But the tarket market of the Squeezebox is for people who appreciate
good quality music. If colour is the guiding principle for your buying
decision and outways the sound then why are you spending so much money?
Plenty of other products on the market are much cheaper versions (cos
they only play
sd2100;243989 Wrote:
I'm very sorry :-( but Mike your answer is the typical engineers answer.
And that is not *god* enough.
I don't think he ever claimed to be a deity.
If the buying process is cancelled after a quick view at the black box
it doesn't matter how good it performs sonically
haunyack;243975 Wrote:
So what!
Play the music and shut the f**k up (my bad bro)...not pc but wtf.
Or do what I do - go in the bathroom and turn on the shower, faucets,
block the door, flush the (toilet,boudoir) and scream at the top of
your lungs...(don't spill the pint) until it
Please help ... I can't be the only person in the world having this
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y360;243733 Wrote:
And that's just why it might not fly with general public. Non-technical
folks need outside help to set it up and maintain it.
I agree - I suspect SB is a product just too clever for the high
street. Try describing what it does beyond stream music to someone who
only owns an
seanadams;243980 Wrote:
Indeed, the software deliberately avoids modifying any music files at
all on your disk, and this has been a conscious design principle since
version 1.0.One that should receive more praise. So get some from me: that's
a wise
decision! :D
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http://research.eeye.com/html/advisories/published/AD20071115.html
I caught the above on /. I don't download flac so I can rest
easy...but I wonder if the SB/Transporter use the vulnerable library.
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cliveb;244020 Wrote:
Perhaps the SB3 is in danger of attempting to address two markets and
missing out on both.
Exactly!
It is to beautyful designed to be taken serious and to boring (all
black) to be lifestile.
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Fifer;243994 Wrote:
I'm far from convinced that the lack of colour choices is a factor here.
How many home audio components offer anything other than a very limited
(or no) choice of colours?
As a lifestyle product, maybe sd2100 has a point. But I don't regard
myself as having the aesthetic
cliveb;244020 Wrote:
As a serious audio component, the packaging just isn't right. The
current cute styling makes it *look* like a lifestyle product, and a
lot of people who are serious about sound quality will dismiss it for
that reason. *If it were packaged in a more traditional 19 box it
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Fifer;244023 Wrote:
Isn't it even more bizarre for people who are serious about audio to
dismiss something on aesthetic considerations? Don't serious audio
enthuisiasts make decisions based on sound quality rather than
appearance? Why would a manufacturer restrict the versatility of
Procedure:
1. I generate 1KHz sinus -90db test signal with wavosaur 1.0.0.9000.
File: sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav
Format 24-bit mono wav
Playing with SQ3: OK
2. I encode sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav to mp3 with lame 3.97
command: lame --preset insane sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav
Fifer;244023 Wrote:
Isn't it even more bizarre for people who are serious about audio to
dismiss something on aesthetic considerations? Don't serious audio
enthuisiasts make decisions based on sound quality rather than
appearance?
In principle, yes. But the world is full of cute lifestyle
cliveb;244031 Wrote:
Therefore, when one is faced with something that looks like a lifestyle
product, the psychological instinct is to start with an assumption that
it's probably mainly form and not much function. It's just not possible
to thoroughly research every option, so a lot of people
iPhone;243888 Wrote:
Only real issue I see with this route is that the technology and drives
are getting cheaper all the time and people are going to say, Why do I
need another computer, I already have one. Then there is the cost, it
pushes it above the Sonos.
But surely such people do have
morris_minor wrote:
Us folks who've embraced the SB3 know what a quality device it is. But
if you aren't too computer savvy, setting it up may be a problem. I
wonder how many SB3s will be returned by customers who haven't
persevered (or just couldn't be bothered) to get in running. It's not
gregious wrote:
This started happening to me today as well. And it's happening with
playlists I actually created using slimserver that I've had for months.
All my playlists are empty. Hello slimsupport? Issue with the new
version?
