Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-28 Thread DaveWr
Mnyb;673107 Wrote: to work, a pulic service TV should operate under it's own charter and not under controll by the goverment, you see when it go wrong just tune in the weird channels on your cable TV. men with mustach and khaki uniforms reading the news :) The BBC is changing, ex Tory

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-28 Thread Gingernut63
DaveWr;673133 Wrote: The BBC is changing, ex Tory party chairman heads it up. Budget frozen for 6 years. We Brits like to wreck what we have. Don't worry, the right wing Aussies politicians try the same thing with the ABC. It's a constant battle :(. -- Gingernut63 Gingernut63

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-28 Thread toby10
Gingernut63;673064 Wrote: The ABC in Australia is very similar to the BBC; it provides the quality I look for in TV programs, some sourced from the BBC. The ABC while funded by Government, has it's own charter and operates independently. Without the ABC providing a quality alternative then

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-28 Thread AndrewFG
toby10;673059 Wrote: Good god! Our government in the TV/entertainment business? No thanks. ;)Spare a thought for the poor Italians. They have had to put up with BBC (Berlusconi Brodcasting Corporation) for decades... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread AndreE
This is very interesting discussion. I guess the real thread for average user comes from “external complexity” Any mass-market solution should be easy to set-up and operate by one fingertip. Interestingly TV solution rivals are: Samsung with its HUB, Philips with similar ideas and of course

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread toby10
AndreE;673021 Wrote: Who needs a standard TV when you can stream everything from internet using one of HUBX or possible iTune?. Once the content owners (networks, broadcasters) see their revenues slipping they will stop allowing internet broadcasting, some already do this. Or

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread Mnyb
toby10;673026 Wrote: Once the content owners (networks, broadcasters) see their revenues slipping they will stop allowing internet broadcasting, some already do this. Or they will start charging for internet broadcasting, effectively swapping cable/sat services for internet services.

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread castalla
Mnyb;673031 Wrote: that is all and well as it should be, but the content providers and content owners are just as confused as the music industry on how to provide for the user it all a big mess rigth now. Nobody is going to give consummers the absolute flexibility to shedule and

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread Mnyb
castalla;673034 Wrote: BBC manage without subscription - a yearly licence fee is sufficient - and results in the best radio and TV in the world. Subscription tv is a curse. They do get some £ by selling those shows to other networks... or you could pay to get BBC (I can with my cable

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread AndreE
Mnyb;673031 Wrote: don't forget that the big money in TV comes from the comercials nobody would afford TV if it where all paid by the subscription , thats a fraction of the costs involved. So the TV exist to expose you to comercials, your favorite TV show is a tool to have you sitting

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread AndreE
castalla;673034 Wrote: BBC manage without subscription - a yearly licence fee is sufficient - and results in the best radio and TV in the world. Subscription tv is a curse. we do pay quite some money in Germany on monthly basis - i still question some content produced for it some are very

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread paulster
Mnyb;673036 Wrote: castalla;673034 Wrote: BBC manage without subscription - a yearly licence fee is sufficient - and results in the best radio and TV in the world. Subscription tv is a curse. They do get some £ by selling those shows to other networks... or you could pay to get

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread toby10
Good god! Our government in the TV/entertainment business? No thanks. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread Gingernut63
toby10;673059 Wrote: Good god! Our government in the TV/entertainment business? No thanks. ;) The ABC in Australia is very similar to the BBC; it provides the quality I look for in TV programs, some sourced from the BBC. The ABC while funded by Government, has it's own charter and operates

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-27 Thread Mnyb
to work, a pulic service TV should operate under it's own charter and not under controll by the goverment, you see when it go wrong just tune in the weird channels on your cable TV. men with mustach and khaki uniforms reading the news :) -- Mnyb

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread Phil Leigh
toby10;672016 Wrote: Yeah, but most of his stuff is like the Partridge Family, David Soul, the Osmonds, Kiki Di, the Carpenters, etc ;) What's wrong with Kiki Dee and the Carpenters? (if you want to hear great songwriting, production and arrangement, listen to the Carpenters -

