Re: [discuss] ODT becomes ZIP on download in Windows XP Pro SP2

2006-01-28 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 1/28/2006 13:18 'Ian Lynch' wrote: On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 11:13 -0800, John Boyle wrote: To All: The simplest cure is to use either Mozilla or Firefox and avoid Internet Explorer entirely!! But not that useful for promoting ODF in a world where the reality is that most computer users use

Re: [discuss] PIM program for OpenOffifice

2005-12-29 Thread Steve Kopischke
Thunderbird is an e-mail program with a very weak address book. Sunbird is a pre-alpha attempt at a calendar/scheduler. Neither is a PIM. I have searched for a long time for a good, open source PIM and have come up empty. I have been using EssentialPIM Pro (it has a free version), but it is

Re: [discuss] PIM program for OpenOffifice

2005-12-29 Thread Steve Kopischke
://ct.enews.eweek.com/rd/cts?d=186-3012-2-79-266549-350520-0-0-0-1 - Original Message - From: Steve Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@openoffice.org Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [discuss] PIM program for OpenOffifice Thunderbird is an e-mail program with a very

Re: [discuss] Upper case problem in OO Calc

2005-12-29 Thread Steve Kopischke
Try clearing the ToolsAutocorrectOptionsCapitalize the first letter box. SJK on 12/29/05 16:43 'Tracey Ambrose' wrote: Hi, I've just discovered that I can't start a cell with a lower case letter, I am being forced to have upper case and this can not even be over come in formating, if

Re: [discuss] Well-well-well...

2005-12-18 Thread Steve Kopischke
Gee there's *another* e-mail address to add to my killfile. I may not agree with much of anything Chad/Rod post, but I am getting tired of the anti-Chad tirades. SJK on 12/18/05 18:29 'Roger Markus' wrote: Hmm... Chad and Rod pouring Microsoft propaganda into the list again! (See:

[discuss] Return Receipt Requests

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Kopischke
I do not know anything about the mail list management software used for these lists. However, is there any way to strip Return Receipt Requests off before sending them off to the list members? There seems to be an increase lately in those. SJK

Re: [discuss] Support PDF.

2005-12-15 Thread Steve Kopischke
Have you tried FileExport to PDF? on 12/14/05 06:34 'Zebri Shaari' wrote: Dear pros, Firstly i congratulate you on your success on openoffice 2.0. Many of my colleagues and i use this program which is equilavant to it's competitor, even better i may say. Could i suggest that i you also have

Re: [discuss] To all - PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR RETURN RECEIPT REQUSTED!!!

2005-11-20 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 11/20/05 12:56 'mark' wrote: Heh. Try the redhat list, where folks invoke an out-of-office message, which responds to *every* *single* *post*. But no, there's only two or three folks whose email wants the receipts, and I'm assuming that thay just don't understand what's happening, and I

Re: [discuss] Re: a more complete office suite

2005-11-15 Thread Steve Kopischke
I think it is high time to close this thread. There is significantly more childish taunting than real content at this point. SJK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [discuss] Re: Revision History

2005-11-12 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 11/12/05 10:35 'Randomthots' wrote: G. Roderick Singleton wrote: Hmm, does File Versions not fill your requirements? I think it should do the job. This is what I meant about the Help being inaccurate. On OO2, Windows version, I have no Versions menu item under File. I have Changes

Re: [discuss] Re: Manual available for OpenOffice.org 2.0

2005-11-04 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 11/04/05 07:52 'Johan Vromans' wrote: G. Roderick Singleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Legitimate authors do NOT need to spam mailing lists to generate sales. I think you are slightly overreacting. As far as I can see, Mary pointed us at a book that may be interesting for OOo people.

Re: [discuss] Re: On HTML mail and paying per byte, was: OOo Writer with Outlook?

2005-11-02 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 11/02/05 08:57 'mark' wrote: Randomthots wrote: snip What *I* get annoyed at is the attitude that just because some people in the world pay for Internet by the byte, that it's somehow wrong in principle to *ever* use technology like html e-mail. What if I want to send a nicely formatted

Re: [discuss] Re: On HTML mail and paying per byte, was: OOo Writer with Outlook?

2005-11-02 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 11/02/05 09:29 'mark' wrote: snip Yikes, mark - what got your undies in a bundle? Just because a rather Luddite approach to e-mail formatting is right for you, don't presume that it is right to everyone. Luddite means against all technology, or most advances. I've been doing email for

Re: [discuss] Google - no thanks

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 10/13/05 15:11 'Chad Smith' wrote: So you are saying that Google rapes people. Google kills people. Google pillages people's homes. You're out of your mind. It's a damn search engine. It doesn't even have a penis to rape with. On 10/13/05, Jonathon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chad

Re: [discuss] Google - no thanks

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Kopischke
OK, Chad. Fine. Be pedantic. Allow *me* to recap. on 10/13/05 17:23 'Chad Smith' wrote: On 10/13/05, *Steve Kopischke* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chad - you are intentionally misreading Jonathon's posts just to try and get a rise out of him