This isn't slimsupport. This is slimusercommunity. You need to
gdg wrote:
Now I can't even delete a playlist.
This is just bull. What is the problem with this company? Slimserver
started as a barely functional way to organize one's music and it's
getting worse every time a new version comes out. How is it possible
that one can't delete and artist or
Had I made vulnerability plural in my search prior to posting I would've
found it...
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I believe there's immense interest in SB2s due to their form factor.
When I was looking to sell either my SB2 or my SB3 due to the arrival
of my Transporter, there was more interest in my SB2 than my SB3.
(Ended up keeping the SB2 though.)
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And the Harmony ones (as well as some others) can download configs. I've
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Well, to put it mildly, while I appreciate it from an aesthetic point of
view, I believe SB3 form factor is really unadequate for most
installations.
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How are you getting on with that?
I have a spare drive which I might install on IDE and use that for
Slimserver music.
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I have the same issue, I have 3 SATA drives connected to an NForce4
motherboard running RAID 5. Right now I'm using SlimServer on another
server that isn't using a SATA drive to get around this issue.
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Mario,
Did you install SC system wide (for all users) or for you only? It looks
as if couldn't find it's configuration file. Please try installing it for
all users
Could you please uninstall it, remove anything SC/SS related and try
again? I updated to the latest nightly on Leopard without
Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure
DRM becomes a more pressing issue.
I hope that adding a DRM to the firmware is feasible with the current
hardware. I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember a forum thread
where it was claimed that firmware size is reaching
Marc Sherman;244048 Wrote:
morris_minor wrote:
Us folks who've embraced the SB3 know what a quality device it is.
But
if you aren't too computer savvy, setting it up may be a problem. I
wonder how many SB3s will be returned by customers who haven't
persevered (or just couldn't be
While I don't have any interest in PlaysForSure (sic) myself, I also
wonder about the future of Squeezebox firmwares, when I've heard the
same thing about getting a little tight on room.
Here's my thought and I'd love to hear feedback from a SlimDevices
person. I assume a lot of the room in the
I installed the SC system for all users. I will get back to you this
evening. Thank you!
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Hi all,
SB3, latest version. I have two units, a Slim and a Logitech.
Is it possible to add an ARTIST as a favourite? I've pressed the
Favourites button whilst navigating to Browse Artists
MyFavouriteArtist and I get the prompt to say that it has been added.
Great.
BUT...
How I envisaged it
y360;244056 Wrote:
Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure
DRM becomes a more pressing issue.
I hope that adding a DRM to the firmware is feasible with the current
hardware. I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember a forum thread
where it was claimed that
Very impressive, thanks for the info.
bLanark
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y360;244056 Wrote:
Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure
DRM becomes a more pressing issue.
I hope that adding a DRM to the firmware is feasible with the current
hardware. I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember a forum thread
where it was claimed that
Greetings all,
I've got 3 SB2 (2 wired, one wireless). I'd like to be able to
detect if they are powered on from another PC (linux box). Is there a
socket connection that can be made to determine that? Ping always
reports a reply from these always-on devices. Could there be a socket
On Nov 20, 2007 9:26 AM, y360
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Now that Sonos announced Napster integration, supporting MS PlaysForSure
DRM becomes a more pressing issue.
I really hope Logitech doesn't spend any time on PlaysForSure -- MS
themselves don't even support it on their flagship media player
In your SlimServer/SqueezeCenter web UI, look in Help-Technical
Information-Command Line Interface. You'll find all that and more.
For sending the commands you work through a telnet connection or use
something like netcat (nc) to do each as a standalone command.
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mortslim;244106 Wrote:
However to clarify what I have been told, even when no music is flowing
but the speakers are on, you are consuming a lot of electricity.
Kind of painting with a wide brush there...it depends on the
amplifier.