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread browellm
mherger;672063 Wrote: Well, I think Logitech are still thinking about doing *something* with Squeezebox. They emailed me today with a massive survey all around SB that I duly filled out for them. It was huge and took ages. Hope they appreciate it! Interesting! Can you send me a

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread toby10
Phil Leigh;672090 Wrote: What's wrong with Kiki Dee and the Carpenters? (if you want to hear great songwriting, production and arrangement, listen to the Carpenters - seriously) Kiki Dee's first 2 albums on Rocket are both great too. Now if you want to hear an arrangement bordering on

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread Phil Leigh
toby10;672105 Wrote: Now if you want to hear an arrangement bordering on heavenly I'd suggest: The original pressing (as pictured) of this album is legendary - only 1 copy is known to exist and has been lodged for safekeeping in the Vatican vaults, but the recent remaster fell victim to the

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread castalla
spooky photo ... are they aliens? -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread toby10
Ha! I get a chuckle every time I see that album cover. Just too funny. :) I do enjoy Karen Carpenter. Now Kiki I am not familiar with other than her duet with Elton (and I'd prefer not hearing that one again). -- toby10

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread oktup
castalla;671693 Wrote: I suspect they are aimed at different consumers. The Brennan is also advertised in the UK daily press and Private Eye (!). A more direct competitor is the Cockail Audio x10. Neither can do what, say, what the Touch can do - and neither are as flexible as players.

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread browellm
oktup;672144 Wrote: Happened to notice the latest issue of What Hi Fi on the shelf recently while doing my grocery shopping (ahem). Front page and main feature was The Top 10 Ways To Stream Your Music (best models for audiophiles, the best on a budget, best for user-friendliness, etc). Not

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread castalla
They cover the 299 pound range upwards - there's nothing avalable from Logitech at those inflated prices. -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread socistep
I would have liked to be on the survey, shame it couldn't be opened to forum members! Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread oktup
castalla;672150 Wrote: They cover the 299 pound range upwards - there's nothing avalable from Logitech at those inflated prices. But one of the categories was best on a budget, IIRC! It would seem incredibly strange if they had set an arbitrary £299 *minimum* limit for a budget category. Or

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread toby10
It would also be very interesting to see how many of the ten tested units are from companies that advertise in their publication. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread Pascal Hibon
toby10;672174 Wrote: It would also be very interesting to see how many of the ten tested units are from companies that advertise in their publication. ;) True. And did they do a blind test like the streamer test in HiFi Choise magazine? -- Pascal Hibon 2 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom and 1 x SB

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread browellm
toby10;672174 Wrote: It would also be very interesting to see how many of the ten tested units are from companies that advertise in their publication. ;) Ah, you are aware of What HiFi? then :D -- browellm Modwright Transporter Kondo M7 LV Argento Avantgarde Uno Nano

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread funkstar
browellm;672037 Wrote: Well, I think Logitech are still thinking about doing *something* with Squeezebox. They emailed me today with a massive survey all around SB that I duly filled out for them. It was huge and took ages. Hope they appreciate it! Interesting indeed. I filled it in and

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread TheLastMan
What do music consumers without an interest in geeky / techy solutions want from a music system these days? In order of importance as I see it: 1. The ability to play music from their iPod (unfortunately I think it will be necessary to concede Apple's dominance here) 2. A portable solution

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread browellm
funkstar;672217 Wrote: Interesting indeed. I filled it in and only got about three questions. They either didn't like that I was in the UK, or they didn't like the career choices for myself, my family or my close friends. I'm UK too. I agree that some of the questions are response driven

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread paulster
browellm;672247 Wrote: I was miffed that the Transporter wasn't one of the options in the What Hardware do you own? question :-/ Yes, I know. It's as though they're only interested in plastic products these days. A real shame. -- paulster Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot?

