Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-25 Thread philchillbill

bengaldave wrote: 
> Hey that’s interesting. Where can one see the download count?

That’s not the LMS download count. It’s the number of new users
registering for my Alexa skills which I can see in the Amazon logs.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-25 Thread mikeyb48

Was looking to buy one, but prices have been gazumped, so cheers for
that Darko :(

£50-60 a few weeks ago now hitting £90 - £140 on eBay





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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-25 Thread bengaldave

Hey that’s interesting. Where can one see the download count?



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-25 Thread philchillbill


I think maybe the appearance of Darko's GOAT review for LMS explains the
5x increase in daily installs of MediaServer and LMS-lite over the past
month or so. I was wondering where all the sudden interest was coming
from :rolleyes:



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-23 Thread d6jg

Paul Webster wrote: 
> I didn't get to try it from the N770 but I could see that it still had a
> bookmark set to access it with an IP address of my Windows machine ...
> from when I used to run LMS in Windows ... so I suspect I might still
> have the Nokia770 skin on that system if I migrated machines by copying
> all of the data.
> 
> To try it out from the N770 has another hurdle though ... it cannot do
> modern WiFi security so cannot connect to my LAN so I would have to put
> in a special access point for it.

Sometimes “just because I can” doesn’t stand up as a valid argument. You
know that you have many better things to do today!

PS Let us know if it works.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-23 Thread Paul Webster


I didn't get to try it from the N770 but I could see that it still had a
bookmark set to access it with an IP address of my Windows machine ...
from when I used to run LMS in Windows ... so I suspect I might still
have the Nokia770 skin on that system if I migrated machines by copying
all of the data.

To try it out from the N770 has another hurdle though ... it cannot do
modern WiFi security so cannot connect to my LAN so I would have to put
in a special access point for it.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-22 Thread Browny

Paul Webster wrote: 
> That set me off looking ... and I have just powered up my Nokia N770
> 

Wow!  It booted up…..nice!  Pity the skin has been demised to actually
use it, but you’re probably the first person to try in a decade I
guess!!



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-22 Thread Jaca


Browny wrote: 
> 
> 
> Without a doubt the best Tech Investment I've made!
> 
> 

+1

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-22 Thread Paul Webster


Browny wrote: 
> 
> And final memory for me.I bought a Nokia N770 to use as a squeezebox
> remote once upon a timeanyone still got a working one of those!!?? 
> Bet that looks clunkier than a Squeezebox Controller now!!!

That set me off looking ... and I have just powered up my Nokia N770 ...
however, I could find Squeezeplay for N800 but not N770. Was there one?



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-12-22 Thread Browny


Definitely think these videos touch on the thing that still blows me
away: Squeezebox was so far ahead of it's time, it's still advanced 17+
years later!

Every Squeezebox I bought over the years is still working perfectly (a
decent selection - see below), and thanks to this community (and Michael
in particular) they more than keep pace with changes over time.

39529

Without a doubt the best Tech Investment I've made!

oh - and the Controller is arguably the only part that has become
redundant thanks to Smartphones, so doesn't get a lot of love these
days.  In fairness it's easy to forget that the Controller was seen as a
must have component for the battle with Sonos 'back in the
day'sighdoes make you wonder what might have been.

Blows my mind really that Squeezebox still wipes the floor with Sonos
even after they've had over a decade to try to catch up!!

And final memory for me.I bought a Nokia N770 to use as a squeezebox
remote once upon a timeanyone still got a working one of those!!?? 
Bet that looks clunkier than a Squeezebox Controller now!!!


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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-29 Thread philippe_44


Do you think I should offer him to try a SqueezeAMP? It's tempting but
first it is not a commercial venture (by no means) and second, it is
very unlikely going to fit his expectations of audio quality so it might
be a waste of time with frustration for everybody.



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1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW,
2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi,  Yamaha
WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-29 Thread Fahzz


Also don't forget that we also have this vital forum and community of
music fans, hi-fi enthusiasts and technology hobbyists that keeps our
Squeezeboxen running!



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-29 Thread ModelCitizen


mightaswell wrote: 
> 
> I could rant and rave about how happy I am I got into LMS.

