Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-14 Thread Jack Coates
On 7/14/06, Steven Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wunder Wrote: SlimServer needs an interface which does: I'm not advocating getting rid of the freewheeling plug-in crazy slimdevice universe, just add a simplified all-in-one software package for non-techies.This was the main point that I

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-14 Thread kdf
Quoting Zten [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like we need to ream the Slim guys for making the forum work poorly. Oh well, the SqueezeBox ROCKS even if the forum has its pitfalls! ;o) no one needs to be reamed. Unless, of course, they are into that. the forum does a very good job of mixing two

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread kdf
Quoting wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bflatmajor Wrote: I agree, but their current potential market is about 5% of the population. wow. That's pretty good. 5% of 6,355,543,400 is over 317 million units, and that doesn't even begin to cover those who might want more than one. That's

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
I think the album art is a minor point anyway. I agree with his general point -- a bundled package would expand the market for the SB while not removing any of the features/benefits we currently enjoy. Unless one of the features we enjoy is being members of an exclusive club? On 7/12/06, Victor

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
Was this hostility really warranted? Or did I misread the tone of your message? I think the guy is trying to make a helpful suggestion.On 7/12/06, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bflatmajor Wrote: I agree, but their current potential market is about 5% of the

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Jack Coates
On 7/12/06, Mitch Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the album art is a minor point anyway. I agree with his general point -- a bundled package would expand the market for the SB while not removing any of the features/benefits we currently enjoy. Unless one of the features we enjoy is being

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread kdf
Quoting Mitch Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Was this hostility really warranted? Or did I misread the tone of your message? it wasn't hostile. I 'think' that was obvious. bogus marketing figures are meaningless. I'm personally never sure if I trust 'real' marketing figures. -kdf

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
I am thankful for the people who have put their time into the product, but I don't think the reaction was warranted. This guy raised a valid concern, and is hardly the first to have done so. I guess you could be angry he hadn't searched the archives and realized this, but I don't see how such

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
The guy was just making a point -- I don't think he was attempting to be mathematically precise. I think it is generally accepted that the number of non-computer technical people is significantly larger than the number of technical people. I'm pretty sure that was all he was trying to say. I

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
Yes. No more suggestions from anyone unless they already have a design document, a feasibility study, appropriate independently conducted marketing research, and apparently a flameproof coat. On 7/12/06, Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wunder Wrote: Wherever all the other players get theirs

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread kdf
Quoting Mitch Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I apologize for using the word hostility. I think the original poster described it better as sarcastic and negative. In any case, not the sort of response I'd hope to get if I made a suggestion to improve a product that I love. right. I'm sure you

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
I did not feel at all that he implied the Slim guys have their heads up their ass. I guess this is why people misinterpret e-mail frequently. My reading of his message was just the observations of a new user to the product, with suggestions for improvement. I thought (and still think) that the

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Marc Sherman
wunder wrote: I didn't realize that ideas/suggestions on this forum would be met with dripping sarcasm and negativity. I'll take my 20+ years of business experience elsewhere now. Have a nice day. Don't let the door hit you in the acumen on the way out. - Marc

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread kdf
Quoting Mitch Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. No more suggestions from anyone unless they already have a design document, a feasibility study, appropriate independently conducted marketing research, and apparently a flameproof coat. I'll drink to that! try writing code without full

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
I think there is a difference between people making suggestions and people hovering over you while you work. I create and support a lot of software tools in my current job. I value suggestions, even ones which are clearly unrealistic or not thought out, because it shows me how users view the tools

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Pat Farrell
wunder wrote: I didn't intend to cause a heated debate with this- I thought I would share my initial impressions and suggestions since I noticed the Slim Devices employees frequent this forum. I think this product has very large potential but right now it's missing a big component. Sure could

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread kdf
Quoting Mitch Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I value suggestions, even ones which are clearly unrealistic or not thought out, because it shows me how users view the tools I've written. It helps me improve them, even if I don't follow all of the suggestions or even most of them. and most of your

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Joe Craig
wow... its funny, there's two sides to this issue, and both are legit, in some ways... but neither can see the other. At last, a breath of sanity! -- Joe ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox is great- for bitheads

2006-07-12 Thread Mitch Harding
To me the other possible target audience is someone who has a very large CD collection. The main reason I began ripping my music in the first place was the inconvenience of having to deal with shuffling CDs. Since I am computer savvy, ripping was the obvious solution for me, and then later I found