Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
I guess it all depends upon how one wants to listen. Personally I do not use any of the streaming services. Being retired, I am way too busy for that, also a dinosaur. I only listen to local music so LMS it is and happy to say so ! dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.
I have Win10 on a Surface 4. Love it. Except for a few things, one of which is playing music. As far as I can tell, there may be no way to have the screen off (saving power) while playing music. Hitting the power button puts the device to sleep, and setting the screen to turn off after -x- minutes has the same effect. There is a workaround for Chrome, but nothing I can find for non-browser apps. Would be nice if there was a way to allow playing from SqueezePlay with screen off, and even better if other background activity was also turned off. Suggestions? Any chance of some special wizardry in SP? Or will I have to go to my Android mobile for this functionality? The audio in the Surface 4 is SO much better . . . LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 2) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
oyvindo wrote: > Stay with your LMS. There's none above it and none next to it when it > comes to music media management and distribution. > I have my LMS 7.9 running on a high end QNAP NAS and use to drive a > number of legacy squeezeboxes, as well as several Chromecasts, plus > various implementations of SqueezeLite such as the very nice one for > Kodi, and last but not least, any UPnP (DLNA) device. Players are in my > house, and in the houses of the rest of my family plus a few friends > across the globe. > > My setup is 100% stable. > Most of it is shareware, opensource or public domain. The user domain is > huge and support Forums are excellent. > What more can you ask for? > > Yes, I agree the LMS web interface is becoming a bit outdated and rusty, > but I seldom use it anymore cause there's really no need. > My favorite PC front end to LMS nowdays is Muso > http://klarita.net/muso.html - it beats Roon big time, both in > functionality as well as in Price! > My library has some 9000 albums, mostly pop and jazz. Thanks for not answering my question. Just so you know, I didn't like Muso at all. It is like a childrens version of Roon. LMS is okay, but behind the times at this point. Roon is superior to it in almost every way in terms of UI. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS running Windows 8/1 >Wyrd USB>Regen USB?Mytek 192 DSD DAC;Odyssey Kismet (Khartago case) Stereo Amp; Devore Gibbon 9 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car;SB Boom and SB Touch in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
Similar situation for me: the VPN takes all the nw traffic and I don't want to fiddle on that part. So I listen to my music using a SBRadio which is still connected to my home nw, of course. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
It's not the most secure option, but you could forward port 9000 (tcp) to the IP address of the LMS. Get your external IP address from whatismyip.com then open yourIPaddress:9000 while VPN'd. wonton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63558 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
Julf wrote: > https://blog.lan-tech.ca/2013/02/21/access-local-and-vpn-network-simultaneously/ Yes yes split VPN. Thats all good but this is not what Pablolie describes. He describes a full tunnel VPN. Messing with the PC setup (adding an interface) might be frown upon, messing with the VPN client setup itself is serious. 4 SB 3 Libratone Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) Squeezebox Server 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
banned for life wrote: > That would depend on the VPN. Some VPN connections take ALL of the > traffic down the road to the office while some allow for simultaneous > connections to both networks... OpenVPN/PolarVPN provide simultaneous > connections, for example, while the Windows VPN client does not. https://blog.lan-tech.ca/2013/02/21/access-local-and-vpn-network-simultaneously/ "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
Julf wrote: > But you connect to the VPN through your home network? In that case you > should be able to connect to any host on your home network too, you > might just have to add a route (and a host entry if you want to use a > host name instead of numeric IP address). That would depend on the VPN. Some VPN connections take ALL of the traffic down the road to the office while some allow for simultaneous connections to both networks... OpenVPN/PolarVPN provide simultaneous connections, for example, while the Windows VPN client does not. B4L banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
I'm a long time LMS/Squeezebox user - nearly a dozen years now... I owe a huge debt of gratitude to all those that have kept LMS afloat after Logitech ditched it. So for me to consider leaving it behind is no easy decision. With that said, the rich Roon UI and environment runs circles around it. More importantly, it's getting the level of development & financial support that sadly, Logitech never gave LMS and Squeezeboxes. Numerous tools have cropped up (like Moose & Muso) that have served as great front-ends to LMS. Muso, particular, has a pretty slick UI. But still, not the content-and-functionality rich environment that Roon has established. IMO, Roon is a game-changer in how I listen to music and continues to evolve in a substantial way. My biggest hold-outs against Roon were the lack of phone control support and it's inability to stream radio. Well, Roon v1.2 just released now does that very nicely. And while there is no Spotify integration, Roon's integration with Tidal is exceptional. And then there is Roon's significant efforts to work with other hardware manufacturers to get their equipment 'RoonReady'. I will say that while Roon can stream to any Squeezebox or Squeezelite device (which is very cool and how I first learned about Roon), it simply treats them as end-points. So the slick UI of the Touch or SB Radio will not work other than as an on/off switch. But given that I've been controlling my Squeezeboxen via iPeng for years, I really don't have a problem with that and can just as easily now control them via the Roon Remote app. Last but far from least... the various plugins and LMS functionality that I've come to know and love (and yes, often not all that easy to know and love over the years) is lost in the Roon environment. Even if someone could find a way to implement the Roon RAAT protocol within a Squeezebox, it still would lose all the LMS plug-in functionality we've come to love. But then, much of that is either already in Roon or on their roadmap. Am I ready to turn the LMS lights off? Hmmm, I don't know... maybe. Mike (1 SB3, 1 Duet, 1 Boom, 2 Touch, 1 Radio & heavy use of iPeng on various iThings) mdconnelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
