Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-17 Thread garym
audiomuze wrote: Slightly OT, but has anyone managed to install Vortexbox from a USB stick? not that I know of. frequently requested. Andrew says the next major update to Vortexbox software will allow installation from USB stick. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter,

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-17 Thread alfista
garym wrote: not that I know of. frequently requested. Andrew says the next major update to Vortexbox software will allow installation from USB stick. There are instructions somewhere on how to install from USB, but they were so convoluted that I gave in and burned a CD. Usually I burn to CDRW

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-17 Thread reinholdk
Regarding the time it takes to rip a single CD: among other factors like quality of your CD drive and your CD, it also depends on whether it's a real Audio CD or not: it feels like decades ago but in fact it is not so long ago that parts of the music industry tried hard to prevent copying a CD.

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-17 Thread donmacn
reinholdk wrote: Regarding the time it takes to rip a single CD: among other factors like quality of your CD drive and your CD, it also depends on whether it's a real Audio CD or not: it feels like decades ago but in fact it is not so long ago that parts of the music industry tried hard to

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-17 Thread garym
donmacn wrote: or not succeed at all. I remember this from first time around with the MP3 rips. Wasn't it the case that some CDs wouldn't play on a computer? Maybe particularly ones on the Sony label?? Struggling to remember with any accuracy I'm afraid. I think though that I only

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-17 Thread w3wilkes
Sony was putting out CD's that would install a rootkit on a windows PC IF autoplay was enabled (this was the default, but can be turned off). DBPowerAmp has a setting for reading these discs as long as your drive supports it. Check in the DBPA Options for the Defective By Design setting. 2

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread reinholdk
Guess I'd prefer to use LMS on the vortexbox as soon as possible instead of doing the switch after all CDs have been re-ripped. So I'd use the folder structure as suggested above and copy the old mp3 files into it. You could turn off the old LMS (but not uninstalling yet) and get used to the

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread garym
I'll throw in another thought. I really like my Vortexboxes (I have 3). But the one thing I don't use them for is ripping CDs. The ripper in the VB does NOT use ACCURATERIP. It uses a secure type ripper that pre-Accuraterip would have been very, very good. And it still works well. But it doesn't

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread aubuti
donmacn wrote: I haven't looked at this in any detail yet, but the issue must be the storage memory used and the bandwidth needed to play larger 'uncompressed' files? Less compression = more memory and more network traffic? That is correct, but for FLAC the difference in file sizes between

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread donmacn
Guys, thanks all - a lot of useful stuff in these replies. as it happens I stayed home today to try and shake off a bug, and not inflict it on the rest of the office. So, I downloaded dbpa to try playing / learning that, as I'd got the suggestion earlier about using a separate ripper from the

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread garym
regarding bagpipe, rip a couple of CDs and see how it handles the names. Not sure without trying. also try converting the ripped FLAC files to mp3 with these names and see if that works. For ripping, the only DSP I use when creating FLACs (or converting FLACs to mp3) is the ReplayGain DSP. I

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread aubuti
donmacn wrote: First off, I missed the 'secure' ripping option and started in 'burst' mode. I was surprised at how quick things were going by comparison to my previous process of EAC and Lame. Then I got a couple of tracks with inaccurate rips, looked a bit deeper, and found the 'secure'

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread garym
aubuti wrote: This shouldn't happen as often in dBpa as in EAC, at least not if you have dBpa set up correctly. I'm on the other side of the pond from my dBpa right now, but you want a setting that will do a burst rip, and then compare the rip (actually the checksums) to the AccurateRip

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread donmacn
Brilliant! Thanks again to all. Gary - I'll go and play with those ripper settings (Gain and 'ultra secure') and see how I go. Aubuti - I think I WAS confusing the filename and tag contents. And I'm happy that I can use 6/8s as intended! On the question of 'Springsteen Bruce' - though I

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread donmacn
probably wandering a bit off-topic here, but I re-ripped the Springsteen CD using those settings, and it was still a long process. All down to the last track. Probably about 18-20mins to do that alone. First time round it had to re-rip something like 160 frames, this time it was 300+. I left it

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread garym
donmacn wrote: Brilliant! Thanks again to all. Gary - I'll go and play with those ripper settings (Gain and 'ultra secure') and see how I go. Aubuti - I think I WAS confusing the filename and tag contents. And I'm happy that I can use 6/8s as intended! On the question of 'Springsteen

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread garym
donmacn wrote: probably wandering a bit off-topic here, but I re-ripped the Springsteen CD using those settings, and it was still a long process. All down to the last track. Probably about 18-20mins to do that alone. First time round it had to re-rip something like 160 frames, this time it

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread aubuti
donmacn wrote: On the question of 'Springsteen Bruce' - though I happily accept that LMS can interpret or display this sensibly, what's the benefit of having the additional ARTISTSORT element in the tag that might not get used? Is it simply to add it in because it's automatic and doesn't

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-16 Thread audiomuze
Slightly OT, but has anyone managed to install Vortexbox from a USB stick? digital groove | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/) | 'ATC SCM100ASLT'

[slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread donmacn
hi all, Having thought about it, I've decided to move my LMS from the family PC, and rescan the CDs to FLAC. I'm going to use a vortexbox. This was one of my options, and the final choice was driven by getting one at a reasonable price on ebay recently. So, I'll probably have to update the VB

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread w3wilkes
A comment on ripping to FLAC. All FLAC is the same quality - LOSSLESS. The difference is the amount of compression. I believe the default is 5. The higher the compression the more processor will be required to compress it. On the decoding side I'm under the impression that this is fairly CPU

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread Apesbrain
If I were taking on this task, while re-ripping CDs to the Vortexbox I'd leave my existing configuration alone so I (and my family) could continue to enjoy it. (The last thing I'd want is to be doing is a lot of tech support during this process!) Vortexbox as a ripper will automatically fetch

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread donmacn
w3wilkes wrote: A comment on ripping to FLAC. All FLAC is the same quality - LOSSLESS. The difference is the amount of compression. I believe the default is 5. The higher the compression the more processor will be required to compress it. On the decoding side I'm under the impression that

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread donmacn
Apesbrain wrote: If I were taking on this task, while re-ripping CDs to the Vortexbox I'd leave my existing configuration alone so I (and my family) could continue to enjoy it. (The last thing I'd want to be doing is a lot of tech support during this process!) that is what I was initially

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread Apesbrain
donmacn wrote: Just a little confused by this: if the VB needs power and network access (presumably to the internet for database/album art etc) then wouldn't it have to be connected to the router the whole time? While you're ripping the Vortexbox needs internet access but it can be -wireless-

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread donmacn
Apesbrain wrote: While you're ripping the Vortexbox needs internet access but it can be -wireless- if that is more convenient for you. When you make it your production server, however, it needs to be -wired- to your router. Of course! Homer Simpson moment thereDoh! Thanks D SB

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread garym
once using the vortexbox, and ripping to FLAC (I use compression = 5), you can also create an mp3 mirror of your flac files automatically on the vortexbox with a couple of mouse clicks on the VB GUI. I use mp3 for my portables and use lame -V2 (~192kbs) for my mp3 files. The VB is best connected

Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start

2013-12-15 Thread w3wilkes
donmacn wrote: I haven't looked at this in any detail yet, but the issue must be the storage memory used and the bandwidth needed to play larger 'uncompressed' files? Less compression = more memory and more network traffic? That's it. donmacn wrote: There are three reasons why I was