So could I but I'm a little understated.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-29 Thread amey01


mightaswell wrote: 
> Coming from someone without any Squeezebox hardware, not only does LMS
> serve as an economical alternative to Roon, it also beats Roon in a few
> areas.
> 

It beats Roon in virtually every area.

The only obvious advantage of Roon is (slightly) less requirement for
technical nous. 

LMS does require a very small amount of technical ability in terms of
installing plugins, configuring them to work together, building RasPi
endpoints from PiCorePlayer, etc. 

Roon has got "plug 'n' play" a little more polished. 

But that's it as far as I'm concerned!



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-29 Thread mightaswell


Coming from someone without any Squeezebox hardware, not only does LMS
serve as an economical alternative to Roon, it also beats Roon in a few
areas.

UPNP/DLNA RENDERER COMPATIBILITY
Lots of good audio hardware out there that only supports UPnP streaming.
Generally, the user experience controlling these devices ranges from
acceptable to infuriatingly awful, particularly on iOS. LMS allows us to
ditch ugly, poorly implemented OEM apps, and featureless, aging
third-party controllers, and instead use Material UI, a centralized
library, and standard playlists. While Roon intentionally does not
support these endpoints for dogmatic reasons, the fact is that there is
a very strong use-case for the Roon-like experience while streaming to a
single device, bit-perfectly. And on many devices that support Airplay
and UPnP (HEOS for one), only UPnP will allow hi-res and DSD, whereas
the "Roon tested" workaround using Airplay will not.

MULTI-ENDPOINT
Continuing the previous point, LMS is nearly agnostic when it comes to
endpoints. I haven't found another system that will "bridge" this
variety of endpoints, not only allowing music to be played on a variety
of hardware, but exposing that hardware into other ecosystems (like
creating an Airplay speaker from a chromecast, or UPnP renderer from an
airport express.)

I can't stress this point enough. Running LMS allows my family to use
Apple Music on Airplay speakers around the house, while allowing me to
stream local content to those same speakers. In comparison to literally
any other multi-room system, either DIY (snapcast, Volumio) or
off-the-shelf (Sonos, HEOS, MusiCast), I'm not locked into any one
vendor and can simply piggyback off existing speakers. I find that
airplay + LMS is a great match for setting up whole home audio on the
cheap.


I could rant and rave about how happy I am I got into LMS. Hopefully
it's around a long time.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-28 Thread amey01


mherger wrote: 
> Wow... - even if it's refering to the SB world as "Vintage" :-D.
> 
> 



It was great then, it was great now. 

I guess you could claim plausible deniability on the Touch being
vintage, however the server is not even close!



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-28 Thread pablolie

bengaldave wrote: 
>  .. the radio, seem to not be affected by this issue. It’s a shame, I
> have added a Wi-Fi dongle to one radio and that seems to work, but now I
> cannot use it with a battery.

Which dongle did you get? It's a good idea (I installed the patch, but
that causes the Radio to occasionally interrupt music play when synched
to the rest of my players), but I want to make sure it's not a dongle
that suffers from the same WiFi issues,,, :-)



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Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF
Reference 1
Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Touch-> NAD D7050 -> KEF
LS50 + Velodyne Minivee Sub
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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-26 Thread agbagb


Here in France, I'm seeing this evening Touches - and not so many of
them - for either side of 175 euros.  Radios on the other hand are
plentiful, around 55 euros.  I wonder if a lot of Radios are being
dumped by folk gradually discovering the WiFi6 issue?  That said, White
or Red radios remain as scarce as hen's teeth, and always seem to
command a premium.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-26 Thread threshold350


mikeyb48 wrote: 
> Yeah cheers for that Darko, I'm trying to buy a Squeezebox Touch and the
> prices on ebay have risen already
> 
> :(

I hear ya.  The day before his vid came out, there was a Touch for $90
that I was pondering to pickup for a family member.   I slept on it like
I do with my impulse buys.  Darko vid came out the next day and I went
looking for the $90 Touch.  Ad was reposted with an updated price for
$200 and sold shortly after.  