Re: [discuss] Suggestion

2005-10-10 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 10/10/05 09:00 'Nicolas Mailhot' wrote: Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 14:19 +0100, Alexandro Colorado a écrit : You can always uncheck it... ROTFL. I hope you're not serious. Bad and dangerous defaults have no place in mature software. I think it was Sun which spent lots of $$$ in

Re: [discuss] Suggestion

2005-10-10 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 10/10/05 11:27 'Nicolas Mailhot' wrote: Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 09:58 -0500, Steve Kopischke a écrit : Calling an option an excuse is just whining laziness masquerading as expertise. Change the value and move on. I stand by what I wrote. Making a behaviour optional is no excuse

Re: [discuss] Suggestion

2005-10-10 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 10/10/05 12:41 'Nicolas Mailhot' wrote: I have explained why this default is a problem. Twice. Have you anything to say on the subject except trolling on the message tone ? You claim this is a problem, but you have offered no objective data to back it up, only your opinion. I found it

Re: [discuss] openoffice available as an extension for firefox

2005-10-06 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 10/06/05 17:32 'Daniel Kasak' wrote: Nagarjunam Kancharla wrote: I was just thinking, wouldn't it be great if each tool of openoffice (writer, impress, math, draw) are available individually as an extension of firefox and available as one of the tabs. Its like you open the writer tab,

Re: [discuss] copernic and OO0

2005-10-04 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 10/04/05 13:00 'Larry Gusaas' wrote: It is simple to add .sxw or .odt file support to Copernic. Go to Options/Advanced. Click Add and put in the file type you want listed. Simple to include any file type not listed by default. While that technique will add the SXW/ODT file support to

Re: [discuss] Re: Beyond 2.0

2005-09-20 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 09/20/05 10:04 'Randomthots' wrote: Chad Smith wrote: My answer is - who cares? Why does it matter if it is a Blog or an online newspaper? Why does it matter if an office suite is defined a certain way or not? What we need to decide is, not what some mythological architypical OFFICE

Re: [discuss] Mail on desktop will only open with OE: Thunderbird wont open

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Kopischke
This is a common issue with Thunderbird. Messages saved as FILENAME.EML will not open in the Thunderbird e-mail client (it is not a browser) by double-clicking the file. You can, however, open such files from within Thunderbird via FileOpen. For support with Thunderbird, please visit

Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-24 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 07/24/05 12:07 'M. Fioretti' wrote: On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 12:36:31 PM -0400, Chad Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: if *YOU MARCO* won't do it, why the hell should anyone else? As already said, I have no computer which I can leave online 24/7, and this is not going to change. Is this

Re: [discuss] Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-24 Thread Steve Kopischke
Chad: on 07/24/05 14:20 'Chad Smith' wrote: [snip] The only drawback is that annoys *YOU*. And, I for one, am willing to live with that ineffectiveness. Priceless. Thank you. oldgnome - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-23 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 07/23/05 14:12 'Chad Smith' wrote: Marco, [snip] I say all of this to say, you're constant outcry for better email practices is a waste. All it does is create the very traffic and wasted bandwidth that you so desperately wish to stop. That, and it annoys people. At least it annoys

Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-23 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 07/23/05 14:33 'Ian Lynch' wrote: On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 15:12 -0400, Chad Smith wrote: At least it annoys me. I think you are missing the point. Its not disc space, but the sheer volume of mail to read and sort through on many lists. This is particulary so when the person posts is not

Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-23 Thread Steve Kopischke
Marco: Have you begun following the periodic threads about this topic? Every few weeks (was my attempt at humor that far off the mark), it seems, we have the same discussion - how do we deal with the unsubscribed? There is a need to let the list know the unsubscribed has been messaged - so

Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-23 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 07/23/05 16:14 'M. Fioretti' wrote: On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 15:27:52 PM -0500, Steve Kopischke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Marco: Have you begun following the periodic threads about this topic? Why, yes, for some years now, and I'm getting quite annoyed by the constant lack of good

Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-23 Thread Steve Kopischke
Marco: My apologies for getting your name wrong. Other than changing two i's for c's, the rant stands as posted. Ian: As a group, I think we're getting wrapped around the axle backwards here. The politeness being displayed by the replies being sent to the unsubscribed simultaneously with

Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

2005-07-23 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 07/23/05 17:49 'M. Fioretti' wrote: Isn't this translated to: we who are too lazy and uneducated to behave ourselves and make online fora more useful will continue to make a mess of the whole place? Is now a good time to remind you that you began this thread and that few have come to the

Re: [discuss] OT: Sunbird Calendar

2005-07-09 Thread Steve Kopischke
I, too, want to challenge Mr Hines' contention. The best way to contact anyone about Mozilla products is through the MozillaZine forums at: forums.mozillazine.org oldgnome on 07/09/05 12:46 'Alexandro Colorado' wrote: Quoting Eric Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone know how to

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-20 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 05/20/05 14:09 'Rigel' wrote: Okay. I am going to set a particular record straight here. Chad. You're right, and you're wrong. Jonathon. You're right, and you're... Sort of wrong. Rigel: Thanks for setting the record straight. Jonathan, Chad, et al: Can we put this one to bed now. Please?

