Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2012-01-16 Thread andreas.kagedal

bluegaspode;683557 Wrote: 
 As a developer you can only use 'native' Ogg if you are using Androids
 inbuilt Media Player.
 But the inbuilt player doesn't give me enough control to implement the
 SlimProto protocol that the Squeezeboxes use. (I.e. I need the exact
 playback position, not just a rough estimate to support
 synchronisation).
 Gapless playback and full control over the audio buffers is also not
 possible with the inbuilt player.
 
 I'll recheck with Android 4 when it gained more market share, I think
 they changed the APIs that developers can use, so I might be able to
 use more of the inbuilt decoders.
 
 For streaming via 3G with high probability you'd have to activate
 bitrate limiting anyway, which will essentially convert all your tracks
 to mp3 on the fly (provided that your server is fast enough for mp3
 transcoding).
 Most servers are.

I see! And you were right. I had to enable the mp3 bitrate limter. And
everything works now. I had the problem that I have 64bit server, and
had to install the 32 compatibility lib to make the mp3 transcoding
work.

Since most (all?) of the hardware players support ogg vorbis now, I
wonder if it would not make sense to use ogg vorbis instead of mp3 (or
an alternative) for bit-rate limiting. If my understanding is correct,
vorbis is much better than mp3 at the same bitrate. I know ogg vorbis
is VBR, but average bitrate is still good enough for most I guess. I
know Spotify is using ogg vorbis. But this is not something that
squeezeplayer can control, of course. THis is an improvement proposal
for Squeezebox server.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2012-01-12 Thread andreas.kagedal

Why is ogg (vorbis) not supported? As far as I understand this is a
native format in android. All other media players in my phone can
handle ogg files right away. And so can both my sqeezebox classic and
radio. I have all my music in ogg format at the moment. Transcoding to
pcmcia might work locally, but I want to set it up for streaming over
3G and then I don't think that is a good option.
Andreas


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