Re: [slim] KEXP uncompressed
Rupert Dacat wrote: I have: - downloaded mplayer-win32-mingw-dev-svn20061001.exe - placed the above in Program Files/SlimServer/Server, and opened it there - opened the mplayer folder and placed the mplayer application in: Program Files/SlimServer/Server - tried KEXP with both SlimServerWebInterface/Files Types/Windows Media/Windows Media/ Inactive and Native. No music. What have i done wrong? Tx. The convert.conf file has not been changed so LMS will continue to use the LMS supplied utility for WMA transcoding. You need to add a custom-convert.conf file which invokes mplayer to handle WMA. I don't have the right info on hand and there may be an issue with the version of mplayer - some versions of Mingw mplayer did not play well transcoding for LMS. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65541 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
kidstypike wrote: Well if it's resting, I'll wake it up .. ::Wake up Logitech!!!:: Oh no, You stunned them, just as they were waking up. http://orangecow.org/pythonet/pet-shop.html bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
How ironic that we are talking about how Logitech (squeezebox) should be more like Roku when the squeezebox trounced the Roku music streaming device 5 years ago or so. Roku rose from the ashes by revinventing itself. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
maggior wrote: How ironic that we are talking about how Logitech (squeezebox) should be more like Roku when the squeezebox trounced the Roku music streaming device 5 years ago or so. Roku rose from the ashes by revinventing itself. Very true. I remember giving the Roku boxes (particularly 'this one' (http://soundbridge.roku.com/soundbridge/index.php)) a serious look when I was wading into the network music player world seven years ago. If I remember correctly, the Roku having only wifi (b) was the dealkiller for me. I still think I made the right choice. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
aubuti wrote: Very true. I remember giving the Roku boxes (particularly 'this one' (http://soundbridge.roku.com/soundbridge/index.php)) a serious look when I was wading into the network music player world seven years ago. If I remember correctly, the Roku having only wifi (b) was the dealkiller for me. I still think I made the right choice. Yes, the soundbridge. I couldn't remember the name. I had looked into them as a cheap alternative to the squeezebox, which at $300 was pretty steep at the time. The deal breaker for me was that it didn't support gapless playback. It was shortly after I had looked into them that they stopped making them. Like you I think I made the right choice. If I decided to sell one of my SB3's today, I wouldn't get my $300 back, but I'd probably get $150. You probably couldn't give a soundbridge away today. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
mortslim wrote: Here is how Roku works with content developers: An open platform, Rokus Streaming Player enables content owners to bypass traditional distribution routes and reach views and consumers directly. Rokus platform allows a wide variety of channels and monetization options. There is no fee for joining the Roku Developer Program or for publishing a Roku Channel. Roku does not host any content. Your Roku channel connects to your existing service and servers or CDN to locate and stream your content. http://www.roku.com/developer I arranged for the Stitcher podcast service top brass to contact Logitech to host the Stitcher service on the squeezebox platform. Logitech wasnt interested. That was frustrating for me and really crystallized Logitechs problem with squeezebox. Content providers want control of their own hosting service, rather than be captive to Logitechs whims. Just out of interest: - Is Deezer available for Roku ? - Is Spotify available for Roku ? - Is Rhapsody available for Roku ? The problem with the Roku model as far as I understand is that it expects the content provider to do development to support a Roku specific protocol only used by Roku devices. If the content provider doesn't consider Roku to be big enough this will likely result in that you will never get access to their service on a Roku device. As you say, the problem with the Logitech model is that if a content provider want to be on mysqueezebox.com the Logitech model presumes Logitech is willing to do development to support the service. One advantage with the Logitech model is that it kind of support both models, it's just that it needs a plugin and a locally installed SBS/LMS to support a similar model as Roku which means that you need to have a computer powered on to use some services. This is also an advantage if Logitech would stop selling Squeezeboxes, they can still continue to work great for existing and new services using a local LMS installation even without involving Logitech at all. Do you know if Roku have any solution similar to LMS where you can run a local service and add support for services which the content providers doesn't want to offer support for ? To me it kind of feels like the Logitech model might be preferred as long as Logitech is willing to invest the necessary resources and the Roku model is preferred as long as the content provider is willing to invest the necessary resources. However, I can agree that one problem with the Logitech model is that Logitech tends to stop the development when they have enough functionality to advertise the streaming provider, after this the streaming provider might add more functionality but in many cases that functionality doesn't get available on the Squeezebox integration. Such scenario is probably less likely to happen with the Roku model as long as the content provider needs to update the Roku integration to keep existing customers or get new customers. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
