[Snowdrift-discuss] new Snowdrift.coop forum, email lists closing

and encouragement makes a difference, so to stay engaged please come say "hi" on the forum as a next step. We look forward to further discussion with you there! This discuss email list will be closing soon. Archives will remain at https://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop Cheers,

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Set monthly donation limit?

On 12/26/2017 02:00 PM, James Cook wrote: > Hello, > > Great to see some functionality on the site! > > In the Budget section of my dashboard, I see the message: "You will > never be charged more than your budget limit of $10 per month." Is > there a way to change the monthly limit? > > James

[Snowdrift-discuss] Updated Snowdrift.coop Code of Conduct

ee to reply with any questions or feedback. Along with solidifying other governance, we will in the future have a more formal process for updates like this. Cheers -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

[Snowdrift-discuss] Defining terminology for Snowdrift.coop

the terminology we need and some other issues have been opened for specific items on that list. Please feel free to weigh in with thoughts or additional brainstormed items either on the issue discussion or here on this thread on the mailing list. Thanks! -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Non-Profit Question

On 11/13/2017 12:31 AM, jake wrote: > Clearly, Snowdrift.coop is non-profit. > > But must all projects funded on Snowdrift be non-profit? > No, but none of the project requirements are set in stone since we still have to roll out that whole structure. The plan is *not* to require that all

[Snowdrift-discuss] General project-management suggestions

of our tasks/projects and how to work on them together. I'd like to hear any thoughts or get into discussing how we can apply this to our workflow. -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[Snowdrift-discuss] Meeting notes from today

progresses, and there's always ways to help out if you're interested. We're happy to hear any questions / encouragement / critiques / suggestions… In harmony, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] PCI compliance

On 07/10/2017 01:53 PM, fr33domlover wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > I found a nice website with human readable info about PCI compliance: > > > > I'm bringing this up especially because right now Snowdrift is using Stripe's > proprietary JS,

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Funding opprtunity?

On 02/10/2017 04:18 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 02/10/2017 02:58 PM, Tufts wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Bryan Richter >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40:52PM +0100, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote: >>> >>> On 09.02.2017 19:04, Bryan Richter

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] FOSDEM 2017 - flyer?

On 01/31/2017 01:50 PM, Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen wrote: > Hi, > > Being one of the 30 patrons so far, I think it's stalling a bit too much at > the moment. > > So I have made a A4 flyer suitable to hang on the many pin boards along the > hall way > track at FOSDEM this weekend. > > The audience

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's talk about the mechanism

On 12/22/2016 06:50 PM, Jason Harrer wrote: > Not sure where my comments would fit into the conversation, so please > forgive me in advance for responding on top instead of within the thread. > > I think the topic of next steps is a great idea. I think the topic of > modifying the current logic

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's talk about the mechanism

To summarize some IRC thoughts I wrote: I think the appeal of set goals for money and patrons is understandable but problematic. Projects and patrons are *shitty* at determining these things. The majority of patrons will be *wrong* about their predictions about how they'll feel about their budget

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's talk about the mechanism

On 12/22/2016 02:14 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > Although we need to think beyond MVP, we still need to limit our scope. > I am including the following because it strengthens the argument for > this system. > > Please ONLY discuss it insofar as it relates to "should we adopt the > system?". Do

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Development status

> Please stop the talking, the postponements, stop telling > people what you want to do and just do it ffs. Start with > something simple, do a prototype, get feedback, stop wasting > time. If you don't, your project will be a huge waste and > you'll be dead as soon as some other person who cares

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Development status

On 10/19/2016 11:41 AM, Rosario Suarez wrote: > Do you guys have any serious, practical, defined, concrete, real plan to > bring Snowdrift up to a working state anytime soon? Because I've been > following this project for years, and all I see is talk and talk and nothing > ever happens. You've

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How to manage fees for first real-money operations

On 10/06/2016 09:44 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 06:46:10PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> >> First, the premise: As a financial system trying to get people focused >> on how public goods actually work and are actually funded, we don't >> want fees h

[Snowdrift-discuss] How to manage fees for first real-money operations

the true amount we get, what Stripe is taking, and express that the fee does not reduce the money received per the crowdmatching calculation. Thoughts? -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] New Slogan: "Crowdmatching for public goods", terminology clarification.

WHOOPS, I was too TIRED. I mistyped! I obviously meant: "CrowdMATCHING for public goods" not "crowdfunding" Sorry for the confusion there. The first few paragraphs should be changed to "crowdmatching" where I carelessly wrote "crowdfunding" Sorry! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

[Snowdrift-discuss] New Slogan: "Crowdfunding for public goods", terminology clarification.

