Re: PPIG discuss: What plan? -- terminology thread

2001-05-03 Thread Thomas Green TryingOut ConnectFree
Andrew Walenstein is raising important and useful points here. As far as I'm concerned, whatever the mental representation of a program might be, it's just a special case of mental representations in general. We need to consider representations not only of Pascal programs but also of OO, logic,

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan? --- evidence thread

2001-05-03 Thread Professor Russel Winder
If by understanding a program one means holding the entire representation in internal memory (short or long) at once, then I concede that one can never understand a program; by similar reasoning, one can never understand history, medicine, or psychology either. The use of some kind of

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan? Was: Funding, Was Mixing decimal hexadecimal

2001-05-03 Thread Professor Russel Winder
Derek, Ugh, OO design. With so many competing ideas and each language having different ways of structuring classes and inheritance, which seems to influence so many peoples views on how to do it, I am staying well away from this issue. I think this is a bad idea. Love it or hate it, OO

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan?

2001-05-03 Thread Andrew Walenstein
An example of a simple plan is a simple find plan: iterate through the set test each set member to see if it is the target; if it is, end the iteration Most computer scientists would (hopefully) call this the linear search algorithm -- and therefore be very worried about using

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan? --- evidence thread

2001-05-02 Thread Thomas Green
Andrew Walenstein wrote WRT Ruven Brooks: in your own IJCAI'75 paper you proposed a model in which an external goal stack partly replaces the internal goal stack of the programmer (this model predates the Parsing-Gnisrap model by a decade) Yes, embarrassing, isn't it? And here am I

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan? Was: Funding, Was Mixing decimal hexadecimal

2001-05-02 Thread Derek M Jones
Robert, Just seen your latest post. I did receive your first one, but wanted to reread some of your paper before replying (my learning curve in cognitive psychology has been very steep and I have probably forgotten lots already). I see that you are also a fan of Eiffel. What a well thought

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan?

2001-05-02 Thread Robert Rist
Given the previous discussions on plan, as in plan of action, and plan, as in schema or pattern, I am a little confused. Are you using plan in both senses of the word here? A plan can be discussed as a knowledge structure, or it can be executed. I can tell you how I make breakfast,

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan?

2001-05-01 Thread Alan Blackwell
In this way, the design of a program emerges, more than being planned, We should be careful not to confuse a term coined to describe a specific research hypothesis in cognitive psychology - the programming plan hypothesis - with the vernacular uses of the individual words

RE: PPIG discuss: What plan?

2001-05-01 Thread Brooks, Ruven
I think there's some confusion here about what a programming plan is; it's like an architect's plan for a house, not a plan for accomplishing a task. Schema or pattern might be a alternate term. An example of a simple plan is a simple find plan: iterate through the set test each set