Re: [slim] Just One Question To The Original SD Team

2012-12-03 Thread pippin

danc27 wrote: 
 
 Edit - Although I would be very concerned about losing support for iPeng
 and the other remotes available now.  I wonder if something like that
 would change on the new UE system.

There will be an iPeng for UE.



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Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(

2012-12-03 Thread greenparent

Nikhil wrote: 
 I have been using both products for over 7 years now, and neither is
 inferior - they are just two very different things. I find myself using
 the SqueezeBoxen far more often than Sonos, but for most people Sonos is
 easier to deal with, and simply just works out of the box. Sure there
 are library size limitations, inability to stream higher res files, and
 no ability to tweak as with Music IP integration, room correction, etc,
 but that probably makes it more robust and indeed for most playback
 scenarios it works superbly.

Agreed, not saying SONOS is a bad system, just that if Logitech had had
some drive behind marketing, maybe they wouldn't have had to make the
decision they did, and now leave the playing field open! Yes there are
alternatives to Sonos out there, but not on a budget, and even they
don't do much marketing!



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Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(

2012-12-03 Thread jimzak

greenparent wrote: 
 Agreed, not saying SONOS is a bad system, just that if Logitech had had
 some drive behind marketing, maybe they wouldn't have had to make the
 decision they did, and now leave the playing field open! Yes there are
 alternatives to Sonos out there, but not on a budget, and even they
 don't do much marketing!

Sonos is advertising more and more with some slick national TV ads in
the U.S.



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[slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread cuberob

Hi all,

If you are into Android, Music and Automating stuff you might have heard
of the apps Tasker or Locale for android. With these apps you can let
your phone automatically do all sorts of things (e.g. turn on wifi when
around home). Well this got me thinking, how awesome would it be if
instead of turning on wifi, I could automatically turn on my Squeezebox
Boom when I get home!

So I went looking for a plugin but there was nothing to be found on the
android market, this is when i started experimenting and this is what I
eventually came up with: 'AutoSqueeze!'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cuberob.autosqueezefeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5jdWJlcm9iLmF1dG9zcXVlZXplIl0.)

It Let's you do just that! 
Set up Tasker to perform any of the supported commands under your
defined condition (e.g. when connected to wifi @ home between 10am and
8pm, press play on player X). 

140231402414025

You can also use Tasker to create so-called scenes as seen in the
third screenshot through the link. You can then place these on your
desktop as a widget and in this way have quick access to a players most
used controls. (These scenes are completely customizable which is
awesome but keep in mind that because of this it might also take you
some time to set them up) 

Anyway, hope some of you like it! It's in the market for €0,99.
That said, I'm not a professional developer (yet :) ) by any means, but
if you experience any bugs or would like to see a feature (command)
implemented, let me know and I'll give it a shot!

**Requires 'Tasker (Recommended, scene support)'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskermfeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5kaW5nbGlzY2guYW5kcm9pZC50YXNrZXJtIl0.)
or 'Locale'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.twofortyfouram.localefeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50d29mb3J0eWZvdXJhbS5sb2NhbGUiXQ..)
to function! And does not work with Squeezeboxes only connected to
mysqueezebox.com


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread maggior

Hi db122 -

Just to give you a heads-up, I submitted a log captured when trying to
play an album from Rhapsody.  Orange Squeeze will let me navigate my
library and hit play.  On the screen it appears like it is starting to
play, but nothing happens on the squeezebox.  No errors are reported by
Orange Squeeze.

Thanks in advance for looking into this.  Once this works, I'll never
have a reason to fire up squeezecommander :-).

Let me know if you need anything else.

Rich



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Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(

2012-12-03 Thread danull

jimzak wrote: 
 Sonos is advertising more and more with some slick national TV ads in
 the U.S.

Yep, I just saw my first advertisement for Sonos on TV about a week ago.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread I�igo

Hi there,

revisiting my old message #148, this is my updated improvements list:

* Now playing:
- show album date, f.e. Album Title (2013)
- show track number in album, f.e. Song title (12)
- show rating, f.e ***··

* Album list:
- show album date, f.e. Album Title (2013)
- sort albums by date (issue #56 in trac)

Thanks,
Iñigo



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread bluegaspode

wow - this is a very cool idea indeed.
To those who automate stuff with Tasker: what other usecase than 'come
home, turn on' could be useful additions to the Squeezebox experience?



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread Michael Herger

To those who automate stuff with Tasker: what other usecase than 'come
home, turn on' could be useful additions to the Squeezebox experience?


Come home listening to some track stored on your device, continue to play  
it on your SB of choice. Didn't somebody implement a half-automated  
version of this?


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Re: [slim] Thinking ahead: What alternatives exist for rating my music?

2012-12-03 Thread erland

GeeJay wrote: 
 One of my biggest must haves once I am finally forced to replace my
 SBs and LMS is the ability to rate tracks. I find myself very dependent
 on Erland's suite of plug-ins for this purpose. I rate tracks, use
 filters to create playlists that weight heavily towards highly rated
 tracks, and really like the feature that automatically rates new tunes
 and increases/decreases ratings when tracks are played or skipped. 
 