kidstypike wrote: Well if it's resting, I'll wake it up .. ::Wake up Logitech!!!:: This is the wrong place to try to wake anyone from Logitech, if you want to reach someone within Logitech you better go to their official support forum at http://forums.logitech.com where there at least are some Logitech employees reading. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
erland wrote: This is the wrong place to try to wake anyone from Logitech, if you want to reach someone within Logitech you better go to their official support forum at http://forums.logitech.com where there at least are some Logitech employees reading. Yes, sorry about that. Post #140 by pallfreeman reminded me of the Parrot Sketch by the Monty Python team, this was taken further by bluegaspode, who obviously saw the connection. It won't happen again. kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
bluegaspode wrote: I'm reluctant, because those little things add up and do clutter the interface. If I'm not convinced that it serves the majority of users I often decide to rather leave it out to keep SqueezePad simple and clean. +1 Excellent app btw, love the one touch play for albums, would like to scroll album cover art ala Sooloos but otherwise very happy. Squeeezeplay works on the Cambridge Audio iD100 dock and displays the album vertically - sample rate limited to 48kHz as a consequence of Apple licensing but I expect that'll change when the new 24/96 matrial hits the istore... Keep up the excellent work! dpaws's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
erland wrote: the Logitech model might be preferred as long as Logitech is willing to invest the necessary resources and the Roku model is preferred as long as the content provider is willing to invest the necessary resources. A review of the forum requests by users for services and updates to services implies that Logitech is not investing resources at the moment. Even the Logitech webpage for Squeezebox is out of date as to the services offered. Content providers will show interest if they see sufficient market penetration for the squeezebox. They do a cost/benefit analysis just like Logitech. If the missing content providers see that they can reach a tipping point for eardrums, they'lll come to the platform. In order for Logitech to be more mass market, it should lower the price, turn up the volume and get rid of the LCD screen to keep the cost down (it's more efficient to put control into the user's hands on already owned multi-purpose devices,like iPeng on the iPad and the iPhone). Logitech already has the hardware for such lower cost products. It just needs to open up its software to make it easy for the content providers to be enticed to the platform. And as to the complaint that the Roku model generates a lot of uninteresting content, the solution to that is simple, don't listen to it. Pick and choose your favorite service providers and ignore the rest. Even on the Squeezebox now, I don't listen to over 90% of what is offered. We should be so lucky to wade through excess content to find what we want. mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
mortslim wrote: And as to the complaint that the Roku model generates a lot of uninteresting content, the solution to that is simple, don't listen to it. Pick and choose your favorite service providers and ignore the rest. Even on the Squeezebox now, I don't listen to over 90% of what is offered. We should be so lucky to wade through excess content to find what we want. Don't want to start a Roku Wars debate, but really there's no comparison between the quality services which are available on Logi and the hotchpotch of religious nutters, prepubescent youths aping around on video clips, clapped-out old video and film services which constitute the major Roku offerings! In any event, the nature of the beasts are very different - Roku serves up video junk, and Logi opens up the amazing world of international radio services. Even the Tunein channel on Roku is crippled because the stupid box can only stream mp3 audio, castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
mortslim wrote: Content providers will show interest if they see sufficient market penetration for the squeezebox. They do a cost/benefit analysis just like Logitech. If the missing content providers see that they can reach a tipping point for eardrums, they'lll come to the platform. Which is also why it's hard to use the Roku philosophy before you have the volume, the content providers basically don't want to invest in making a proprietary solution for a specific product before they are sure they can get enough users on it and the dilemma is that the product won't get more users before the content providers have done their part with the Roku model. But I guess that as a content provider it's a matter of: - Either doing an analysis if you believe the manufacturer (Logitech, Roku, ...) will be able to sell enough devices and make the investment in advance to help them (and yourself) getting more users. - Or just deciding to wait and do the investment later when the manufacturer has sold enough devices to make it interesting. mortslim wrote: In order for Logitech to be more mass market, it should lower the price, turn up the volume and get rid of the LCD screen to keep the