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-23 Thread toby10
browellm;672198 Wrote: Ah, you are aware of What HiFi? then :D Never heard of it till the post in this thread. Just a hunch. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread toby10
Gingernut63;671845 Wrote: The multiple ways of accessing music in LMS must remain. To quote Devo Freedom of choice is what you got, freedom of choice!, is what you want! :)... I hear ya bud, I hear ya. :) Recent posting of a new enthusiastic SB user just discovering a music service

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread gruntwolla
toby. I use both myself, my rather smallish music library of a few thousand songs and then I utilize several services for my enjoyment.:)[/QUOTE Wrote: I used to think my collection of 400 odd cd's was quite a reasonable collection until I read garym's posts!! Trev --

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread garym
gruntwolla;672011 Wrote: I used to think my collection of 400 odd cd's was quite a reasonable collection until I read garym's posts!! Trev ;-) It's an illness (according to my wife). He doesn't post here anymore, but search the Forum for the user iPHONE. His collection makes mine look

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread toby10
gruntwolla;672011 Wrote: I used to think my collection of 400 odd cd's was quite a reasonable collection until I read garym's posts!! Trev Yeah, but most of his stuff is like the Partridge Family, David Soul, the Osmonds, Kiki Di, the Carpenters, etc ;) -- toby10

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread gruntwolla
toby10;672016 Wrote: Yeah, but most of his stuff is like the Partridge Family, David Soul, the Osmonds, Kiki Di, the Carpenters, etc ;) Lol. I USED to own a Carpenter's cd. Unfortunately it got destroyed in a fire before I had a chance to rip it. Trev -- gruntwolla Debian sheeva

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread garym
I draw the line at David Soul. ;-) -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop)

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread browellm
Well, I think Logitech are still thinking about doing *something* with Squeezebox. They emailed me today with a massive survey all around SB that I duly filled out for them. It was huge and took ages. Hope they appreciate it! -- browellm Modwright Transporter Kondo M7 Red Wine Signature

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Herger
Well, I think Logitech are still thinking about doing *something* with Squeezebox. They emailed me today with a massive survey all around SB that I duly filled out for them. It was huge and took ages. Hope they appreciate it! Interesting! Can you send me a copy of the questionnaire?

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread paulster
I got one a few weeks ago and then was invited to participate in a focus group, which I was genuinely excited about as it was a perfect opportunity to give some real world feedback on the Squeezebox products. I waited in and they didn't show up. :-( Turned out they decided they didn't need

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread Mnyb
he he do they invite the usual suspects :) are not they a predictable bunch. But it is much better than a random choice at the busstop help what is this it's not an iPod -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-22 Thread paulster
Mnyb;672069 Wrote: he he do they invite the usual suspects :) are not they a predictable bunch. It was the day after I'd registered a new product on the website (to make sure I got any promo offers) that I got the survey sent to me, so I guess it was probably more to do with that than the

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread toby10
Gingernut63;671680 Wrote: The internet is a communication system, what happens if it falls over or someone cuts through a cable etc... How can you access the music then? .. Very true and it doesn't even need to be physical cable cut. Services come and go based on business

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread toby10
Gingernut63;671680 Wrote: .. I like to have ownership and control over the music I listen too. I would however like to access a streaming music service for a short time just to see what all the fuss is about. Indeed I have a friend who is mad keen for me to try it but as previously

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread socistep
toby10;671764 Wrote: I'm sure there might be a small segment of the streaming population that rely exclusively on services and own no music of their own. But I'd bet the vast majority of service users also have a music collection of varying degrees. I use both myself, my rather smallish

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread jo-wie
I do not know if it's wise to last only on streaming services. Some people are not happy when they read messages like the following http://www.stholdings.co.uk/2011/11/16/removal-of-content-from-spotify-simfy-rdio-napster/ -- jo-wie 2 * Classic, 2 * Boom, SC 7.6.2 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread castalla
Quoted from the posted link : 'As a distributor we have to do what is best for our labels. The majority of which do not want their music on such services. They provide poor revenue and have a detrimental affect on sales. Add to that, the feeling that their music loses its specialness by its

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread socistep
jo-wie;671786 Wrote: I do not know if it's wise to last only on streaming services. Some people are not happy when they read messages like the following http://www.stholdings.co.uk/2011/11/16/removal-of-content-from-spotify-simfy-rdio-napster/ Yes availability can change, also some albums

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread jo-wie
Weird music world, I can stream Adele 21 on Napster. -- jo-wie 2 * Classic, 2 * Boom, SC 7.6.2 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 250 GB 2,5 HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 LTS, CD - FLAC = dbpoweramp, Mix MusicIP, Router AVM Fritz 3270 last.fm/user/jo-wie