Cheers, Aaron On 09/20/2016 11:31 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Michael Siepmann > <m...@techdesignpsych.com> wrote: >> On 09/20/2016 08:40 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> On 09/20/2016 01:04 AM, mray wrote: >>>> On 2

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Clearer slogan?

On 09/20/2016 01:04 AM, mray wrote: > On 20.09.2016 02:25, David Thomas wrote: >> What about dropping "fund"? "Crowdmatching for public goods" > > What about dropping "for"? > > "Crowdmatching for public goods" > "Crowdmatching public goods" > > You could say we ultimately crowdmatch for

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Clearer slogan?

On 09/19/2016 08:41 PM, Mike Linksvayer wrote: >> So, I'd accept "crowdmatching for public goods" > > I really like "crowdmatching for public goods". I suspect that if I read that > without context, I'd take funding as implied, and be surprised if the thing > with that slogan didn't involve

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Clearer slogan?

On 09/19/2016 04:37 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote: > On 09/19/2016 01:57 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> "Free the Commons" is a nice, short, relevant slogan. It's a call-to-action. >> >> But freeing in what sense? What commons? What are "the commons"? And >&

[Snowdrift-discuss] Clearer slogan?

goods?" at which point those are indeed *the* two questions we want people to ask and that we want to answer concisely in order to introduce Snowdrift.coop. -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Using Stripe.js will break LibreJS

Update: I checked with Crowd Supply what they do… They say they simply have a form that doesn't use any JS, they process the form data server-side and send to stripe via Stripe's API, and they never store any payment data to disk so avoid any extra compliance burden. This approach would work

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] migrating users

On 08/12/2016 07:31 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > Since persona is shutting down, we have to migrate everyone to an > email/passphrase authentication system. > > I did some analysis of the user table to see what that would require. > I found a few different categories of user, which may need

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

On 08/09/2016 06:31 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > > > On August 9, 2016 8:59:16 AM EDT, Bryan Richter <br...@snowdrift.coop> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 03:55:42PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> On 08/03/2016 03:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: >>>> On Wed

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

On 08/03/2016 03:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Aaron Wolf <aa...@snowdrift.coop> wrote: >> On 08/03/2016 03:29 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: >>> Clean slate because context is getting absurd and this is important >>> regardless of

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

On 08/03/2016 04:56 AM, mray wrote: > On 03.08.2016 12:48, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 08/03/2016 01:27 AM, mray wrote: >>> >>> >>> By definition the carry over is lower than the limit where fees make >>> sense - I expect this to be low. >>> For

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

On 08/02/2016 06:48 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > I think the cleanest initial way to go is "No more than $limit will be > added to your outstanding balance each month." That is, carried over > matches should *not* be counted towards your monthly limit, but fees > should, in their entirety. > Well

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

oject. So, there is no separate adding of money, there's only monthly charges of the funds that will all go to projects for that month. > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Aaron Wolf <aa...@snowdrift.coop> wrote: >> On 08/02/2016 05:05 PM, mray wrote: >>> During the last m

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] How the limit works

On 08/02/2016 05:05 PM, mray wrote: > During the last meeting we discussed details about how the limit works. > I just want to voice my opinion on how the limit should work: > > I strongly believe we should make the limit sacrosanct and not touch it > *never ever*. A decision by the user to set a

[Snowdrift-discuss] meeting today 18UTC

In a few hours, meeting at https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift 18UTC = 11AM Pacific All welcome -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https

[Snowdrift-discuss] video chat today about Snowdrift progress

Sorry for last minute notice. Anyone interested is welcome to join us today 18:00 UTC (That's 11AM Pacific) at https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift We'll be doing this weekly meeting every Monday going forward. Cheers -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] greetings from Finland

On 06/22/2016 07:15 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > Hi all, > > Today was my first real day in Finland, and happily I was able to > settle in and make some progress on Snowdrift. My internet situation > is still getting squared away, but it should be good soon. I'm way out > in the countryside, and

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Task unassignment

On 05/25/2016 04:12 AM, fr33domlover wrote: > Hello, > > Recently this Taiga issue was created following feedback sent by Aaron: > > https://tree.taiga.io/project/taiga/issue/4218 > > That explains under which conditions someone can claim a ticket, but what > about > unclaiming? > > Who can

