Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-05 Thread Chippy
I understand that there are all sorts of duties, etc, which mean that imported goods may be more expensive in the EU. Unfortunately, Logitech have (inadvertently?) presented what appears to be an apples to apples comparison of two products that just doesn't smell right. In the US, the Classic

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-05 Thread Mushroom_3
Chippy;455275 Wrote: Unfortunately, Logitech have (inadvertently?) presented what appears to be an apples to apples comparison of two products that just doesn't smell right. In the US, the Classic and the Touch are the same price. In the UK, the Logitech website lists the Classic at

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-04 Thread Goodsounds
iPhone;454822 Wrote: Good Point. And besides, doesn't the market and the demand still rule prices over on the other side of the pond? I saw someone once who had a sign at their cubicle: My work is so Confidential and Top-Secret, I'm not permitted to understand or know what I'm doing. In that

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-04 Thread Sike
Siduhe;454671 Wrote: And not just when bringing products in. Doing what you need to comply with directives like WEEE (and to a lesser extent) ROHS for end of life stuff adds potentially significant costs to selling electronic components in Europe. I think you will find that even the

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-04 Thread Sike
iPhone;454653 Wrote: Are you somehow thinking Logitech is making a higher profit in Europe? Not with all the crap that the EU requires to do business there. Also just getting units from China to the EU costs more then to the West coast. Then there is the duty on Electronics that are brought

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-04 Thread dBerriff
Could it be that the Classic is simply being discounted to get rid of them? I also agree all this regulation is crazy because it doesn't actually achieve much apart from create extra jobs for the Eurocrats. I had to laugh when CE stickers started appearing on Fender guitars where the design has

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-04 Thread funkstar
dBerriff;454932 Wrote: Could it be that the Classic is simply being discounted to get rid of them? The Classic is being discontinued because the Touch replaces it. The hardware that stood at the center of the Squeezebox line for so many years has reached the end of the road. And although it is

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-04 Thread Mars Warrior
Sike;454441 Wrote: Yet again, Logitech proves that they don't need to price these things globaly. The Squeezebox Classic is USD 300.- and the Touch is also USD 300.- Over here in Switzerland the classic is CHF 349.- which is USD 239.- (All hunky dory here) The Touch however is CHF

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread FredFredrickson
I'm sure there are different regulations and licenses they must obtain for different countries. -- FredFredrickson FredFredrickson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16584 View this thread:

Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread Sike
Yet again, Logitech proves that they don't need to price these things globaly. The Squeezebox Classic is USD 300.- and the Touch is also USD 300.- Over here in Switzerland the classic is CHF 349.- which is USD 239.- (All hunky dory here) The Touch however is CHF 449.- which is USD 423.- I

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread Mnyb
Patience patience, I will get myself a Touch eventually. But Eu pricing is a fun game. SB3 ok price it was slimdevices then and I ordered from US . Duet (reciever and controller ) horrible Swedish pricing, ordered from ripcaster in UK to much better price. I think the Swedish price have

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread Sike
FredFredrickson;454443 Wrote: I'm sure there are different regulations and licenses they must obtain for different countries. I am pretty sure that is not the case. What licenced technology would be in the Touch that is not in the Classis. Surley the IP is owned globaly. -- Sike

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread Sike
Mnyb;454452 Wrote: Patience patience, I will get myself a Touch eventually. But Eu pricing is a fun game. SB3 ok price it was slimdevices then and I ordered from US . The good ol days. We used to order 10 at a time form the US and share them up between friends... Wait till it hits

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread funkstar
Sike;454456 Wrote: I am pretty sure that is not the case. What licenced technology would be in the Touch that is not in the Classis. Surley the IP is owned globaly. IP is a complex thing. Just look at the availability differences of online services between regions. And there is a lot of

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread FredFredrickson
funkstar;454466 Wrote: IP is a complex thing. Just look at the availability differences of online services between regions. And there is a lot of technology in the Touch that isn't in the Classic, it is a completely different beast. MP3 Decoders are licensed. -- FredFredrickson

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread bpa
FAAD decoder for native AAC decoding. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67398

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread sbb
FredFredrickson;454505 Wrote: MP3 Decoders are licensed. probably, but it's a bad explanation! It's not like music where you need to pay rights in each country! And anyway Licencing fees per unit are probably not very expensive... and will never justify to convert 299 dollars in 299 euros.

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread iPhone
sbb;454640 Wrote: probably, but it's a bad explanation! It's not like music where you need to pay rights in each country! And anyway Licencing fees per unit are probably not very expensive... and will never justify to convert 299 dollars in 299 euros. They'are just making a higher

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread Siduhe
iPhone;454653 Wrote: Costs are just higher in Europe when bringing a product in. I would be surprised if the margin wasn't actually lower on units sold in the EU even with the higher price related to direct currency exchange prices. And not just when bringing products in. Doing what you

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread Goodsounds
Most of these comments seem like SWAGs to me, way off the mark. 20+ years ago when I lived in Europe, cars were MUCH more expensive in the UK than on the continent. The excuse usually given was that it was caused by the cost/trouble of producing right-hand drive models. EXCEPT, those same

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread qirex
Don't forget most of Europe has a 15-20% GST/VAT on everything and prices are listed including taxes unlike in the US. -- qirex qirex's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1536 View this thread:

Re: Pricing (Yet again) EU and/or Swiss getting sc*+*�

2009-09-03 Thread iPhone
mherger;454815 Wrote: Don't forget most of Europe has a 15-20% GST/VAT on everything and prices are listed including taxes unlike in the US. Not in Switzerland. And still... I can't speak for any pricing policy (neither ours nor others). But when I see climbing ropes manufactured