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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-26 Thread agbagb


mikeyb48 wrote: 
> Yeah cheers for that Darko, I'm trying to buy a Squeezebox Touch and the
> prices on ebay have risen already
> 
> :(

I think it says a lot for the SB world that prices for "old kit" have
pretty much always been strong on EBay etc etc - it's my impression
(maybe wrong.) that you usually have to pay between 50 and 70% of
the original sales price, assuming the kit is in VG condition.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-26 Thread mikeyb48


Yeah cheers for that Darko, I'm trying to buy a Squeezebox Touch and the
prices on ebay have risen already

:(





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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-24 Thread bengaldave

slurmsmckenzie wrote: 
> I only just noticed these Darko Audio videos and enjoyed them a lot, so
> of course I came straight here to see if there were any threads about
> them :D
> 
> I got into LMS after researching a cheaper (and I think better!)
> alternative to Sonos for a friend back in 2009, he was so impressed that
> I decided to invest also - first a Boom, then Duet (which I didn't
> really end up using much) and finally a Radio. Over the years I added 3
> more radios to my collection (each with a battery) and they became the
> main way I streamed via LMS around the house. Just a brilliant system
> and community!
> 
> I can't help but think about the Radio wifi issue when I watch the Darko
> videos though as for me personally it has significantly impacted my LMS
> experience unfortunately. Because it is a neighbour with an Orbi mesh
> system which seems to have caused the problems I don't think I can solve
> them. I've looked into alternatives to the Radio before but nothing
> matches it for having the control / inputs (i.e. you don't need an
> additional controller or smartphone) and portability in one neat package
> (that I know of). It is discussed elsewhere of course, not meaning to
> start talking about it here, it just comes to mind is all.

An additional weirdness, the SB classic, which is older than the radio,
and the touch which is newer than the radio, seem to not be affected by
this issue. It’s a shame, I have added a Wi-Fi dongle to one radio and
that seems to work, but now I cannot use it with a battery.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-24 Thread HeadBanger

philippe_44 wrote: 
> But at the time, wasn’t it a gigantic leap in term of ease of use to
> navigate a library? I found it fantastic

Completely agree and I still have mine on a table for occasional use. 

The receivers may not have had the best DAC but with a digital
connection to an external DAC this was solved.

Can’t stand Darko’s usual subjective nonsense (macro dynamics anyone?)
but nice to see him praising the SB ecosystem.

HB



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-23 Thread slurmsmckenzie


I only just noticed these Darko Audio videos and enjoyed them a lot, so
of course I came straight here to see if there were any threads about
them :D

I got into LMS after researching a cheaper (and I think better!)
alternative to Sonos for a friend back in 2009, he was so impressed that
I decided to invest also - first a Boom, then Duet (which I didn't
really end up using much) and finally a Radio. Over the years I added 3
more radios to my collection (each with a battery) and they became the
main way I streamed via LMS around the house. Just a brilliant system
and community!

I can't help but think about the Radio wifi issue when I watch the Darko
videos though as for me personally it has significantly impacted my LMS
experience unfortunately. Because it is a neighbour with an Orbi mesh
system which seems to have caused the problems I don't think I can solve
them. I've looked into alternatives to the Radio before but nothing
matches it for having the control / inputs (i.e. you don't need an
additional controller or smartphone) and portability in one neat package
(that I know of). It is discussed elsewhere of course, not meaning to
start talking about it here, it just comes to mind is all.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-20 Thread agbagb


Don't know if it gets mentioned often, but the rechargeable Duet
Controller had a Beta headphones out feature, which was a very early way
of pottering round the house or sitting in the garden listening to music
via LMS!  One thing - at least in my exoerience - was that the battery
life was shockingly low ...



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-20 Thread pablolie


... no doubt in my mind. 

My system remains complete stable after all these years (I think I got
my first SB3 in 2005 or even 2004). Love the fact it's never support for
anything that matters to me: it has a great user interface, offer
awesome manual control of the music library... it perfectly surround my
pretty capable audio system with everything required to build digital
convenience and outsource anything else to the DAC and beyond. 