If it's a class D, it's 80% - 95% efficient. And that's
jasontemple wrote:
Greetings all,
I've got 3 SB2 (2 wired, one wireless). I'd like to be able to
detect if they are powered on from another PC (linux box). Is there a
socket connection that can be made to determine that?
The HTML interface on the SlimServer will show you how many devices
Hello all, I've seen a couple threads on similar topics, but there are
so many variables, I thought I would seek some help.
I have just installed a second SB3. The first one was working just
fine. Its location is on the other side of a thick wall from the
router.
Now the original SB3 is
gdg,
Maybe you should apologize to the very nice folks here. You and a few
others are the ones that make this forum unbearable to read at times.
Also as a Senior Member of these forums you should know better than
to be so rude.
I have only had my Squeezebox for 3 months and even I know that
kdf;244113 Wrote:
In your SlimServer/SqueezeCenter web UI, look in Help-Technical
Information-Command Line Interface. You'll find all that and more.
For sending the commands you work through a telnet connection or use
something like netcat (nc) to do each as a standalone command.
-kdf
In case anyone is curious, it's quite straightforward.
nc localhost 9090
status
00%3A04%3A20%3A05%3A7b%3A6c status exit player_name%3A192.168.1.102
player_connected%3A1 power%3A0 signalstrength%3A0
and you can read power 0 for off and power 1 for on. very easy.
The plan is to use a fit-pc
less technical description of problem:
There is a mp3 with very very low volume.
When playing this mp3 directly with squuezebox there is a loud strange
noise (loud means louder then signal, not absolutely).
When first decoding this mp3 on PC to wav and then playing that wav on
squuezebox sound
Where is your gzip program? [/usr/bin/gzip]
Where is your tar program? [/usr/bin/tar]
Where is your unzip program? [/usr/bin/unzip]
Warning: make not found in PATH
Where is your make program? []
Warning: lynx not found in PATH
Where is your lynx program? []
Warning: wget not found in PATH
sikahr wrote:
less technical description of problem:
There is a mp3 with very very low volume.
When playing this mp3 directly with squuezebox there is a loud strange
noise (loud means louder then signal, not absolutely).
When first decoding this mp3 on PC to wav and then playing that wav
Maybe, but i don't believe. I generate file with lame, no errors, on PC
decoding is without problem, only one problem is decoding on squeeze.
Additionally, I can generate similar file (I tried sinus 1kHz -100 db),
problems haven't gone away.
Regards, Nenad
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On Nov 20, 2007 2:12 PM, sikahr
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My conclusion: inbuilt mp3 decoder is in a way broken.
It sounds to me like you've done a fair amount of analysis -- nice
work. I think you should file a bug with all the appropriate attached
data at bugs.slimdevices.com. If it's a
-why- is this a problem though?
Sure it is a bug, but why were you testing for it? To me, it sounds a
little like the Excel bug that appeared a few months back, here some
forumulas resulting in 65,535 would appear as 100,000.
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/09/26b.html
Yes it is a
Please try to listen, you will get clearer picture this way.
sin 1KHz -80 db also have artifacts.
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There is a network test plugin you can use to verify things are working.
You should be able to do 2000Kbps at 100% with 11g.
If you unplug the new one, does the old one return to working?
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A. Lame
command: lame --decode sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav.lame.mp3 sinus 1kHz
-90dB.wav.lame.mp3.lame16.wav
resulting File: sinus 1kHz -90dB.wav.lame.mp3.lame16.wav
Format 16-bit mono wav
Playing with SQ3: Distorted 1Khz (no dithering), OK for decoder without
24 to 16 bit dithering
If I
Ben Sandee;244154 Wrote:
It sounds to me like you've done a fair amount of analysis -- nice
work. I think you should file a bug with all the appropriate attached
data at bugs.slimdevices.com. If it's a decoder problem in the
firmware then only a Logitech employee can really contribute,
Hi,
Here is the odd behavior that my SB3 displays:
While the SB is running but not streaming music, and the date/time
screensaver is displayed, the display switches to the volume control
for a couple seconds and then the display switches back to date/time.