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread Gingernut63
toby10;671762 Wrote: Very true and it doesn't even need to be physical cable cut. Services come and go based on business decisions like Napster ending services in Canada next month. But I also think it is silly to worry about such things if you genuinely have an interest in using such

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-21 Thread Gingernut63
toby10;671764 Wrote: I'm sure there might be a small segment of the streaming population that rely exclusively on services and own no music of their own. But I'd bet the vast majority of service users also have a music collection of varying degrees. I use both myself, my rather smallish

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread Mnyb
erland;671554 Wrote: If you ask me, this was a very positive message, because it shows that: 1. Logitech is aware that they need to focus on the user experience to make the products a success, something they haven't done during the last years with all the technical non music and non user

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread paulster
You can, of course, hope that this guy is so far removed from the users, developers and marketing department that he has no clue what he's talking about and they'll be left to get on making it the product it should be. But that's always assuming that marketing have any clue, since they

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread erland
Mnyb;671565 Wrote: I was not convinced about point 4 the rest I agree . If local playback gets really small compared to streaming it might be seen as just a cost and deleted. But on the other hand there is no big difference from the current situation with very slow unguided development .

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread Mushroom_3
I'm not sure I understand why Logitech would want to concentrate on Internet radio. In the UK that market is well catered for with several models from the established radio manufacturers. Most have DAB, and/or FM radios built in as well. Some have CD players or iPod docks. The Logitech Radio,

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread Gingernut63
paulster;671566 Wrote: But that's always assuming that marketing have any clue, since they unfortunately tend to lead product development these days. :-( Don't you mean marketing and accounting? I think Logitech started well improving on the Slim Server ideas but over time they have lost

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread erland
Gingernut63;671576 Wrote: Anyway as castalla has stated, while the hardware still functions we can still have a Squeezebox network, it just seems that the future doesn't look too bright at the moment. Sorry erland, I didn't see that many positives coming out of the interview myself, maybe

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread Gingernut63
erland;671582 Wrote: It doesn't matter if we like it or not, but if Squeezebox is going to survive within Logitech they need to be able to bring it to the masses, and to be able to do that they are going to make some people on these forums disapointed but in my mind that's still better than

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread paulster
erland;671582 Wrote: It doesn't matter if we like it or not, but if Squeezebox is going to survive within Logitech they need to be able to bring it to the masses, and to be able to do that they are going to make some people on these forums disapointed. That's where I disagree with you. The

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread erland
paulster;671586 Wrote: That's where I disagree with you. The reason they haven't brought it to the masses is because they've been absolutely hopeless at marketing and positioning it. If you walk into any given Best Buy in the States, for example, you'll find it in with audio products,

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread toby10
erland;671582 Wrote: It doesn't matter if we like it or not, but if Squeezebox is going to survive within Logitech they need to be able to bring it to the masses, and to be able to do that they are going to make some people on these forums disapointed but in my mind that's still

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread verypsb
toby10;671593 Wrote: I think many of the audiophile SB customers (I don't qualify myself) too quickly dismiss the offered online content with a who needs it attitude. I would qualify myself as a audiophile user, but I don't think the issue is the who needs it attitude, but the There aren't

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread toby10
verypsb;671613 Wrote: I would qualify myself as a audiophile user, but I don't think the issue is the who needs it attitude, but the There aren't any streaming services available attitude. Agreed. But imagine how much more popular SB players would be in your market if there were actual

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread sebp
verypsb;671613 Wrote: I would qualify myself as a audiophile user, but I don't think the issue is the who needs it attitude, but the There aren't any streaming services available attitude. +1, although I would only qualify myself as a music lover. Music is too important for me not to own it,

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread Gingernut63
sebp;671626 Wrote: Music is too important for me not to own it, and these online services are like loaning music. I just don't like this idea. They may be a great way to discover new music, but I couldn't live with them as my sole mean of listening to music. I'm perfectly aware most

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread amcluesent
The product manager should be sacked and they should get someone in who actually understands what the product it, what demographic will purchase it Yep. I've just seen a TV advert for the Brennan player on Sky News here in England. If a one product SME can do marketing, why not Logitech? --