I'll give you a powerful example, IMO: in 2015 or so, I installed a very
easy to use NAD D7050 digital integrated amp. Perfect for those who want
a simple interface to music and simply control from their phone, with
Spotify build-in... until NAD pulled support for the app and for
Spotify. Let's face it audio vendors expertise isn't software and hence
integrating into a streaming app, because they'll discontinue support
after a few years. It's a story that repeats itself again and again: a
streaming service changes their API some, and unless the audio vendor
commits resources (and probably those resources are dedicated to their
existing and future products), you're left out in the cold. The
solution? I installed LMS running on an ancient Lenovo X61 that runs
Linux, picked up an SB3 from one of my moving boxes (I keep Squeezebox
extras :-D)... and off you go. Spotify now runs without a hitch (thanks
Mr Herger!). 

Synchronization is one very neat thing the video seems to omit. 

The SB3, Touch and Boom remain my fav products. My experience with the
Duet was horrific, the Controller and Receiver regularly stopped talking
and one had to reset them with a weird procedure and re-boot them etc. I
replaced it in the Bedroom system pronto with an SB3. :-) Back then I
had 6 active SBoxen throughout the house that played in perfect
synchrony, which back then amazed people. :-) On latest count, I
converted over 20 friends or acquaintances to the SB system.



...pablo
Server: Win10 and LMS 8.2.0
System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval
Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF
Reference 1
Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Touch-> NAD D7050 -> KEF
LS50 + Velodyne Minivee Sub
Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado RS1/Shure
1540

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-19 Thread d6jg

Paul Webster wrote: 
> My Controller is starting to play up - I suspect the battery is coming
> towards end of its life.
> It gets used most days to control a SqueezeAMP in the kitchen which is
> also controlled by 2 Jogglers (at opposite ends of the room).
> 
> SB2 used every morning and many evenings - screen still good but I think
> that is because I have screensaver set to blank it after 30 seconds,
> even when playing.
> 
> Openpeak2 (Joggler in a bigger case and with 2 front facing speakers)
> sits in the bathroom and is used every day.
> 
> Joggler on my desk, connected by USB to a Behringer mixer and then to
> HiFi Amp is probably the most used.
> 
> I just put LMS on an old RPi1 to ship to a family member who currently
> uses a Squeezebox Radio with MySqueezebox. The LMS is to keep him
> running when BBC switches of Shoutcast streams next year ... hopefully
> they will not kill off opensource use of BBC Sounds API at the same
> time.
> 
> Another family member is waiting for their shipping container to arrive
> having just changed country ... in it is their LMS on a RPi, Joggler and
> 2 AirPlay devices they they were using in UK ... A new SqueezeAMP from
> the next batch is destined for them to add to their set as they have
> more rooms in their new place.
> 
> Grandson has a Joggler in his bedroom that connects to LMS on an old RPi
> 1 powered by USB socket on their router. They gave me back their SB2
> (that was connected to a DJ mixing desk) because it stopped working ...
> turns out it was just the power supply that was faulty so it will be
> making the return trip soon with a replacement power brick.
> 
> Another family member has another of my my old RPi with original IQaudio
> HAT plus 3 Jogglers - one with USB connection to good small B speakers
> and another to a mini HiFi and another in a bedroom using the built-in
> speaker.
> 
> I love it.
> 
> Edit:
> PS - I forgot to mention the other ones that are in place but not used
> much ... 2 SB Radios plus another SqueezeAMP (used when the ironing has
> to be done).

Great stuff!

I use Jogglers but only as Now Playing / Control devices except one
which bizarrely is connected to a Behringer mixer! Said mixer is also
connected to a Trio KD1033B turntable (70’s) and also to my main PC.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-19 Thread Paul Webster


My Controller is starting to play up - I suspect the battery is coming
towards end of its life.
It gets used most days to control a SqueezeAMP in the kitchen which is
also controlled by 2 Jogglers (at opposite ends of the room).

SB2 used every morning and many evenings - screen still good but I think
that is because I have screensaver set to blank it after 30 seconds,
even when playing.

Openpeak2 (Joggler in a bigger case and with 2 front facing speakers)
sits in the bathroom and is used every day.

Joggler on my desk, connected by USB to a Behringer mixer and then to
HiFi Amp is probably the most used.

I just put LMS on an old RPi1 to ship to a family member who currently
uses a Squeezebox Radio with MySqueezebox. The LMS is to keep him
running when BBC switches of Shoutcast streams next year ... hopefully
they will not kill off opensource use of BBC Sounds API at the same
time.

