RE: PPIG discuss: teaching kids to program

2007-07-31 Thread Enda Dunican
Hi all We had a discussion regarding this at PPIG 2007 in Joensuu. In my opinion there is too much emphasis on Lego Mindstorms and introducing kids to programming using robots. I was at a meeting once where someone professed that if you aren't interested in Mindstorms or robots you won't be

RE: PPIG discuss: teaching kids to program

2007-07-31 Thread Guzdial, Mark
We're seeing a lot of use of both Alice and the new MIT Scratch with children. We're successfully using Python for media computation with children as young as 11 years old. Mark

RE: PPIG discuss: teaching kids to program

2007-07-31 Thread Ruven E Brooks
Can anyone point me to any research results that show that teaching kids to program has any transfer to other areas? Last I followed this kind of thing, the results were negative - teaching programming doesn't have any more of a beneficial effect on, say, mathematics than time spent directly on

Re: PPIG discuss: teaching kids to program

2007-07-31 Thread Alan Blackwell
Marian Petre and I have written a paper, to be presented at VL/ HCC 2007, which sets out to describe what kids *actually* want to program, as opposed to what adults think would be good for them. Anyone who wants a preview, I'm sure Marian won't mind if I offer preview copies to anyone who

Re: FW: PPIG discuss: teaching kids to program

2007-07-31 Thread pgut001
Walter Milner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A while back Papert in Mindstorms proposed that young children be taught to program in Logo, and that this would enhance their cognitive development and expose them to 'powerful ideas'. I don't know if the programming language has as much of an impact as