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread castalla
amcluesent;671686 Wrote: The product manager should be sacked and they should get someone in who actually understands what the product it, what demographic will purchase it Yep. I've just seen a TV advert for the Brennan player on Sky News here in England. If a one product SME can do

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread Gingernut63
Oh dear, something has changed since this posting on a website about the Duet back in May 21, 2008 Logitech bought Slim Devices, but we retained virtually all (I think we lost one) the same developers that brought you the Squeezebox Classic and Transporter. That includes the founder and lead

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-20 Thread sebp
erland;671582 Wrote: I guess it's just a matter of what you expected them to say, I was personally worried that they would say that they are going to drop the Squeezebox line and focus on iPod docks instead. So compared to that, the interview was pretty positive. This is some kind of worst

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread sebp
Here's (my rough and probably inaccurate translation for) an excerpt from 'an interview' (http://www.clubic.com/internet/google/google-tv/actualite-458400-logitech-interview-junien-labrousse.html) by Junien Labrousse (Executive Vice President, Products and President, Logitech Europe): NOW THAT

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread Mnyb
sebp;671384 Wrote: Here's (my rough and probably inaccurate translation for) an excerpt from 'an interview' (http://www.clubic.com/internet/google/google-tv/actualite-458400-logitech-interview-junien-labrousse.html) by Junien Labrousse (Executive Vice President, Products and President,

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread Mnyb
On the other hand fixing all the bugs could get us along way without sacrificing anything -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread toby10
In fact, most of Squeezebox customers today are more interested by the Internet radio capability. Like it or not (I do) this is the future of the entire product line and I'd bet it's the key reason Logitech was really interested in SB in the first place. -- toby10

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread Mnyb
toby10;671395 Wrote: In fact, most of Squeezebox customers today are more interested by the Internet radio capability. Like it or not (I do) this is the future of the entire product line and I'd bet it's the key reason Logitech was really interested in SB in the first place. that is

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread CharlieG
toby10;671395 Wrote: In fact, most of Squeezebox customers today are more interested by the Internet radio capability. Like it or not (I do) this is the future of the entire product line and I'd bet it's the key reason Logitech was really interested in SB in the first place. I guess

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread garym
CharlieG;671447 Wrote: I guess I'm one of the few Squeezebox users who does not use Internet radio at all (just used it for a short time in 2009). I do understand how some would use it to discover new music but I don't see myself using it as a primary source (unless sound quality has gotten

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread Mnyb
Much of internet radios problems is in it's multitude of everything from streaming quality to a plethora of formats apps and streaming aggregatetors broadcasters and whatnot . Sometimes working against there user interest and revert to obscure formats only usable from a pc , or by constantly

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread Gingernut63
Is having your own music collection now a thing of the past? Do the majority of Squeezebox users what their music collection in the cloud? Do the majority of Squeezebox users only listen to radio? Do they care about the fidelity of the sound? Big decisions. Could have huge ramifications for

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread paulster
I hear you. I was dismayed enough when they introduced a mono product (the Radio) and then discontinued the Transporter without a proper hi-fi component replacement. Funny enough I was just thinking about adding a couple of Touches to get some more zones, but I'm now going to look at the

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread Mnyb
paulster;671487 Wrote: I hear you. I was dismayed enough when they introduced a mono product (the Radio) and then discontinued the Transporter without a proper hi-fi component replacement. Funny enough I was just thinking about adding a couple of Touches to get some more zones, but I'm

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread castalla
Why all the panic and rumour? The Touch is perfectly useable via LMS, even if development stops and/or mysb.com shuts down. That's a lot more then many other systems which depend almost exclusively on a database server accessible via the internet. Calm down. -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread erland
sebp;671384 Wrote: Here's (my rough and probably inaccurate translation for) an excerpt from 'an interview' (http://www.clubic.com/internet/google/google-tv/actualite-458400-logitech-interview-junien-labrousse.html) by Junien Labrousse (Executive Vice President, Products and President,