firedog wrote: > Roon has now released "RoonSpeakers" - endpoint software that makes > audio HW compatible with Roon. Does it use a proprietary protocol, or some more open / compatible / future proof solution (a la AES67)? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
epoch1970 wrote: > Nowadays the "hide my ass/make me appear as being in another country" > feature has made VPNs popular, so redirecting the default route has > become a standard setup of VPN clients from which it can be surprisingly > difficult to evade...) Your PC still has to be able to reach the local gateway, so reaching a local server is usually just a question of pointing to it. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
volpone wrote: > Hi all, > Im interested in feedback and discussion about potential Roon > alternative from Squeezebox users point of view. Stay with your LMS. There's none above it and none next to it when it comes to music media management and distribution. I have my LMS 7.9 running on a high end QNAP NAS and use to drive a number of legacy squeezeboxes, as well as several Chromecasts, plus various implementations of SqueezeLite such as the very nice one for Kodi, and last but not least, any UPnP (DLNA) device. Players are in my house, and in the houses of the rest of my family plus a few friends across the globe. My setup is 100% stable. Most of it is shareware, opensource or public domain. The user domain is huge and support Forums are excellent. What more can you ask for? Yes, I agree the LMS web interface is becoming a bit outdated and rusty, but I seldom use it anymore cause there's really no need. My favorite PC front end to LMS nowdays is Muso http://klarita.net/muso.html - it beats Roon big time, both in functionality as well as in Price! My library has some 9000 albums, mostly pop and jazz. QNAP HS-251 4TB RAID0, QTS 4.2.1 beta Kodi 15.2 Isengard Logitech Media server 7.9 QNAP TS-119 1TB Single, QTS 4.2.0 Stable Logitech Media Server 7.9 MediaSonic 5.01 oyvindo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
alnames wrote: > Being in a similar situation, I just use my smartphone connected to my > home network. I use OrangeSqueeze on my S5 but there are apps for > Iphones as well. I would say this is the sensible answer. After all if you're using a dedicated work PC and a VPN that redirects the default route to HQ, although you have admin rights, the intention was probably not to allow users install anything that would open the PC to the outside world. With an app on a personal device you'd have a perfectly good experience and the work PC can stay in its cocoon. If you don't really want to do that, or if the security policy is not that stringent, just start another network card on the PC (wifi or ethernet, physical or virtual) and connect it to your home network. Your work PC will have one connection to each locations at the same time. That will work unless both networks have the same numbering scheme, e.g. 192.168.0.0/24. Just remember that if you were given remote access to the work network, an admin there might access to your work PC just the same and examine what's going on. The right decision depends on what your organization (really) wants. (BTW, years ago in a time of thinner pipes, VPNs that would redirect the default route to the remote site weren't the norm. That was considered a super secure setup. Nowadays the "hide my ass/make me appear as being in another country" feature has made VPNs popular, so redirecting the default route has become a default setup from which it can be surprisingly difficult to evade...) 4 SB 3 Libratone Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) Squeezebox Server 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
Roon has now released "RoonSpeakers" - endpoint software that makes audio HW compatible with Roon. Anybody have an idea if an SBT could be hacked and this software installed on it? I'd be interested, as it would enable music streaming from Roon to a Touch, without using the present Roon solution, which is a stripped down type of SB "server" that doesn't include use of plugins, etc. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS running Windows 8/1 >Wyrd USB>Regen USB?Mytek 192 DSD DAC;Odyssey Kismet (Khartago case) Stereo Amp; Devore Gibbon 9 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car;SB Boom and SB Touch in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
Julf wrote: > But you connect to the VPN through your home network? In that case you > should be able to connect to any host on your home network too, you > might just have to add a route (and a host entry if you want to use a > host name instead of numeric IP address). I dont understand his setup. A vpn means nothing cause there are point to point vpns aswell as net to net vpns. If he uses a point to pont vpn than a single computer is connected over vpn to another single computer ( seems he uses that setup) If thats true you need the remote pc to walk into the other pcs in the remote network. If its a net to net vpn the whole net is connected together. Kvm is another feature some call software like vnc also kvm. Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Access to LMS Options
pablolie wrote: > when I work from home I am connected to the corporate VPN. my LMS is of > course set up on my home network. so when i am on my work computer, i > need to switch to the home computer every time i want to control LMS. But you connect to the VPN through your home network? In that case you should be able to connect to any host on your home network too, you might just have to add a route (and a host entry if you want to use a host name instead of numeric IP address). "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
