Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
Mice are for everybody, SBs are not, they are too complex for most individuals. Actually, my first attempt to build a SBS was aimed to learn Linux playing around during the holidays in 2006. Thanks to SB, I have now a window$ free home and office! Also, hi-fi is for some people, video is for everybody. Just look at how many (real) hifi dealers are still in business in the last 20 years. My aim with SB, was finding a bridge between my quality hifi system, and internet radio and music library. I listen more to radio than to my own library, but don't even know what SB.com is all about, I am pretty happy listening to national broadcasts from all over the world. That said, I don't think that Logitech is the best company to manage a niche business. I hope the original Slim Devices founder will get it back.. -Gian -- gian --- town: Musical Fidelity Dr. Thomas, Preamp II, Infinity 7K, Squeezebox Classic (2), Squeezebox Radio, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS server country: Musical Fildelity A-5, Infinity Renaissance 90, Squeezebox Classic (2), SB Touch, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS server gian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Presets and Trackstat
MeSue;674227 Wrote: How are you pressing 1-6 now if you don't have the Radio yet? Not yet! - but looking at instructions it seemed like it might fall into the same hole as presets on the older SB and Slim players. Hopefully not based on Erland's post. Erland;674229 Wrote: On Classic/Boom/Transporter, it's possible to override the action by defining a custom.map file that describes which actions you like to connect to different buttons. Erland - thank you, your post is most helpful - can you point me in direction of how to do this (documentation / guide?) and comment if it is relatively easy (i.e. my programming skills are pre-historic but should be able to manage simple text/cmd editing). It looks like a preferred approach since I can even be selective (hopefully) in which players this is done for. Perhaps I could be cheeky and request a future trackstat option to not over-ride the button behaviour of slected players? My personal interface is Ipeng now, so I'd be more likely to use that than the button updates anyway. -- yeomanspc yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92017 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
I hear many people (on this forum but also on other discussion forums) that the big disadvantage of Squeezebox is the requirement to have a (local) server. I believe that many people are missing the fact that every streaming system needs a server. But people only complain about that when looking at Squeezebox. Most Hifi players need a DLNA server and even Sonos needs a server. With Sonos this server functionality is done by one of the players. Since their server is running on a low powered platform (just like TineSC in the Touch), it has some limitations. I'm not familiar with AirPlay but I'm pretty sure that system will need an iTunes server somewhere. I believe that the SBS / LMS server requirement is an advantage over the other systems. The Squeezebox protocol is more robusthank it is really designed for streaming systems. It also adds a ton of positive things when it comes to user experience. I have looked at other streaming alternatives. I have even used a Sonos player a few months back. Up until today I haven't found a good alternative for Squeezebox. Logitech still has the advantage but too bad they don't realize it yet. For Squeezebox to become more popular it will need a company that puts high priority on this product line. Add more players and address the market to achieve more visibility. Unfortunately, a company that makes mice and keyboards is not the right company for the Squeezebox product. -- Pascal Hibon 2 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom and 1 x SB Radio - all wireless ReadyNAS NVX running SBS iPeng on iPod Touch. SqueezePad on iPad. Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
gian;674247 Wrote: Mice are for everybody, SBs are not, they are too complex for most individuals. Actually, my first attempt to build a SBS was aimed to learn Linux playing around during the holidays in 2006. Thanks to SB, I have now a window$ free home and office! Also, hi-fi is for some people, video is for everybody. Just look at how many (real) hifi dealers are still in business in the last 20 years. My aim with SB, was finding a bridge between my quality hifi system, and internet radio and music library. I listen more to radio than to my own library, but don't even know what SB.com is all about, I am pretty happy listening to national broadcasts from all over the world. That said, I don't think that Logitech is the best company to manage a niche business. I hope the original Slim Devices founder will get it back.. -Gian A good point . very similar to my own experience . However the online experience can be for everyone and that sells squeezeboxes and it not to hard. Here we have *sometimes unreliable mysqueezebox.com servers (have improved greatly ,but I migth eat my words xmas is soon here then everyone wants to listen online ). If logitech is on top of these issues it would be great. * Your wifi, if it sucks it sucks what can logitech ever do about that ? seriously ? To run your local file collection it takes some actual music interest (not casual background listening ) and posibly also some rudimentary sense of soundquality to muster the energy to make it go :) The ripping managing and -proper tagging and artwork- is the real work . A couple of hours now and then to whack the admittedly to buggy server in to shape pales compared to the time spent with your files . I understand why folks go for online services only if lacking the kind of music hobby interest some of us got bitten with . Most people I know would just run a wire from the PC and listen to spotify -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
I am curious if there is any hope to wait for a new version SqueezeCommander that will be able to show lyrics, wiki information etc. when I am running SB Touch as a server (USB hard disc connected to SB Touch). Thank you -- vma vma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
Pascal, Mnyb, gian, ALL excellent points. Pascal Hibon;674253 Wrote: . I believe that many people are missing the fact that every streaming system needs a server. But people only complain about that when looking at Squeezebox. Very true. Even the devices with built in internet radio and/or services use a server. Like the networking AVR's which typically use Reciva or vTuner in the background. If no local server and vTuner is down then my AVR cannot stream anything from the internet. The difference is that most people either don't know there is a server at work or they don't need to care about it because these servers are very reliable and very simplistic in features and usage. This is where LMS and MySB struggle because they are far more complex, far more customizable, offer many more services and features, updated often (to both add features and fix issues), etc... Which in turn seems to make them far less reliable for the average user. That said, I've had very few issues with either LMS or MySB, but obviously not everyone can say that. :( -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox receiver cutting out..very frustrated..