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread erland
paulster;671487 Wrote: I was dismayed enough when they introduced a mono product (the Radio) and then discontinued the Transporter without a proper hi-fi component replacement. Funny enough I was just thinking about adding a couple of Touches to get some more zones, but I'm now going to

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread paulster
erland;671554 Wrote: Audiophiles are still going to want the CD because of the quality difference, but Logitech can't target audiophiles because on that market they are going to compete with HiFi manufacturers and most audiophiles are going to trust something with a HiFi manufacturer logo

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-19 Thread erland
paulster;671557 Wrote: They still own the SlimDevices brand. Use it. My Ultimate Ears personal monitors are still called Ultimate Ears since Logitech bought them, because no touring professional in their right mind would rely on a Logitech-branded product. There's no reason why they

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-18 Thread nicolas75
shaboyi;671001 Wrote: Please, please, please replace the Touch, get a good USB dac and enjoy MediaMonkey. You should be happier. Can you explain why this strange piece of advice ? Like a lot of people, I love the Touch hardware, but I am fed up with SBS/LMS. It is a common point of view

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-17 Thread nicolas75
aubuti;670630 Wrote: Thanks, Gingernut63, for laying out the pros and cons so clearly. Given my situation, I personally don't see the appeal, because SBS works reliably for me, and MM/MS's inability to do multiple streams is a dealbreaker. But I'm glad it's there for others who might

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-17 Thread Charles Stanton
Please, please, please replace the Touch, get a good USB dac and enjoy MediaMonkey. You should be happier. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:35 AM, nicolas75 nicolas75.53as5z1321450...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Gingernut63;670431 Wrote: @nicolas75, aubuti This is not totally

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread sherington
aubuti;670379 Wrote: I'm curious to try MediaMonkey, but before I go to the bother of installing it, could you explain how MM gets the tracks from my computer to my stereo systems? I've browsed the MM web page, and so far to me it looks to be more like iTunes, Winamp, Foobar2000, etc. That

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread cunobelinus
Accepted. On 16 Nov 2011, at 07:44, Muele wrote: cunobelinus;670449 Wrote: On 16 Nov 2011, at 07:30, Muele wrote: Btw I'm very pleased to here that Logitech is devoted to Squeezebox. Pleased to where? Ja, undskyld at engelsk ikke er mit modersmål. Men jeg rettede dog fejlen to

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread socistep
I've reduced the amount of time I spent 'working' on my SB/music system this year (first born arrived in Jan), 4 main tools I use to reduce the overhead 1) Reliable server - Invested in a HP proliant microserver which is rock steady, quick and quiet 2) Vortexbox - Installed on above, have had

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread nicolas75
Gingernut63;670431 Wrote: @nicolas75, aubuti This is not totally correct. If you have LMS on your PC then you don't have to have a LMS music database, hence no scanning. An empty folder is all that is required for the music folder address. MediaMonkey can manage your music database

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread nicolas75
aubuti;670399 Wrote: Ah, that's what I was afraid of. Doesn't sound like a solution for me. And I'm already familiar with the capabilities of all-purpose audio/media software like iTunes, Winamp, Foobar, Songbird, etc etc. Thanks anyway. I have to check how MediaMonkey can be controlled

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread nicolas75
gruntwolla;670428 Wrote: I also think it's incorrect/unhelpful to state that mediamonkey ( for example) is years ahead of LMS/SBS. I used to use mediamonkey in my pre SBS days, and I certainly don't miss it. The name SBS kind of gives it away really.It's primarily a SERVER, and as far as

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread nicolas75
Ok, it seems MediaMonkey even have addons to behave as a server controlled with a web interface. The more I see it, the more MediaMonkey seems to be everything LMS should be. I really use it in a much too basic way ... -- nicolas75

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread socistep
nicolas75;670531 Wrote: You probably never use your library the way a lot of people does. If you want to play some files wherever there are located, without necesseraly keeping them in your database, and make frequent changes to your library, MediaMonkey is really years ahead LMS (ease of

Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'

2011-11-16 Thread aubuti
Gingernut63;670431 Wrote: This is not totally correct. If you have LMS on your PC then you don't have to have a LMS music database, hence no scanning. An empty folder is all that is required for the music folder address. MediaMonkey can manage your music database and it tells Squeezebox what

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