 Is there an alternative I can consider switching to now that can provide
 me with similar functionality? How can I best preserve my ratings such
 that when the SB world finally goes dark I don't have to start over
 from scratch? I used to import/export ratings from/to MusicIP, but given
 that software is no longer commercially available, that doesn't appear
 to be a great alternative. 
 
 I know this isn't likely to be a real issue for several years, but
 wanted to start researching the alternatives well in advance of when the
 need arises.
 
Some questions (to you or anybody else reading this thread):
1. On which devices do you use the ratings today, is it only on
Squeezebox or also with some other kind of player hardware ?
2. On which devices would you like to use the ratings in the future ? Is
it only on Squeezeboxes and the devices that will eventually replace
your Squeezeboxes or do you see a need on some other type of device also
?
3. What file formats do you have in your music library ?
4. Are you only interested in rating of tracks in your local library or
also for rating tracks on online music from Spotify, Deezer, Rhapsody,
MOG and similar services ?
5. Are you only looking for free solutions or is it something you would
be interested to pay for ?



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Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(

2012-12-03 Thread enigma

danull wrote: 
 Yep, I just saw my first advertisement for Sonos on TV about a week ago.

i've been seeing sonos advertising since early october here on the east
coast.

regardless, it's pretty clear that sonos ramped up their adverts
immediately after logitech discontinued the squeeze line. logitech
could've done adverts contrasting the two by pointing out it's
strengths.



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Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(

2012-12-03 Thread maggior

Sonos has a full sized product display in my local Target (a mass
retailer here in the US - a more upscale version of WalMart).  The
display includes an andriod device where you can interact with the
player.  Quite slick.  Too bad Logitech was never able to do something
similar :-(.  The closest I saw to this was a boom set up at a Best Buy
shortly after its release.  I remember not being overly impressed with
the setup - a newbie wouldn't really have been able to understand what
they were looking at.  

All water under the bridge at this point.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread db122

pippin wrote: 
 That's interesting. But my Nexus shows it as the #1 battery consumer
 after not using it for 24h or so.
 This is Android 4.2
 Actually I hadn't used it at all but set OrangeSqueeze to start it and I
 do use an OrangeSqueeze lock screen widget. That widget wasn't set to
 control SqueezePlayer, though, but my Squeezebox and OrangeSqueeze also
 isn't in the battery hog list anymore, at least not on the first page.
 
 Edit: another data point: I can see that SqueezePlayer stays permanently
 connected to my server.

It's possible that Orange Squeeze could be keeping it alive. Let me
check that out.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread db122

maggior wrote: 
 Hi db122 -
 
 Just to give you a heads-up, I submitted a log captured when trying to
 play an album from Rhapsody.  Orange Squeeze will let me navigate my
 library and hit play.  On the screen it appears like it is starting to
 play, but nothing happens on the squeezebox.  No errors are reported by
 Orange Squeeze.
I sent you an email -- just to recap though, I got a Rhapsody trial and
everything worked ok for me, so... hrm. I guess I need a bit more
details from you when you have time. If anyone else has an experience to
share wrt to Rhapsody and Orange Squeeze, please chime in.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread db122

pippin wrote: 
 
 You are aware that you can use MySqueezebox.com for remote scaling? They
 cache the result so as long as you are consistent with the size this
 will get you very, very good performance. With iPeng and all it's users
 my impression is that at least as long as I stick to the main
 services/apps I almost always get a cached result, or the server is
 really fast.
 

I was aware that this was possible, but have avoided adding a dependency
on mysb.com for this. It should probably be an option -- at least until
the service is killed off.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread Jaca

bluegaspode wrote: 
 wow - this is a very cool idea indeed.
 To those who automate stuff with Tasker: what other usecase than 'come
 home, turn on' could be useful additions to the Squeezebox experience?

LOL I'm doing exactly the same..  squeezebox automation with tasker..

My main object was to bypass build in alarm so I can avoid funky
bassline bug :)

it is really easy to get this going with Tasker and HTTP Get...  
I'm trying to also sync radios before turning on my favorite station
plus fade in... which is more difficult. split variable etc to get some
info back from server

I have tested 'auto play when got home' function.. and it worked spot
on..  its really great app tasker!! thanks db122 for pointin me in that
direction!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread Jaca

ohh I have tried to use INTENT which would be much easier to work with..
I can imagine... but failed to get anything to/from LMS
That's why I had to go to HTTP get/post... direction...

If you found a way to communicate with LMS better and don't mind sharing
it would be great. cheers!



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread Jaca

Jaca wrote: 
 ohh I have tried to use INTENT which would be much easier to work with..
 I can imagine... but failed to get anything to/from LMS
 That's why I had to go to HTTP get/post... direction...
 
 If you found a way to communicate with LMS better and don't mind sharing
 it would be great. cheers!