Goodsounds;674203 Wrote: My suggestion, first try the one easiest thing to check. Which would actually be what the OP has not answered yet: Is the server computer wired or WiFi? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91998 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] iTunes playlist can't be found on my QNAP nas
Hi all, I bought the squeezebox reciever last week. It took me a while to get it up and running. I finally used my friends remote of his duet and then it was working really quick. But now it all works exept the playlists i use in iTunes. What do i have/use? - QNAP 239P nas system - SBS 7.6.1 - iPad with Squeezepad - iPhone with iPeng All my music files is stored on the QMultimedia share in a iTunes folder. I can see the folders with artists names in this folder. I can see al my music in Squeezepad and iPeng, so no problem there! At least i think... I guess there must be something wrong with the export/import of the playlist. But i have no idea where to look to solve this annoying problem. Any help is more than welcome!! Regards, Don -- NasDonkey NasDonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51933 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92022 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox receiver cutting out..very frustrated..
jasongilliland;674218 Wrote: it seems to change signal strength frequently. One minute it will say 32% and the next it will say 2%. Why would the signal strength fluctuate? That kind of signal fluctuation indicates a serious signal issue. With such signal issues I'd question whether or not you are even connecting to YOUR WiFi, might be accessing a neighbors WiFi. Is your server computer wired? Haphazardly picking different ch's may make things worse. Only start changing ch's AFTER you have correctly diagnosed what other WiFi signals are around you, and only choose (decide on) ch's 1 or 6 or 11. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91998 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Endless update message
bozer;674194 Wrote: This is driving me insane. Every day it needs to update. Every day I update it. Then its back over and over again. ARGGG The two most likely causes of such frequent updates: 1. running Beta server which will update every day (FIX: turn off updates or don't use Beta) 2. switching player(s) to both local LMS and MySB.com and your LMS is a different version than is MySB.com (FIX: don't switch between them, just use your local server) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91927 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Any updates on the app? I've been using it. It's not bad, but one thing I noticed is that song listings on the Playlist can't be managed - I can't select a song on the list to either delete it or move it up the list. Seems touching the song title instantly plays it. The old Nokia interface allowed for this kind of control. Possible? -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
vma;674259 Wrote: I am curious if there is any hope to wait for a new version SqueezeCommander that will be able to show lyrics, wiki information etc. when I am running SB Touch as a server (USB hard disc connected to SB Touch). Thank you As plugins do not work on the Touch, this will only work using a web lookup at wikipedia, google and others. Actually, this web lookup feature is on my TODO list, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to implement it. (Ticket #229) -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox receiver cutting out..very frustrated..
The computer server is wired and the signal the receiver is getting is from my wifi. I have tried 1,6,and 11. -- jasongilliland jasongilliland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91998 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox receiver cutting out..very frustrated..
What is the name (SSID) of your WiFi? Is it a unique name you entered onto the router? Or is it the default name supplied by the router mfr? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91998 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox receiver cutting out..very frustrated..
If you decide to go with power line adapters, the ones from MonoPrice are quite a bit cheaper than others and work great! http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105cp_id=10501 -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 2 Radios | 1 Touch | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Logitech Media Server 7.7.1 | iPod Touch iPad w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) | 'Rhapsody' (http://www.rhapsody.com/members/mesue) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91998 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
Thank you Squeezebox to help me to clear the living room. I get rid of tuner and cd player. My disks are now in shoesboxes in a storage place. I truly enjoy the quality of sound of this device, even from Internet radios. Also, it's far more easy to listen music from Squeezebox Server than a from a CD collection. And, for a classical music lover, the internet radios open a rich world. I listen more music with Squeezebox. I didn't experienced the problems noted with the server updates. Perharps I was lucky. But I am not a power user. I use the server only to listen two or three FM internet radios and to browse my classical music by folders (composers). Finally, I was impressed by the Logitech Service. I bought a SB3 two years ago. After one year, the display disappeared in the middle of the screen. They shipped me a Touch to replace the faulty unit! Now the sound is better and I have a weather Station when the Touch is off. -- boun01 boun01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51276 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
I would like to add that, because it is fitted with a quality DAC, and you can even add an external one, while somewhat inexpensive, the SB leaves the door open to a high-end upgrade. This cannot be an argument for those that are happy to listen to their plain iPods, which are the vast majority. About running a server at home, it can have many scopes: I use it to backup my laptop, store pictures, music, security camera images, stream video to the TV or other networked PCs, FTP, web, and SB server. -- gian --- town: Musical Fidelity Dr. Thomas, Preamp II, Infinity 7K, Squeezebox Classic (2), Squeezebox Radio, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS server country: Musical Fildelity A-5, Infinity Renaissance 90, Squeezebox Classic (2), SB Touch, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS server gian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
Fantastic thread. I wonder how many other products can boast such a thread. For my own part, I still have the feeling that I came to the party a bit late - I think my first SB product was an SB3, probably about 6 years ago, although I do have a couple of earlier models that I THINK I bought off ebay later on, one of which I took apart and built into my DIY pre-amp. I still have the SB3 in regular use, alongside a Touch, a Boom and a couple of Radios. Like most people here, the SB ecosystem reignited my passion for music, and I'm sure this is what led to me building my own pre-amp, power amp and speakers. Without a doubt though, the stand-out feature for me is the ability to have the whole house blasting out the same music in perfect synch. It still makes me smile when my kids tell me to turn my music down. In my day it was the other way round! -- chill chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thank you Slim Devices.
