Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-16 Thread SlimChances
mherger wrote: > Am 16.12.17 um 06:07 schrieb pablolie: > > > > mherger wrote: > . Which is > >> still less than the 0.00012 cents they'd get from Spotify. > >> l > > > > .00012 cents * a billion is still worth more than $1 of a CD no one > buys > > anymore. > > Exactly. Your quote is

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-15 Thread Michael Herger
Am 16.12.17 um 06:07 schrieb pablolie: mherger wrote: . Which is still less than the 0.00012 cents they'd get from Spotify. l .00012 cents * a billion is still worth more than $1 of a CD no one buys anymore. Exactly. Your quote is lacking a bit of context: I was saying that while

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-15 Thread pablolie
mherger wrote: > >>. Which is > still less than the 0.00012 cents they'd get from Spotify. > l .00012 cents * a billion is still worth more than $1 of a CD no one buys anymore. Artists make their adult business decisions. I'll respect that and shall support them through several channels. But

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-15 Thread Michael Herger
Second the motion for Bandcamp. It is a wonderful source for excellent music from a lot of artists otherwise ignored by the big labels. Yes I have discovered a fair bit of music there and it gives the artists a much bigger cut of the sales than Spotify I think But keep in mind that you're

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-15 Thread SlimChances
mlsstl wrote: > Second the motion for Bandcamp. It is a wonderful source for excellent > music from a lot of artists otherwise ignored by the big labels. Yes I have discovered a fair bit of music there and it gives the artists a much bigger cut of the sales than Spotify I think Logitech

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-15 Thread mlsstl
Second the motion for Bandcamp. It is a wonderful source for excellent music from a lot of artists otherwise ignored by the big labels. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-15 Thread bakker_be
pablolie wrote: > ... > > What I find refreshing about this thread is people seem to be focusing > on the music, rather than the sound quality. :-) It's rare. :-D > > PS: My favs I still tend to buy on CD. I think that qualifies us as '\"Music-First Audiophiles\"'

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-15 Thread pablolie
If carrying some horrible music counts against Spotify, then it should also equally count against any large shop selling CDs. Crappy music is the norm in the music industry these days. Autotune is the real talent. Ugh. I focus on the positive: I can find a lot of stuff I like (Jazz, Classical,

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-14 Thread Michael Herger
There are at least 100 songs that are among my favorites that are NOT available on Spotify, Tidal, or Pandora to which for 95% of them they can't give me a good reason why they are not available. I've still bought CDs this and last year from artists who refuse to be on streaming platforms.

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-14 Thread iPhone
SlimChances wrote: > Perhaps but to me while there is a wealth of music to choose from > quality has steadily gone downhill for over 20 years Some of the stuff released in the last 15 years SHOULDN'T be called music (IMHO)! I listen to just about everything if one excludes Rap & HipHop (which

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-14 Thread bakker_be
pablolie wrote: > Interesting thread. > > I nearly asked about Spotify use patterns in the audiophile forum. Is it > sacrilege? :-) > > I am what many would call an "audiophile", yet I *adore* Spotify. Their > collection is amazing, audio quality is great (shut up you "I could only > listen to

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-13 Thread pablolie
Interesting thread. I nearly asked about Spotify use patterns in the audiophile forum. Is it sacrilege? :-) I am what many would call an "audiophile", yet I *adore* Spotify. Their collection is amazing, audio quality is great (shut up you "I could only listen to the mouse fart in a corner of

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-13 Thread ftlight
bakker_be wrote: > I'll take you up on that offer, thanks a lot! Hope you enjoy my John Peel tape! If you're amused by his attempts to pronounce "bransle" (an early-baroque dance), here's how it should be done: http://www.pronunciationguide.info/sounds/bransle.mp3

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-13 Thread bakker_be
ftlight wrote: > When I worked at BBC Bush House (1968-71) we had clean feeds of Radio 1, > 2, 3 & 4, plus audio channels for BBC 1 and BBC 2 TV. Enterprising > staff in the Central Tape Room would record Top of the Pops, Pick of the > Pops, Top Gear, and other music shows every week at 15ips