This occurs at seemingly random
I don't see an obvious problem with the test methodology, and it does
look interesting to me. Even if lame is causing problems (I'm not sure
what the difference between Distorted 1Khz (no dithering) and Clean
1Khz with dithering noise is) - it's clear from the test that MAD on
the PC is producing
snarlydwarf;244185 Wrote:
If I understand that right, it is the following:
1) 1Khz sine wave at -90db.
2) Converted with lame to an mp3.
3) Decoded with lame back to a wav.
Played and it had distortion on the SB3, but not on your PC.
That points to a flaw in your methodology and
Is this a JVC TV?
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On Nov 20, 2007 4:20 PM, sikahr
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I already contacted slimdevices support.
Unless they filed a bug *for* you, go ahead and file a bug. I don't
understand why everyone is jumping all over you honestly -- bug
reports like this with detailed reproductions and calm, collected
snarlydwarf;244195 Wrote:
Is this a JVC TV?
No it isn't.
Do you have a serious reason for asking, or it that a joke that I don't
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In the ancient past, there was no real remote: the SliMP3 was pretty
much a garage project and spending money on a custom remote would have
been silly.
So Sean and Co cheated: they had the original devices use JVC DVD
remote codes and included a universal remote for the remote.
These codes are
How are you trying to delete the playlist? From the web interface?
Which skin?
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Ben Sandee;244199 Wrote:
I don't
understand why everyone is jumping all over you honestly -- bug
reports like this with detailed reproductions and calm, collected
reasoning are very rare.
I don't think anyone is jumping all over him.
I just doubt the methodology or the wording is
Actually, I am using a universal remote most of the time to control the
SB. None of the components controlled by this remote are JVC.
I can tell you that this behavior occurs when no buttons are being
pushed. I see this happen when I am the only person in the house, and
all I'm doing is sitting
I did a clean install. I choose for all users. Same problem,,,
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seanadams;243980 Wrote:
Sorry to hear about your frustration, but the fact is that SlimServer
has never been intended to organize your music. Indeed, the software
deliberately avoids modifying any music files at all on your disk, and
this has been a conscious design principle since version
This is certainly a thread illustrating how not to get help :)
In some forums I have participated in, the original poster would have
been roasted alive. Folks on these forums are pretty mellow, all in
all.
I view slimserver as a work in progress (as all software is) It is not
perfect but it
People,
I certainly have become frustrated myself at times with running
Slimserver, but this forum has been fantastic. It is not like other
forums, and it is important to treat everyone else you meet here as if
they are someone that you would like to invite over to sit on your
couch and listen
Ron F.;244248 Wrote:
People,
Frustration is understandable, but the use of bad language is really
bad form here.
-Ron
So...hide your eyes.
Shit happens.
So, I said some shit that I should not have.
Kinda shitty of me to contribute to the lower vibration of this
thread.
I deleted my shit,
morris_minor;244058 Wrote:
Well, yes - if all you want is a World Band radio . . . and assuming
our non-techy user even knows what a router is . . and can then set it
up . . then it does Just Work :o)
Actually, it is already far more than a world-band radio. It connects
you to music
Everybody's a self-proclaimed moderator.
No this, no that.
Sterile, safe, boring.
Jeez.
.
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SB3 (RWA analog) - Rotel RB1070 - BW Matrix 805. (Bedroom)
Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote -
Ooh...the forum police...
Run!
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SB3 (RWA analog) - Rotel RB1070 - BW Matrix 805. (Bedroom)
Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated
neighbors.
First thought, slightly long shot - is your slimserver externally
visible on the internet?
Second thought, slightly more likely - plugins? Try disabling all
plugins and see if the behaviour changes. If it does change, turn
d_plugins on in debugging settings and see what shows up in the log.
Sean, thank you for your answer. I will try stereo tonight and report
results here.
regards, Nenad
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Ben, thank you for support
Nenad
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