[discuss] Re: People trying to make money on openoffice.org
Daniel Winje wrote: hi there, I just wanted to let you fine people over at openoffice.org to know that there are people out there trying to make money in your name. how do i know this? well i was sufring the net and looking for a new edition of openoffice when i i came over this site witch was telling you how good openoffice is and sutch (witch i allready know) and they posted a link to a download (by all means this is quite normal, witch was my thoughs at the time) so i klicked on the link and starte the download witch was described to be 141 mb but was only 665kb or something, odd. then i scaned it for virus and sutch, all ok and then i opened it to find out that it was a downloader (never seen an openoffice downloader before) and my thought was oh well ok, this is new, so i klicked my way through it and then it asked me to send a text message to 1963 with the message MAP so that i would get a code to unlock the download. Thing is that it costs you 40 kr (says so in the downloader) to send the message, about 4 € if 1€ = 10 kr (not sure at the moment). SO, what the fuck? hehe Could not see that you in any way had agreed to it, so i thought i would lett you know :) heres a link to the site: http://studio-no.net/openoffice.php its in norwegian sadly. any how, Thanks for your time. -Daniel Winje Thanks for the information. Will pass it on. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: People trying to make money on openoffice.org
Daniel Winje wrote: hi there, I just wanted to let you fine people over at openoffice.org to know that there are people out there trying to make money in your name. how do i know this? well i was sufring the net and looking for a new edition of openoffice when i i came over this site witch was telling you how good openoffice is and sutch (witch i allready know) and they posted a link to a download (by all means this is quite normal, witch was my thoughs at the time) so i klicked on the link and starte the download witch was described to be 141 mb but was only 665kb or something, odd. then i scaned it for virus and sutch, all ok and then i opened it to find out that it was a downloader (never seen an openoffice downloader before) and my thought was oh well ok, this is new, so i klicked my way through it and then it asked me to send a text message to 1963 with the message MAP so that i would get a code to unlock the download. Thing is that it costs you 40 kr (says so in the downloader) to send the message, about 4 € if 1€ = 10 kr (not sure at the moment). SO, what the fuck? hehe Could not see that you in any way had agreed to it, so i thought i would lett you know :) heres a link to the site: http://studio-no.net/openoffice.php its in norwegian sadly. any how, Thanks for your time. -Daniel Winje Let me do this again. First is not illegal to sell open source software, companies do it all the time. The problem comes in if they represent themselves as the developer of the program, in this case OpenOffice.org. They also have to have at least as link to the source so that anyone can download it. I do not understand Norwegian so I can not tell how close they are crossing the line. I have send a message to the new development team at ooo-...@incubator.apache.org to see if someone can look into it. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: People trying to make money on openoffice.org
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 16:50, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: They also have to have at least as link to the source so that anyone can download it. I do not understand Norwegian so I can not tell how close they are crossing the line. What is amazing is that people continue to do these kind of things without knowing that someone, someday, is going to find out and report back to the developers FC -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: People trying to make money on openoffice.org
On 8/23/2011 4:18 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 16:50, RA Brownrabr...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: They also have to have at least as link to the source so that anyone can download it. I do not understand Norwegian so I can not tell how close they are crossing the line. What is amazing is that people continue to do these kind of things without knowing that someone, someday, is going to find out and report back to the developers FC I used Google translate to see the page in English. I found no reference to authorship on the page I looked at. There also is no link to the source apparent, but I had to go looking for the the source for OO.o and LO. All that is required (I think I have this right) that the source code be made available at a cost no greater than actual cost of providing it. For binaries, you can charge what the market will bear. Not the GPL's words, but close. As I recall, the FSF charged a chunk of money (perhaps a couple hundred?) in the mid 80s for tapes of Emacs and Gnu C sources. That was a hell of a lot of money back then. My point is: It is not illegal to sell binaries if the source is made available, and the authors are acknowledged. Is either of these being done? --David Teague -- nil significat nisi oscillat Do wop, do wop, do wop Duke Ellington -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
On 08/23/2011 08:53 AM, RA Brown wrote: To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers: There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if you depend on these list for support. If not and are willing to use forums that is also needs to be known. The answer is quite simple: notify all posters in the thread that their current thread all further ooo-...@incubator.apache.org discussions will be closed immediately and transferred to a web forum site instead. Oh, and by the way, it may take 1-2 months to get the new forum setup. See what their reaction is... -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:37 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 08/23/2011 08:53 AM, RA Brown wrote: To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers: There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if you depend on these list for support. If not and are willing to use forums that is also needs to be known. The answer is quite simple: notify all posters in the thread that their current thread all further ooo-...@incubator.apache.org discussions will be closed immediately and transferred to a web forum site instead. Oh, and by the way, it may take 1-2 months to get the new forum setup. See what their reaction is... hmm - no one is saying no mailing lists, it is about how many. Most of the conversation, currently, is about the user mailing list. As for needing months to setup a forum - really? They are on-line today..have been for years. You can even choose which one you want to use, or none. //drew -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
Robert Derman wrote: RA Brown wrote: To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers: There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if you depend on these list for support. If not and are willing to use forums that is also needs to be known. An archived copy of the tread starts at: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3ccap-ksogauskq+6kchq7oyv-3utjllyzr5xnv53vh+n6y7s9...@mail.gmail.com%3E You will have to go through the thread to find the messages related to the uses@ and discuss@ list. To subscribe to the list send a message to: ooo-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org To post a message, if not subscribed it will go to a moderator: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org The main web page is at: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ Hope to see you there. Andy I guess that the only reason that I am still subscribed to this list is that I never bothered to unsubscribe. The list that I pay the most attention to now is Discuss @TDF. Hi Robert, Of course that is your choice and not a problem. I was only trying to get the word out that the OOo related list maybe going away if no one speaks up. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: User related mailing list
drew jensen wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 17:37 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 08/23/2011 08:53 AM, RA Brown wrote: To all Users@ and Discuss@ mailing list subscribers: There are discussions going on at the ooo-...@incubator.apache.org . These discussions relate to where the mailing list are needed are not. We are needing feedback so please let the mailing list at Apache know if you depend on these list for support. If not and are willing to use forums that is also needs to be known. The answer is quite simple: notify all posters in the thread that their current thread all further ooo-...@incubator.apache.org discussions will be closed immediately and transferred to a web forum site instead. Oh, and by the way, it may take 1-2 months to get the new forum setup. See what their reaction is... hmm - no one is saying no mailing lists, it is about how many. Most of the conversation, currently, is about the user mailing list. As for needing months to setup a forum - really? They are on-line today..have been for years. You can even choose which one you want to use, or none. //drew Hi Drew, He was only kidding. I get were he is coming from with it though and wish I had thought of it. :) If there is not some input from those that use the list, it will go away. Andy -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
