Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-15 Thread Omar Rassi
Lets not forget that even if we design the best and fastest network, what keeps people is the customer service and support provided. How will the city handle that aspect of being an ISP? Would the city contract with a third party or hire their own service techs and phone support department? What

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-15 Thread Chris Egeland
Where is everyone? It's just Jimmy, Torrie and I down here. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:38, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Lets not forget that even if we design the best and fastest network, what keeps people is the customer service and support provided. How

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-15 Thread alex kot
I can show up around 3ish. I stated earlier in this thread if we could push the date/time around. -- On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 12:47 PM EST Chris Egeland wrote: Where is everyone? It's just Jimmy, Torrie and I down here. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2014,

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread Justin Herman
I wish someone would start the wireless project back-up. Even if the gear was older it seems to reason that scaling back the service area could result in proper saturation. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:27:05

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread dave walton
FYI - it's been a couple years, but the last time I got quotes for higher-end throughput I was looking at ~ $10,000 per month for a gigabit connection. 100Mb was ~ $1500. That was through Level 3 and did not include the fiber loop or routers. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Torrie Fischer

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread Justin Herman
SPEAKERS BUREAU! On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:11 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure why you guys haven't brought this up to me for discussion. I haven been Beta testing a decentralized wireless mesh protocol at an apartment complex. I gave a speech about this method at Akron

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Friday, February 14, 2014 08:11:16 alex kot wrote: Not sure why you guys haven't brought this up to me for discussion. I haven been Beta testing a decentralized wireless mesh protocol at an apartment complex. I gave a speech about this method at Akron Linux User Group

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread alex kot
Can you push it till later on Saturday, like 5 PM?  Also after open house I wouldn't mind doing a Speakers Bureau presentation.  I applied for NotACon on this topic two days ago, this would be a good demo before then (if I get in). On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:26 AM, Torrie Fischer

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread Jimmy Carter
Id love to help in any way I can. Seems like a really neat idea. KG4SGP - Jim On February 14, 2014 11:25:39 AM EST, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Friday, February 14, 2014 08:11:16 alex kot wrote: Not sure why you guys haven't brought this up to me for discussion. I

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread Justin Herman
I am here to help also. I know a metro fiber ring was being talked about between Involta, UA, Bridgestone, and Akron General. (2 years ago) Not sure if anything with that has moved forward could help us. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jimmy Carter kg4...@gmail.com wrote: Id love to help

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread Ricky Elrod
On 02/14/2014 10:24 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote: Tomorrow (Saturday the 15th) at Noon, we're getting together at SYNHAK to start organizing a plan to be presented at Akron City Council for creating a munincipal ISP. I will try to be there. -Ricky signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread alex kot
Torrie you are probably correct about intense mismanagement, though the project started in 2008 most wireless mesh standards were not fully developed then, even OLSR was a baby at that time. That grandiose plan soon was scaled back to 12 square miles, but the system never worked decently even

Re: [SH-Discuss] Building a munincipal ISP

2014-02-14 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:03:09 alex kot wrote: Prices are about the same, though for $4,700 a month you can get an unmanaged Gigabit. With a decentralized approach you can drop in different backbone Tier 1 internet from various providers.