Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread Jeff_G
Hmm, adding import charges, realising that buying from the US the tax will be also added... it all adds up. I bought Synology DiskStation because that comes with LMS. I wonder whether I could connect the DiskStation and a DAC and play the 96/24 leaving the SB3 out completely, only using the LMS?

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread DJanGo
Jeff_G wrote: But when I connect the DAC to the NAS I can't. I should be able to do it, shouldn't I? No LMS is Server only you may can add a player to but not under a NAS with NAS Firmware. And no doesnt make sense. Overkill like 96/24 and smaljoekitchen like LMS on a NAS. Gruss Jan

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread dafiend
Jeff_G wrote: I 2. Does it sound much better than the SB3? Probably not. Digital audio conversion is basically a solved problem and has been a solved problem at the time the SB3 was released. All properly designed DACs should be transparent (i.e., sound the same). Of course, in certain

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread pablolie
dafiend wrote: .. All properly designed DACs should be transparent (i.e., sound the same). .. I hope you are not including the ones provided in every computer, smartphone or tablet as part of those. There are plenty of poorly or cheaply designed DACs out there, then :-) I agree that

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread dafiend
pablolie wrote: I hope you are not including the ones provided in every computer, smartphone or tablet as part of those. There are plenty of poorly or cheaply designed DACs out there, then :-) There exist many tiny and cheap devices which perform excellently both objectively (as

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread Jeff_G
I do not know anything about DACs. What I know, is I tried two, Arcam irDAC and Audiolab M-DAC. I couldn’t tell any difference when my SB3 was connected to them. However, I used to have my SB3 connected to an old NAD amplifier. When I tried Stream Magic 6 with the old NAD, the sound was much

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread dafiend
Jeff_G wrote: Probably the SB Touch would be wiser choice even though the price is double, £500 in the UK. That I find still extremely steep. You said you are not a techie. But you could still by one of those mini computers pre-assembled and fully configured. For example, here's a HiFiBerry

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread pablolie
dafiend wrote: ... Your perceived difference in sound quality is likely a placebo effect. Yes, your Benchmark DAC likely measures better than many other gear, but there's a point where differences are too small to be perceived by human hearing. That I decisively disagree with. I can

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread w3wilkes
I've been keeping my eyes peeled for an announcement on this... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97803-piCoPlayer-Squeezelite-on-Microcore-linux-An-embedded-OS-in-RAM-with-Squeezelitep=791739viewfull=1#post791739 With the other work I've seen on these boards where JackOfAll is

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread Julf
pablolie wrote: I can hear a clear difference between the Benchmark and the Audioengine even when I use them both exclusively as headphone amplifiers. So when only using their analog sections? To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread pablolie
Julf wrote: So when only using their analog sections? The data comes into either device as a digital stream (PCM out of the Touch for the Benchmark, USB from the computer to the AE D1), so they do the DA conversion and -let's say for the first test- send it out to the headphone output. Both

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread dafiend
pablolie wrote: I can hear a clear difference between the Benchmark and the Audioengine even when I use them both exclusively as headphone amplifiers. I'm not sure it's worth digging deeper into this. If I remember correctly, the original poster didn't mention anything about headphones.

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread serge789
Try to build the Raspery and use an external DAC like this: http://www.thomann.de/de/teac_ud_501_b.htm serge789's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54897 View this thread:

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread pablolie
dafiend wrote: I'm not sure it's worth digging deeper into this. If I remember correctly, the original poster didn't mention anything about headphones. your comment was a reply to mine, not to the OP. That said, I abhor theatrical diatribe, and even though I know I can prove my point about

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread pablolie
serge789 wrote: Try to build the Raspery and use an external DAC like this: http://www.thomann.de/de/teac_ud_501_b.htm to me the issue is... once my (significant) collection of SB devices go why keep investing in HW if the SW component looks vulnerable? I think I said back in 2006 that I

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-07 Thread agillis
How about an Audiophile VortexBox? - Plays direct to a USB DAC, Yes - 24/192, yes - DSD, yes - SOtM USB card to make your DAC sound amazing, Yes - Under $200, Nope more like $1000 but it has 1TB (or more) local storage, CD ripping etc. rip, tag, get cover art… All you do is insert the CD!

[slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread Jeff_G
As much as I like the SB3, I will need to replace it because it will not play 96/24 files. However, I’m having a real problem finding a network player that would have such a good interface as the Squeezebox has on my android. I do not use the remote or my laptop, only my android phone. Artwork,

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread jeremy
Stay with LMS and get either a Squeezebox Touch (some new still to be found and plenty second hand) or a s/h Transporter Either will leave you with plenty of change from a £1000 budget Third option but without integral display - build a player Raspberry Pi for c£120 and spend the rest on a

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread garym
agree. best bet it to acquire a used SB TOUCH. 24/96 is standard (and with the EDO plugin can even handle 24/192) and works with the LMS system you already have. Squeezeboxes and what is now called LMS were way ahead of their time. I follow this issue and I haven't seen a commercial replacement

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread Jeff_G
I've looked at the prices in the UK, a new one £500+, second hand, not sure, there are some on eBay and they all close on Sunday. I just came across Simple Audio: http://www.simpleaudio.com/all-products/roomplayer-models/roomplayer Although I'm not sure whether they have an app for android, I'll

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread RonM
There's a new never-used original Transporter (with the knob) on ebay right now at http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Logitech-Transporter-Network-Music-Player-With-Transnav-Knob-BEST-EVER-/361065246704?pt=US_Internet_Media_Streamershash=item54112a6ff0. US$1200, strikes me as a better deal than the

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread RonM
Also a Transporter SE (without the knob) for $999.99, also will ship internationally.

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread jeremy
+1 for Transporter. Been very happy with mine. Knob unimportant in my view, mine has one but don't use it much and could happily do without. Odroid card computer running Squeezeplug LMS 7.9, USB hard drive Lounge - Transporter with -20dB internal attenuation, Linn LP12/Ekos/Troika, Naim

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread garym
jeremy wrote: +1 for Transporter. Been very happy with mine. Knob unimportant in my view, mine has one but don't use it much and could happily do without. Love my transporter. It has a knob, but I've probably used the knob 3 times in 6 years. Maybe not even that much. *Location 1:*

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread Jeff_G
I think I might just go for the Transporter! Although I do have a few questions before I go for it. 1. I will only use my phone, so I'm guessing the one without the knob will do just fine. Same unit, same internals etc.? 2. Does it sound much better than the SB3? 3. What is the highest

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread jeremy
1 yes 2 very yes 3 24/96 4 yes 5 you can register new email Odroid card computer running Squeezeplug LMS 7.9, USB hard drive Lounge - Transporter with -20dB internal attenuation, Linn LP12/Ekos/Troika, Naim NAC102, Linn Tunebox crossover, 3 x Naim NAP250 power amps, Linn Keltik active

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread garym
Jeff_G wrote: I think I might just go for the Transporter! Although I do have a few questions before I go for it. 1. I will only use my phone, so I'm guessing the one without the knob will do just fine. Same unit, same internals etc.? 2. Does it sound much better than the SB3? 3. What

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread Jeff_G
Shame that it won't play higher than 96Khz. Although, I don't think I have anything that is above 96. The touch would be more future proof. I'm very tempted, but the import charges USD 224 are putting me off. Jeff_G's

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread kesey
Jeff_G wrote: Shame that it won't play higher than 96Khz. Although, I don't think I have anything that is above 96. The touch would be more future proof. I'm very tempted, but the import charges USD 224 are putting me off. Why not buy a Wandboard and a decent USB DAC? You'll then be set up

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread garym
Jeff_G wrote: Shame that it won't play higher than 96Khz. Although, I don't think I have anything that is above 96. The touch would be more future proof. I'm very tempted, but the import charges USD 224 are putting me off. I rarely buy Hires tracks, but when I do, I only buy the 24/96. It's

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread Jeff_G
Wanboard? I googled it but as I am not so technically minded it doesn't mean much to me. I need to use my phone to select the music and radios from the Synology DiskStation. I'm not so fussed about 192/24. I think 98/24 is more than enough. It would be nice to have it if people decide to use it

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread wortgefecht
Jeff_G wrote: I've found this upgrade: http://www.fidelityaudio.co.uk/upgrades/squeezebox/squeezebox-classic-sb3/ Sorry in advance for going off-topic: The above linked service claims, that their updates reign in the overly aggressive treble and upper mid band peaks + adding extra weight to

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread Mnyb
Jeff_G wrote: Wanboard? I googled it but as I am not so technically minded it doesn't mean much to me. I need to use my phone to select the music and radios from the Synology DiskStation. I'm not so fussed about 192/24. I think 98/24 is more than enough. It would be nice to have it if

Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread GeeJay
Jeff_G wrote: Wanboard? I googled it but as I am not so technically minded it doesn't mean much to me. I need to use my phone to select the music and radios from the Synology DiskStation. I'm not technically minded, either, but have been monitoring the board for developments in this