Re: [slim] Roon: 60 days free + first findings

2017-12-19 Thread Apesbrain

slartibartfast wrote: 
> As I understand it using Album Gain was preferred even when playing a
> mix of tracks. Using Smart Gain would use Track Gain.

-"This proposal was tested against track normalization in a shuffled
playlist
of 24 songs with 38 subjects. It turned out that 80% of the subjects
preferred album normalization, even though the tracks were selected
for an extreme difference in loudness, of up to 10 LU."-

Ok, I guess it's a personal preference thing.



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Re: [slim] Say Goodbye to iPeng Classic (for iPhone)

2017-12-19 Thread FredFredrickson

Man that stinks. This is precisely why I avoid apple like the plague.
God forbid you try to use an older device and want to install apps, the
app store makes sure you're in the dark.

I reinstalled Mac OS X for a friend of mine on an older Macbook Pro. He
wanted to redownload the updates and get garage band re-installed. Only
problem is that the version on the App Store is only available for a
newer OS X, and this laptop isn't compatible.

Why remove old versions?

Planned obsolescence.



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Re: [slim] Roon: 60 days free + first findings

2017-12-19 Thread slartibartfast

Apesbrain wrote: 
> Somewhat incidental, but I don't get this.  All "Smart Gain" does is
> make LMS use Album Gain if playing an album and Track Gain if playing a
> mix of tracks.  How is that article suggesting anything different?As I 
> understand it using Album Gain was preferred even when playing a
mix of tracks. Using Smart Gain would use Track Gain.

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Re: [slim] Roon: 60 days free + first findings

2017-12-19 Thread garym

Apesbrain wrote: 
> Somewhat incidental, but I don't get this.  All "Smart Gain" does is
> make LMS use Album Gain if playing an album and Track Gain if playing a
> mix of tracks.  How is that article suggesting anything different?

exactly!  That's why I really like SmartGain.



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Re: [slim] Roon: 60 days free + first findings

2017-12-19 Thread Apesbrain

bakker_be wrote: 
> My LMS volume levelling has recently been changed from Smart Gain to
> Album Gain, following the reccomendations in
> https://octo.hku.nl/octo/repository/getfile?id=qLlZPGSVXFM...
Somewhat incidental, but I don't get this.  All "Smart Gain" does is
make LMS use Album Gain if playing an album and Track Gain if playing a
mix of tracks.  How is that article suggesting anything different?



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Re: [slim] Roon: 60 days free + first findings

2017-12-19 Thread garym

bakker_be wrote: 
> In Roon they're called zones, but it's similar.
> No, Roon doesn't change anything on your players. It impersonates an
> LMS.
> You'll need quite some diskspace for the DB and stuff (mine takes ±6GB
> for 120k tracks), but apart from that I see no issues.

your 6GB must include your actual storage for the 120k tracks.   the
Roon database files are fairly small.  There is a setting in Roon to
tell it to work with Squeezeboxes, including squeezelite installs.   In
my use of roon, I'm using a separate  cheap "roonready" endpoint made
from a rasberry pi with the roon "RAAT" firmware installed.  I still use
LMS and squeezeboxes 99% of the time. But roon is a nice experience with
how it displays and integrates information on one's collection.  And it
is mostly agnostic on what types of players it can stream to
(squeezeboxes, sonos, roonRAAT, etc.) while doing separate room or
synchronized, gapless, play almost any codec, etc.Warning:  I don't
think it will play CUE files or Windows Media Lossless.



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Re: [slim] New Qobuz streaming service: Qobuz Sublime +

2017-12-19 Thread davidovada

didjean wrote: 
> Got again some heavy rebuffering with Qobuz BUT it seems that it's
> occuring only on my Booms. Just tired the same feed on different Radio
> or Touch and it seems ok...I need to further test... Is the boom caching
> different? Is it handling differently a stream than any other player?

I'm still experiencing a lot of re-buffering on Transporter. The Qobuz
desktop app is working perfectly. Therefore it has to be :
1. problem with Transporter
or
2. problem with wi-fi

Unfortunately, I've had no luck connecting Transporter via ethernet. I
cannot get it to connect(an old problem).



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Re: [slim] Roon: 60 days free + first findings

2017-12-19 Thread bakker_be

jimzak wrote: 
> Quick questions:
> 
> How does Roon play with Squeezebox hardware?  Do you pick the player
> from the interface just like in SS?
> 
> If i'm using Raspberry Pi players with LCD screens, will they have the
> Roon interface too?
> 
> Thanks for answering these basic questions.
> 
> PS My music collection is large at 400k files.  Can Roon handle that?

In Roon they're called zones, but it's similar.
No, Roon doesn't change anything on your players. It impersonates an
LMS.
You'll need quite some diskspace for the DB and stuff (mine takes ±6GB
for 120k tracks), but apart from that I see no issues.



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