Just seen your printscreen and can see you did it properly with CLI as
you are using 9090... 
but I can see you selling it so I probably shouldn't ask about any
tips :)



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread pippin

db122 wrote: 
 I was aware that this was possible, but have avoided adding a dependency
 on mysb.com for this. It should probably be an option -- at least until
 the service is killed off.

Um. If MySB gets killed off most services won't work anymore anyway, I'm
sure you will have to make more changes then. I don't know about your
App but in iPeng this is like 5 lines of code or so.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread db122

pippin wrote: 
 Um. If MySB gets killed off most services won't work anymore anyway, I'm
 sure you will have to make more changes then. I don't know about your
 App but in iPeng this is like 5 lines of code or so.
It's really two separate issues, but yes I understand your perspective.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread db122

db122 wrote: 
 It's possible that Orange Squeeze could be keeping it alive. Let me
 check that out.

I don't *think* that Orange Squeeze was keeping SqueezePlayer awake
here. I audited the code and ran some tests and SqueezePlayer keepalives
are sent when OrangeSqueeze is connected to the server. When the screen
goes off, this connection is severed and the keepalives stop.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread cuberob

Thanks for the interest!

@bluegaspode I'm also still thinking about more use cases, *so tips are
very welcome*!
Currently I'm planning on adding mute to the possible commands, this
way you can mute the sound when you receive a call or something, I know
Squeeze Controller also does this, but this would work even without
squeeze controller running.
You can currently also do this by using the set volume command but
then you don't know exactly (or automatically) to which volume level you
should restore after your call is over.
-(oh and I guess your the developer of SqueezePad? Awesome app, use it
daily :) )-

And @jaca yeah i'm indeed using the CommandLineInterface to communicate
with the server.
Don't mind giving tips though! But I'm using my own code to send
messages to the server so I wouldn't know how to do that with just
tasker.
You can however, find all possible commands when you click help on the
LMS web interface (lower left corner).

As for the selling part, a little (financial ;)) appreciation for your
work is always welcome, hope to earn my Google publisher registration
fee back! :D



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] AutoSqueeze (Android Tasker/Locale plugin)

2012-12-03 Thread Jaca

cuberob wrote: 
 ..You can however, find all possible commands when you click help on the
 LMS web interface (lower left corner)...

I'm aware of help section that's where I got all commands, thanks. My
problem is to use tasker to communicate LMS at 9090.
I can send command from pc using telnet, but just can't make it work
within tasker...
Only way I managed to send commands is HTTP Get/Post..  hmm in fact I
only used Get... but decoding info back from LMS is bit tricky and I
feel like this is ugly way to go about things...
Well it works but... I know it could be done better.

cuberob wrote: 
 ...Don't mind giving tips though! But I'm using my own code to send
 messages to the server... 

That's very interesting... I'm complete Tasker/Android novice and
wouldn't mind getting some tips ;) Cheers!



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Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(

2012-12-03 Thread JJZolx

greenparent wrote: 
 Logitech you pulled out just at the wrong tiime!

That's what -she- said.



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Re: [slim] Just One Question To The Original SD Team

2012-12-03 Thread JJZolx

Because the original owners made their money by selling the -company-,
not by selling Squeezeboxes.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

2012-12-03 Thread banned for life

Bfl



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Re: [slim] ipeng question

2012-12-03 Thread banned for life

pippin wrote: 
 Please mail me.
 The easiest way would be from within the App, just tap the mail link
 under help and refer to your comment here.
 
 Bitrate limiting is available, but you should use the setting within the
 App (in the player settings) not the one on the server because iPeng
 uses split rates for WiFi and cellular and so will override what you set
 on the server side.

Thanks.

I see that now that the HD version is installed. No issue with the
funds. You are welcome and thanks for your good work. 

FOR LIFE.



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Re: [slim] Thinking ahead: What alternatives exist for rating my music?

2012-12-03 Thread GeeJay

erland wrote: 
 Some questions (to you or anybody else reading this thread):
 1. On which devices do you use the ratings today, is it only on
 Squeezebox or also with some other kind of player hardware ?
 2. On which devices would you like to use the ratings in the future ? Is
 it only on Squeezeboxes and the devices that will eventually replace
 your Squeezeboxes or do you see a need on some other type of device also
 ?
 3. What file formats do you have in your music library ?
 4. Are you only interested in rating of tracks in your local library or
 also for rating tracks on online music from Spotify, Deezer, Rhapsody,
 MOG and similar services ?
 5. Are you only looking for free solutions or is it something you would
 be interested to pay for ?

1. Just the SB for now. If I had to switch to Sonos, I imagine I'd have
to create static playlists and import them into the Sonos system. I'm
hoping a better competitor comes along before then, of course, but
that's what I would do today if I had to. 
2. Whatever I buy to replace SB. 
3. Mp3 and FLAC. 
4. Just my local library, although I might one day subscribe to Spotify
or MOG.
5. I would be willing to pay for it.



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