Another family member is waiting for their shipping container to arrive
having just changed country ... in it is their LMS on a RPi, Joggler and
2 AirPlay devices they they were using in UK ... A new SqueezeAMP from
the next batch is destined for them to add to their set as they have
more rooms in their new place.

Grandson has a Joggler in his bedroom that connects to LMS on an old RPi
1 powered by USB socket on their router. They gave me back their SB2
(that was connected to a DJ mixing desk) because it stopped working ...
turns out it was just the power supply that was faulty so it will be
making the return trip soon with a replacement power brick.

Another family member has another of my my old RPi with original IQaudio
HAT plus 3 Jogglers - one with USB connection to good small B speakers
and another to a mini HiFi and another in a bedroom using the built-in
speaker.

I love it.



Paul Webster
author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-19 Thread garym


never really liked my duet. Eventually gave it away to someone on this
forum.  but I still use two different duet controllers to this day (easy
for my wife) and I have a 3rd new one in a box somewhere as a backup.



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(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.3.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000
*The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS &
Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin,
or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
*Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes,
TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-19 Thread Fahzz


Never had a touch. I went for the Duet  as an upgrade from a classic,
and had frequent wireless issues, but the killer was a hardware failure
with the remote charger. I like that Darko emphasizes the software and
the community as a big part of his GOAT award.



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Router: Netgear R700P
File Storage: Samsung T5 SSD
Music Service: Qobuz
Logitech Boom

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-19 Thread mark wollschlager


Nice show, true to the end.
I have 2 duets and one additional receiver.
No problems other than the power supplies for the receiver.
Did replace the batteries in the duet remotes, but otherwise awesome.



2 Duets controllers, 1 X Boom, 1 X Radio
1 X Receiver + Edifier S1000DB
1 X Receiver + Yamaha RX-A2000, Polk M70
1 X Receiver + Boston MicroSystem CD
Raspberry Pi 3 B+ HiFi Berry Amp2 7" touchscreen PiCorePlayer 7.0
Audioengine A5 ( passive mode )
Raspberry Pi 2 B, HiFiBerry Dac+ & Max2play
SqueezeAmp 3 Monsoon MM-700 flat panels + Infinity sub
HTC 10 w/ Squeeze Ctrl
ReadyNAS 516 LMS 8.3

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread d6jg


I never had a Duet. I started off in 2008 with an SB3 and relatively
quickly discovered iPeng so never needed one.



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*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread Greg Erskine


cfuttrup wrote: 
> Congrats!
> 
> Sorry to say, I also wasn't blown away with the quality of the sound
> from the Duet. On my website, in 2009, I wrote "The Squeezebox Duet is
> not a real Hi-Fi piece of equipment. I may be a bit sharp here, since
> probably 80 % of the population (the average consumer) can live with it
> the way it is. The Duet combo is a low-cost lifestyle piece of
> equipment, and I guess that's where the money is for Logitech."
> 
> With kind regards,
> Claus

I tend to agree. I used my Duet once!

One of my mates connected my Controller up as a player, it sounded a lot
better, probably as good as the Touch.

I still use the Controller as one of my control devices.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread slartibartfast

philippe_44 wrote: 
> But at the time, wasn’t it a gigantic leap in term of ease of use to
> navigate a library? I found it fantasticBefore smart phones it was definitely 
> the best way to control
Squeezeboxes. I still have mine on a side table ready for use. At the
time it seemed like I was always having to reset both the controller and
the receiver because the receiver had lost contact with the server for
some reason. Those were the days when I was using a Windows PC and Wake
On Lan and probably hadn't reserved an IP address for the server on the
router so I might have better luck now with a Pi server. I should
retrieve the receiver from the loft and try it again sometime.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk





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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread philippe_44

But at the time, wasn’t it a gigantic leap in term of ease of use to
navigate a library? I found it fantastic



LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch,
1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW,
2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi,  Yamaha
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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread slartibartfast


kidstypike wrote: 
> Ha!
> 
> The Duet was the only Squeezebox that I bought and sold on shortly
> after.
> 
> The remote I couldn't get to grips with. Don't get me wrong, it was an
> amazing design, great to look at, but trying to use it! The main problem
> was the wheel's sensitivity, I'd select a menu and go for the centre
> button to enter it, but the selection would move and I'd end up entering
> a menu I didn't want, back out of that menu and forget exactly what it
> was I was trying to do in the first place!
> 
> Or maybe it was just me? :(:rolleyes:The worst part of the controller was 
> entering WiFi passwords and search
terms. Painful...