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

On 05/19/2016 06:32 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Bryan Richter > wrote: >> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 09:22:46PM -0600, Michael Siepmann wrote: >> >> On 05/18/2016 05:51 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Tue, May 17, >> 2016 at 12:13:34PM

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Let's take care of the blog

On 05/17/2016 10:21 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > Website work is blocked on taking care of the blog, so let's do that. > We have to make some decisions, but first we need to agree on what > purpose we are trying to achieve. > > To frame the "purpose" discussion, I'll pose the first question: Where

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] [Snowdrift-team] modifying donations to feed into the mechanism

On 05/06/2016 06:55 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > [moving to discuss list] > > On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 12:57:41PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 05/06/2016 12:10 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: >>> On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 11:31:52AM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>>> >

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] An opt-in we don't prefer could help Snowdrift design , ,

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Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] An opt-in we don't prefer could help Snowdrift design , ,

On 05/02/2016 02:34 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michael Siepmann > <m...@techdesignpsych.com> wrote: >> On 05/01/2016 10:11 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >>> So, I learned from in research in traditional fundraising this >>> in

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] An opt-in we don't prefer could help Snowdrift design , ,

ology to help people flourish/™ > 303-835-0501 TechDesignPsych.com > <http://www.TechDesignPsych.com?id=esig> OpenPGP: 6D65A4F7 > <http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?search=0x6D65A4F7=on=on=vindex> > > > On 05/01/2016 10:11 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> So,

[Snowdrift-discuss] An opt-in we don't prefer could help Snowdrift design , ,

ment where is the best place to write down this idea so that it gets discussed and can then be something our research and design folks can consider and test… Cheers, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Sandstorm on Oasis

On 03/24/2016 11:31 AM, Bryan Richter wrote: > We've sort of put Sandstorm on a back burner, but I think there is a > much better solution to consider: > > https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/administering/for-work/#special-pricing > > Basically, we should just ask for free hosting on their

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Weekly Tactical Meeting Today, 3/21, 19:00-20:00UTC

On 03/21/2016 08:46 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > Important note: for folks outside the US, you may not have passed > daylight savings yet, so this time may be offset 1 hour. It'll be back > to normal next week. > > We're switching away from OpenProject, so no link this week. See the > long "state

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Page development: current status

On 03/14/2016 11:49 AM, Mica Semrick wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > I will be doing some work on these! Unfortunately my schedule does not > permit me to attend any meetings, so these types of mails are very > useful to me. > > I'd like to touch base with anyone else who is going to author/edit. Let >

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] Governance Mtg March 7 @ 19:00UTC

On 03/06/2016 06:25 PM, Stephen Michel wrote: > That's today/tomorrow, depending on when you read this. We will: > > - Implement the core of Holacracy > - Discuss which parts of Holacracy we shouldn't implement and any > additional policies we may want. > > To ensure we have time, there are 3

Re: [Snowdrift-discuss] steps that lead to working mechanism

On 03/01/2016 12:44 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 12:16:22PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> >> So, I have a bigger concern to make sure we consider: Lots of things >> currently reference user id such as links for sponsors and elsewhere >> including Civi

Re: [Discuss] user stories vs specs

On 02/26/2016 01:29 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > Yesterday while fleshing out user stories, the question came up of > whether or not user stories can capture everything, or whether some > information should be deferred to specs. > > In my opinion, separate specifications are needed because user

Re: [Discuss] on prioritizing next steps for Snowdrift.coop

On 02/18/2016 12:24 AM, Stephen Michel wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:18 AM, char...@thefnf.org wrote: >> Before you dive into process for process sake and die a death of a >> thousand cuts by the toolchain... I'm seeing lots of massive brain >> dumps, grandiose plans, long lists. That's a

[Discuss] on prioritizing next steps for Snowdrift.coop

f taking known items (let's go with how-it-works pages as the first example) and eventually having a totally organized way to identify all the appropriate stories and tasks in Open Project. Best, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop signature.asc Descript

Re: [Discuss] OpenProject Work Packages Workflow

On 02/12/2016 04:44 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 02:12:59PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 02/12/2016 02:00 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: >>> >>> Hmm, yeah, maybe co-op/money/website are a lot more interdependent >>> than I was thinking. Tha

[Discuss] Snowdrift weekly meeting in 45 minutes

http://shovel.snowdrift.coop/meetings/6 We're organizing our meetings better via OpenProject. Today is just a shorter check-in, and chance to bring up any immediate concerns, make sure we're on the same page with things, on top of everything. Cheers, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf co-founder