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-18 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 05/18/05 15:07 'Chad Smith' wrote: On 5/18/05, Maria Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for example: - 200 licenses for Office at a cost of $66,000 (approximate OEM cost) - 10 macros that will cost a total of $20,000 to transition - A necessary upgrade that will cost just slightly more to deploy

Re: [discuss] Re: Reason corporates won't touch OO.o

2005-05-18 Thread Steve Kopischke
on 05/18/05 16:18 'M. Fioretti' wrote: I think that you have no exact idea of how most big companies and big public administrations work. I'm *not* saying the list above does always make sense, but it *is* how many big organization decide. Private individuals and small businesses are an entirely

Re: [discuss] Suggestion for Cross File (Global) Search

2005-05-03 Thread Steve Kopischke
I think that might be a better feature at the operating system level, rather than in an application suite - I'd rather be able to search across *all* files, not just OOo. For example, WinXP Pro found a phrase I just searched in a couple of ODT documents I recently created, using the Search

Re: [discuss] Ideas for Open office

2005-04-30 Thread Steve Kopischke
In OOo, it's called an XY chart. oldgnome 'Michael Posa.' wrote on 04/30/05 10:09: Dear Openoffice, I am studying engineering I would just like to suggest a very important feature (in my opinion) for the open office spreadsheet program - many engineers and scientists need to make graphs on two

Re: [discuss] German File Dialog Labels?

2005-04-26 Thread Steve Kopischke
How about that - I see the same thing. I haven't put 1.9.95 through its paces much yet since installing - just editing an existing file. Interesting. 'Trevor Farlow' wrote on 04/26/05 02:24: Has anyone else noticed German text labels at the bottom of file manipulation dialog boxes in English

Re: [discuss] Base should be renamed

2005-04-21 Thread Steve Kopischke
Arthur Buijs wrote the following: To write a document use Writer To do your calculations use Calc To present an idea use (Im)pres To manage your data use ... Um... Mange? No, that's not quite right, either oldgnome - To

Re: [discuss] Email Client

2005-04-19 Thread Steve Kopischke
Mike: Have you tried taking your problem to the MozillaZine Thunderbird Support forum @ http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=39 ? I'm pretty sure the solution might be fairly quick and easy. oldgnome Mike Finley said the following on : To All, I am an avid user of the Open Office,

Re: [discuss] crash

2005-04-17 Thread Steve Kopischke
Adrian: I am sorry to hear you lost three hours of work. However, are you aware that the software you were using is BETA software? Under normal circumstances, BETA software should never be used in any kind of production environment. oldgnome adrian Greeman said the following on : I spent three

Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Support on the Users List

2005-04-13 Thread Steve Kopischke
Diane Mackay said the following: Cyrille Moureaux wrote: [...] I think on the other hand the user should not have the feeling s/he's been redirected from one place to the other without much gain each time (Welcome to the IRC channel, sorry there are mostly developers/builders here, please join

Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Support on the Users List

2005-04-13 Thread Steve Kopischke
Diane Mackay said the following on : See Daniel, here too suggests that the expectations may be too high. I can see after reading Steve's message again, that I drew my conclusion about my own expectations from both your's and Steve's responses... I think that I drew a fair conclusion,

Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Support on the Users List

2005-04-13 Thread Steve Kopischke
Daniel Carrera said the following on : Steve Kopischke wrote: Can you suggest an electronic, collaborative environment where such a diagramming dialogue can take place? If it is useful, feel free to use http://oooauthors.org for that purpose. Daniel: Thanks. Diane: What are your thoughts

Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Support on the Users List

2005-04-13 Thread Steve Kopischke
Diane Mackay said the following on : Steve Kopischke wrote: Diane: What are your thoughts? oldgnome Hi oldgnome (way cool name by the way!), Thanks. It comes from a time when I took 16 of my employees on a ropes course team-building exercise. I was 20+ years older than almost all of them

Re: [discuss] OpenOffice.org Support on the Users List

2005-04-12 Thread Steve Kopischke
Ric Hayman said the following: Diane Mackay wrote: Hi, I am writing to point out some of a recent users list thread and to open the discussion here. There has been a huge discussion ongoing for about three days on the users list, and I believe threads like this are detrimental to the value of

[discuss] Hey Chad....

2005-04-04 Thread Steve Kopischke
Chad - I misplaced the message from earlier today about greenzap or was it zapgreen...(and can't find your e-mail adress). Could you send me the link? Many thanks! oldgnome - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For