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread kidstypike

philippe_44 wrote: 
> But you have to give credit to the remote part of the duet. I think it
> was absolutely amazing for it’s time

Ha!

The Duet was the only Squeezebox that I bought and sold on shortly
after.

The remote I couldn't get to grips with. Don't get me wrong, it was an
amazing design, great to look at, but trying to use it! The main problem
was the wheel's sensitivity, I'd select a menu and go for the centre
button to enter it, but the selection would move and I'd end up entering
a menu I didn't want, back out of that menu and forget exactly what it
was I was trying to do in the first place!

Or maybe it was just me? :(:rolleyes:



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*Lounge* - DAC32 - AudioEngine B2
*Office* - RPi 3B+/HiFiBerry DAC HAT/RPi screen - Edifier D12
*Bedroom* - Echo Show 8

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread philippe_44

cfuttrup wrote: 
> Congrats!
> 
> I agree with John Darko that 'Random Album' is a GREAT feature of the
> system.
> 
> Sorry to say, I also wasn't blown away with the quality of the sound
> from the Duet. On my website, in 2009, I wrote "The Squeezebox Duet is
> not a real Hi-Fi piece of equipment. I may be a bit sharp here, since
> probably 80 % of the population (the average consumer) can live with it
> the way it is. The Duet combo is a low-cost lifestyle piece of
> equipment, and I guess that's where the money is for Logitech."
> 
> With kind regards,
> Claus

But you have to give credit to the remote part of the duet. I think it
was absolutely amazing for it’s time



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread cfuttrup


mherger wrote: 
> Haha... and it doesn't stop there - thanks to an amazing response to the
> above video:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwLSb4vzJU

Congrats!

I agree with John Darko that 'Random Album' is a GREAT feature of the
system.

Sorry to say, I also wasn't blown away with the quality of the sound
from the Duet. On my website, in 2009, I wrote "The Squeezebox Duet is
not a real Hi-Fi piece of equipment. I may be a bit sharp here, since
probably 80 % of the population (the average consumer) can live with it
the way it is. The Duet combo is a low-cost lifestyle piece of
equipment, and I guess that's where the money is for Logitech."

With kind regards,
Claus



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread d6jg


Apesbrain wrote: 
> It's not $700 better than "Roon Lite": LMS + Material Skin + Music And
> Artist Information.

My thinking entirely



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*Dining Room* SB Radio
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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread Apesbrain


d6jg wrote: 
> Is Roon really that good?
It's not $700 better than "Roon Lite": LMS + Material Skin + Music And
Artist Information.



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread d6jg


mherger wrote: 
> Haha... and it doesn't stop there - thanks to an amazing response to the
> above video:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwLSb4vzJU


Watched this morning. He still holds our ecosystem in high esteem. Is
Roon really that good?



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-18 Thread mherger


Haha... and it doesn't stop there - thanks to an amazing response to the
above video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwLSb4vzJU



Michael

"It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log
and/or scanner.log file!"
(LMS: Settings/Information)

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-17 Thread agbagb


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Mainly if not only Radios I think.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I'm not sure whether the issue is the same as the Radio isssue, but I
cannot get my Touches to work reliably in the new WiFi6 / Mesh setup
..  Haven't had a chance to try my SqueezeAmps, but the expert word
here is that they will work fine.



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Win11
Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads

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External SSD, WiFi Laptop
2 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16907)
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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-16 Thread SamY


Oh no! The secret is out!!!  :eek:



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-16 Thread slartibartfast


w3wilkes wrote: 
> This issue must just be for specific SB devices. My 2 Duet controllers,
> receivers, Boom and PicorePlayer all work fine on my WiFi 6 ASUS 
> router.Mainly if not only Radios I think.