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread ftlight
castalla wrote: > You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ... When I worked at BBC Bush House (1968-71) we had clean feeds of Radio 1, 2, 3 & 4, plus audio channels for BBC 1 and BBC 2 TV. Enterprising staff in the Central Tape Room would record Top of the Pops, Pick of the Pops,

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread d6jg
castalla wrote: > You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ... Mr Peel had an advantage over most in that aspiring artists would send him their albums etc FOC. He was our arbiter of good taste and a necessary filter of the mundane. Spotify doesn’t fulfil this role. I do listen to

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread castalla
d6jg wrote: > In the UK Spotify has replaced John Peel? No I don’t think so either. You could always create a public John Peel Playlist ... Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread d6jg
In the UK Spotify has replaced John Peel? No I don’t think so either. PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS) *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread bakker_be
usbethjim wrote: > THAT was funny...I spewed beer. > > Jim You should be severely punished: spew water, coffe, tea, soup, whatever, but NOT beer ... :p Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi +

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread usbethjim
slartibartfast wrote: > I don't have a clue what any of that means. THAT was funny...I spewed beer. Jim All wireless (TM-AC1900) except NAS (ReadyNAS PRO - OS 6.9.1 - 3GB RAM - 3 X 4TB drives - XRAID2 - LMS 7.9.1 ) Squeezebox Boom - Anywhere with an AC outlet Squeezebox Touch > Bose Radio -

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread usc95
I used to use Spotify as a "try before you buy" kind of service but now I feel foolish for buying an album when for all intents and purposes I have all the access to it I need with the Spotify subscription. I had to really take a hard look at how I listen to music and also accept that I cannot

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread castalla
SlimChances wrote: > Perhaps but to me while there is a wealth of music to choose from > quality has steadily gone downhill for over 20 years Can't argue with that ... Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread SlimChances
bb1959 wrote: > Um, dude, you're doing it wrong. > > FWIW, I bought my first album when I was 8...in a gadda da vida Perhaps but to me while there is a wealth of music to choose from quality has steadily gone downhill for over 20 years Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1504317335 @ Mon

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread bb1959
Um, dude, you're doing it wrong. FWIW, I bought my first album when I was 8...in a gadda da vida SlimChances wrote: > https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly > > I could never understand the allure of services of Spotify which seem to > spoon feed listeners rather than

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread bakker_be
Peter Galbavy wrote: > Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended) > returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an > industry with huge vested financial interests. > > I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the > utopians of the

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread slartibartfast
Peter Galbavy wrote: > Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended) > returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an > industry with huge vested financial interests. > > I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the > utopians of the

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread Peter Galbavy
Curated music services are just the status quo (no pun intended) returning to where the music industry was 30 years ago - and it is an industry with huge vested financial interests. I was working at the periphery of groups that were very much the utopians of the disintermediation fashion in the

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-12 Thread drmatt
I think Spotify/tidal/iTunes are the future. Seems to me that buying physical media or even bothering to purchase digital media will be a side show, a curiosity for the old and nostalgic in ten years time. The industry wants subscription, and now it has a taste for it physical media in

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-11 Thread Grumpy Bob
I find the role of Spotify (and other streaming services) quite interesting in a generational sort of way. I grew up in an era when finding music could be quite a challenge, particularly when one was interested in rather 'alternative' genres. I do have a premium Spotify subscription, but I use it

Re: [slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-11 Thread castalla
SlimChances wrote: > https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly > > I could never understand the allure of services of Spotify which seem to > spoon feed listeners rather than encouraging them to make the effort to > research and find music on their own; through friends,

[slim] The Automation of Selling Out

2017-12-11 Thread SlimChances
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-muzak-pelly I could never understand the allure of services of Spotify which seem to spoon feed listeners rather than encouraging them to make the effort to research and find music on their own; through friends, concerts, searching music stores etc.