Re: [Discuss] Meeting minutes 2016-02-01

On 02/01/2016 03:36 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > Thanks to setting up OpenProject, we now have a perfectly reasonable > place to record minutes for meetings. Here is what I came up with for > today's meeting: > > http://shovel.snowdrift.coop/meetings/2 > > Any feedback on minutes format would be

Re: [Discuss] shutting down our sandstorm instance

On 01/28/2016 02:28 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > We primarily wanted Sandstorm for Etherpad. However, Etherpad is a > node.js based, JIT-compiled application. Sandstorm's security model > requires each document to be running in its own, sandboxed copy of the > app, and the JIT-ness apparently

Re: [Discuss] Sandstorm Etherpad is a memory hog

On 01/27/2016 02:29 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > Each Etherpad pad uses 60-100MB of memory when someone has it open. > Right now there are four open pads, using a total of 27% of the > system's memory. > > I don't know if we can stand for that. Options? Thoughts? > Naive non-tech-thought: That's

[Discuss] initial SCaLE follow-up snowdrift meeting in an hour

Last minute reminder, video chat meeting 20:00 UTC (1 hour from now): https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift First of a lot of discussions we'll have about going forward given valuable perspectives and connections following our booth at the Southern California Linux Expo. Cheers! -- Aaron Wolf co

[Discuss] Snowdrift meeting in 2 hours, final pre-SCALE

Hi everyone, We've been juggling a lot of things, won't go into details right now. In 2 hours, 20:00 UTC (12 noon pacific), we'll have the final weekly meeting before SCALE this weekend. Come join us at https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift Cheers, Aaron

Re: [Discuss] Pricing experiments & launch timeframe

for the thought, and the push. We will work to get this thing going ASAP!! -- Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop <https://snowdrift.coop> ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [Discuss] [Funding Mechanism] How to accommodate lower and higher pledge levels

complexity, too much to explain, too many qualifications over the plain pledge concept, and so we really need to focus on launching without all this for now. The explanation of it all is just too cumbersome. The principles would be ideal to have, but we can't make it work practically. > > ~St

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: What makes a team member?

kat.net > <mailto:b...@chreekat.net>> wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:09:22PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > > > The question is: How do we determine who gets to count enough as a > team > > member of Snowdrift and t

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: What makes a team member?

butors" list, which could be > governed by an algorithm that measures a base level of activity on > the site. > > Thoughts? > > -Jon > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop <mailto:Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop> >

Re: [Discuss] Slogan proposal: "Free the Commons!"

9.2015 20:30, Bryan Richter wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:08:18PM -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> >> Per discussion recently, we worked through a lot of options >> for slogans. It seem people with various critical views all >>

[Discuss] Slogan proposal: "Free the Commons!"

ree the Commons!" as the final slogan? I think it will be easy to then build writings / presentation that draws upon this new succinct slogan. Snowdrift.coop — Free the Commons! -- Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop <https://snowdrift.coop> ___ Di

Re: [Discuss] Proposal: Simplified Defunding Mechanism

t/w/en/mechanism/c/3419 Cheers! Keep the ideas coming, you're clearly thinking well about the issues we're facing and how to design this well. Best, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop <https://snowdrift.coop> ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

e metaphor and image of shoveling the snow. I just ran this by my wife, and she thinks this is best, so despite what I wrote above, I think this is the best balance of meaningful, appropriate, and not to jargony or pigeon-holing, and focusing the end goal, not the means. My vote now: ***Help F

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

In various contexts, such as "clearing the path to a free world", the term "free" sounds jingoistic, as "the free world" is used to mean America / U.S. versus the Soviety Union etc. Although "creative commons" is taken, various forms of statements around the

Re: [Discuss] Agree on a Slogan

t;we" issue. "We fund…" definitely sounds like "we, the Snowdrift.coop folks" in a way that does not at all come across as inclusive. It's comparable to a restaurant saying "we serve the finest wine" or whatever. FWIW, the evolution of the current slog

[Discuss] Community engagement with Snowdrift.coop, mailing lists, forums…

that this mailing list option may work out well enough, at least for now. I'm going to hit send, and we'll see. All the best, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop https://snowdrift.coop ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https

Re: [Discuss] anonymity and payment

what we can really do. But we're aware of the issue. We may not have all our ideals working from the beginning of course. -- Aaron Wolf Snowdrift.coop https://snowdrift.coop ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https