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-16 Thread d6jg

w3wilkes wrote: 
> This issue must just be for specific SB devices. My 2 Duet controllers,
> receivers, Boom and PicorePlayer all work fine on my WiFi 6 ASUS router.

I’m sure the issue depends which WiFi Router / Access Point you are
using. The SBs are fussy with some but not all.



Jim
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VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS)
[B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas  -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s

*Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s 
*Dining Room* SB Radio
*Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s +
Kef ceiling speakers
*Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-16 Thread w3wilkes


agbagb wrote: 
> That said, is there any chance at all that the SB kit can solve the
> WiFi6 incompatibility issue?

This issue must just be for specific SB devices. My 2 Duet controllers,
receivers, Boom and PicorePlayer all work fine on my WiFi 6 ASUS router.



Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 8.2.1 on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets ( both
WiFi, farthest unit gets 60% signal strength and always works since new
power supply) and Squeeseslave
Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 8.2.1 on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B
(WiFi) /Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave
Squeezebox Boom - "At Large" player around both home and cabin
Headphones and car - Android phone/Bluetooth w/full library on MicroSD
card - PowerAmp music player app (similar to Material Skin)

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-16 Thread agbagb


Wonderful stuff!  And what a great community of expertise and innovation
etill exists here.

That said, is there any chance at all that the SB kit can solve the
WiFi6 incompatibility issue?  It's not going to get any better



8.2.1 - 1639114554 
Win11
Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 6
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16881)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:8.0.1-r16862)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (8.0.1-r16881)

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-15 Thread Fahzz


Well deserved accolades. Thanks for all the hard work!



Pi4 w/Allo Boss 2 Player (Wired), Max2Play w/LMS Server 8.2
Router: Netgear R700P
File Storage: Samsung T5 SSD
Music Service: Qobuz
Logitech Boom

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-15 Thread lostboy


I loved the line @ 19.45 '... celebrate the GLORY that is the Squeezebox
Touch, and by association  the Logitech Media Server... '.

I couldn't agree more, and my sincere thanks to everyone who continues
to keep the heart beating in my whole house music system.

Chris



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-15 Thread w3wilkes


A great review of the Touch and the Squeeze platform! I've been happily
Squeezing my music since Christmas 2008 when I got my first Duet. I now
run 2 Duets, a Pi with PiCorePlayer and a Boom. Don't get the big deal
about the Duets, mine run on WiFi flawlessly. I did have to replace the
WiFi card in one of the Duet receivers and also a receiver power supply,
but other than that they've been trouble free. Can't thank Michael,
Craig, Phillip and the rest that have kept the Squeeze platform alive
and relevant through the years. From my perspective the whole Squeeze
music platform is G.O.A.T.!



Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 8.2.1 on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets ( both
WiFi, farthest unit gets 60% signal strength and always works since new
power supply) and Squeeseslave
Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 8.2.1 on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B
(WiFi) /Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave
Squeezebox Boom - "At Large" player around both home and cabin
Headphones and car - Android phone/Bluetooth w/full library on MicroSD
card - PowerAmp music player app (similar to Material Skin)

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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-15 Thread Insomniacx


Yeah
The best platform for music for 15 years ago and Now
1* SlimDevices Transporter
2* Sb Booms
2* Sb Radio
1* Sb Classic3
3* Sb Touch 

Thank you Michael and every one for keeping this awsome platform alive!



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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-15 Thread Michael Herger

...SB Touch sounds 0.5% better than the 2021 Bluesound system :-D
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Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-14 Thread Michael Herger
Wow... It's really nice to see this kind of video after all these years 
- even if it's refering to the SB world as "Vintage" :-D.


Prominently featuring Material Skin, Bridge plugins, iPeng, Orange 
Squeeze, Raspberry Pi - thanks for keeping this ecosystem somewhat relevant!

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[slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)

2022-11-14 Thread dsdreamer


*If this is already posted elsewhere, my apologies*

John Darko has a good appreciation for the merits of Squeezeboxes and
how well they hold up against today's popular offerings. 

Not sure if I can get away with posting a link, but I'll try below:

YouTube: The GREATEST music streamer of ALL TIME (for Spotify, Tidal,
Deezer & more)

https://youtu.be/g4-W7Zp4WnM



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