Slim Devices changed my life. I have always been an avid listener, LPs, CDs, radio, and short wave broadcasts. Slim Devices brought short wave listening up to high end stereo. I listen to BBC, France Musique or Radio Orfey from Moscow at CD quality. I have a few SB2, SB3, Radio and Touch. I am very fond of the white SB3 I have with the Slim Device logo. It was a pain to see it go to Logitech, they are too big to manage such a jewel. -- gian --- town: Musical Fidelity Dr. Thomas, Preamp II, Infinity 7K, Squeezebox Classic (2), Squeezebox Radio, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS server country: Musical Fildelity A-5, Infinity Renaissance 90, Squeezebox Classic (2), SB Touch, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS server gian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Thank you for information. -- vma vma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to edit in the wiki
Daniel Barrett has voulenteered to upgrade MediaWiki from the ancient version in use today, to a modern version. Please vote for '\bug\ 17797' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17797) if you'd like the wiki software to be up to date. -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch (sans caps) + duet + boom + radio (portable) / dd-wrt @ linksys wrt54g/160n/320n/e2k/e3k + homeplugs c. / lms 7.7.x on w7(x86) w/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to edit in the wiki
Voted !! what a nice guy , extraordinary :) The wiki is spam infested an inaccurate, needs cleanup like nothing else -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to edit in the wiki
Mnyb;674369 Wrote: The wiki is spam infested an inaccurate, needs cleanup like nothing else And the search is nearly useless. Even if the info is there, it's very difficult to find. Maybe a software update would help that. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Hi, I'd like to see a widgetized version of squeeze player, one that might create a small widget capable of: 1) turning squeeze player on and off 2) adjust volume by slider 3) showing current album artwork 4) supporting any relevant android widget audio controller standards. This would let me configure a screen on my tablet for home audio and have squeeze player share that screen with audio manager, equalizer, and other audio widgets. -- ja2038 ja2038's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40583 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
knoxbrder;674173 Wrote:
Have you considered writing an app that would stream whatever was
playing on the Android device to the Squeezebox network over wifi?
I could almost do it with Bluetooth to a bluetooth device that has line
out and into my server line in. But this would have about a 10s delay
and limited to the short range of bluetooth. I would rather do it over
wifi.
Just thinking how nice it would be to stream synced Audible books all
over the house. The only way I can do it now is to plug the phone into
the line in on the server and just leave it there (still has the 10s
delay but it works today, just can't pause/jump around without walking
back to that device).
Mike
I think your suggestion is brilliant, although I suspect there will
still be that difficult delay.
Another way to do stream now, apart from line-in, that has almost no
advantages over what you suggest, except for allowing streaming of ANY
audio stream, is to use VLC.
I have a cygwin shell script that looks like this on my machine
workstation:
#!/bin/bash
/cygdrive/c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/VideoLAN/VLC/vlc.exe --no-video
--no-sout-video dshow:// :dshow-vdev=none :dshow-adev=Stereo Mix
(Realtek High Defini :dshow-caching=200 --sout
#transcode{vcodec=none,acodec=mp3,ab=128,channels=2,samplerate=44100}:http{dst=:8080/vlcstream.mp3}
:no-sout-rtp-sap :no-sout-standard-sap :ttl=1 :sout-keep
And then on my squeeze server machine I listen in on the url:
http://workstation:8080/vlcstream.mp3
There is still a 10 second delay, but it allows me to stream anything
on that workstation machine around my place.
Regardless, I like your idea.
--
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Re: [slim] Presets buttons on an Android App
In fact, I think I'm looking for something where you don't have to go back and forth constantly in the menus and sub-menus. I just want to stay always on the same interface (don't know if i'm clear, my english is limited) Don't worry, you're very clear about your idea! And it's interesting, as some similar concepts recently have been discussed here... -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