cost down (it's more efficient to put control into the user's hands on already owned multi-purpose devices,like iPeng on the iPad and the iPhone). I agree on the Squeezebox Touch if it would significantly lower the price, personally I still doubt that dropping the LCD would bring the Touch below $99 which I think is needed to make it attractive to the mass market who can purchase a AppleTV or AirPort Express for $99. I think the Squeezebox Radio still needs an LCD to be useful in kitchen and bedroom, but I could see use for a cheap device without display and without hard buttons but with a built-in speaker. It wouldn't be as useful as the Squeezebox Radio, but some people might like such device if removing the display and hard buttons can make it a lot cheaper than the Squeezebox Radio. mortslim wrote: Logitech already has the hardware for such lower cost products. It just needs to open up its software to make it easy for the content providers to be enticed to the platform. Just out of interest, which hardware are you talking about, is it the Touch without display or are you referring to some non Squeezebox hardware ? mortslim wrote: And as to the complaint that the Roku model generates a lot of uninteresting content, the solution to that is simple, don't listen to it. Pick and choose your favorite service providers and ignore the rest. Even on the Squeezebox now, I don't listen to over 90% of what is offered. We should be so lucky to wade through excess content to find what we want. Right, I want to listen to Spotify (which is the best premium streaming service available in Sweden), how do I do that on a Roku device out of the box ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
Apple doesn't limit the iPad to 48kHz when you use USB audio, iPad supports 96kHz. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
erland wrote: I want to listen to Spotify (which is the best premium streaming service available in Sweden), how do I do that on a Roku device out of the box ? Roku has an official Plex channel. Plex connects the Roku to a media server. Plex Media Server seamlessly connects your Plex clients with all of your local and online media. The combination of centralized library management, streaming of online content, and powerful transcoding functionality provides an unrivaled level of flexibility and ease of use. Plex Media Server runs on your Mac, PC, or compatible NAS device and serves your media to all of your Plex clients. http://www.plexapp.com/getplex/index.php also: how to stream Spotify to the Roku http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=28t=44695start=0 erland wrote: which hardware are you talking about, is it the Touch without display or are you referring to some non Squeezebox hardware ?? Here are examples of Logitech products that dont have a screen and should be able to adapted to Squeezebox funtionality: Logitech Wireless Speaker Adapter for Bluetooth Audio Devices http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wirel.../dp/B004VM1T5S Logitech Wireless Boombox for iPad, iPhone and iPod touch with Bluetooth http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wirel...h+Bluetooth%22 mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
mortslim wrote: In order for Logitech to be more mass market, it should lower the price, turn up the volume and get rid of the LCD screen to keep the cost down (it's more efficient to put control into the user's hands on already owned multi-purpose devices,like iPeng on the iPad and the iPhone). mortslim wrote: Here are examples of Logitech products that dont have a screen and should be able to adapted to Squeezebox funtionality: Logitech Wireless Speaker Adapter for Bluetooth Audio Devices http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wirel.../dp/B004VM1T5S Logitech Wireless Boombox for iPad, iPhone and iPod touch with Bluetooth http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Boombox-iPhone-touch/dp/B005KQ2O26/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8qid=1345493365sr=8-3-fkmr0keywords=%22Logitech+Wireless+Boombox+for+iPad%2C+iPhone+and+iPod+touch+with+Bluetooth%22 I'm probably missing something, or maybe the other thread about 'Better-Logitech-products-than-the-Squeezeboxes' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95977-Better-Logitech-products-than-the-Squeezeboxes) has come full circle here. By those examples it looks like Logitech has already done what you suggested in the earlier post. The price is low, control is from the assumed-to-be-already-owned mobile device, and judging by the 4.5 star Amazon reviews the mass market loves them. The content issue is somewhat solved because that is provided via the source, and there are apps for Deezer, Pandora, Spotify, Stitcher and lord knows what for the iPad and other mobile devices. I could see using them in certain settings, though not as SB replacements. So what adaptations to SB functionality would you propose? I see three things missing. One is wifi / ethernet. A second is decent quality audio hardware (DAC, better circuits, digital outputs on the speaker adapter, better amp and speakers on the boombox). Go down that road and kiss your cost savings goodbye, because they all cost a lot more than the dime-a-dozen LCD screen. Third is the flexibility and scalability of LMS software. If I'm sitting in a suite (or a suit) at Logitech HQ, my question would be why adapt them at all to be SBs? This kind of product may be exactly the kind of thing Logitech knows how to produce, market, and support. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
