Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Issues installing GNUradio using PYBOMBS (e3xx-custom-uhd or e3xx-rfnoc)

2018-04-02 Thread Philip Balister
On 04/02/2018 06:58 PM, Marcus D. Leech wrote: > On 04/02/2018 06:09 PM, Philip Balister wrote: >> On 04/02/2018 05:01 PM, MASDR GS wrote: >>> I'm having issues with installing GNU radio using PYBOMBS. It >>> successfully >>> installs the SDK and UHD but once it reaches to GNU Radio I receive a >>>

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Issues installing GNUradio using PYBOMBS (e3xx-custom-uhd or e3xx-rfnoc)

2018-04-02 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 04/02/2018 06:09 PM, Philip Balister wrote: On 04/02/2018 05:01 PM, MASDR GS wrote: I'm having issues with installing GNU radio using PYBOMBS. It successfully installs the SDK and UHD but once it reaches to GNU Radio I receive a missing python six message. I have been using this guide from Et

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Issues installing GNUradio using PYBOMBS (e3xx-custom-uhd or e3xx-rfnoc)

2018-04-02 Thread Philip Balister
On 04/02/2018 05:01 PM, MASDR GS wrote: > I'm having issues with installing GNU radio using PYBOMBS. It successfully > installs the SDK and UHD but once it reaches to GNU Radio I receive a > missing python six message. I have been using this guide from Ettus for > reference. > > https://kb.ettus.c

[Discuss-gnuradio] Issues installing GNUradio using PYBOMBS (e3xx-custom-uhd or e3xx-rfnoc)

2018-04-02 Thread MASDR GS
I'm having issues with installing GNU radio using PYBOMBS. It successfully installs the SDK and UHD but once it reaches to GNU Radio I receive a missing python six message. I have been using this guide from Ettus for reference. https://kb.ettus.com/Software_Development_on_the_E310_and_E312#Prepara

[Discuss-gnuradio] Help with using gnuradio c++ api

2018-04-02 Thread Snehasish Kar
Hello I was trying to generate a flow graph using file source descriptor and a file sink. But after generating the output instead of writing to the file, it prints the output in the screen. Below is the code. Please let me know where I am going wrong. gr::blocks::file_descriptor_source::sp

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Andy Walls
On Mon, 2018-04-02 at 13:44 -0400, Andy Walls wrote: > > All PLL based symbol clock recovery blocks/methods in GNURadio > require > symbol centers to be peaked. Slight correction. The MSK TED's don't require the input pulses to be peaked, but that's because they operate on the FM'ed pulses, and

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Andy Walls
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 09:48:00 +0100 > From: Thomas Habets > Hi. > > As an experiment I'm trying to decode an FT8 signal I've captured. > I've > gotten far enough that I can clearly see the packet ( > https://blog.habets.se/tmp/ft8_packet.png), but now I want to > actually turn > that into bits.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Jeff Long
On 04/02/2018 07:51 AM, Thomas Habets wrote: It is indeed an amateur M-FSK. Like I said it's FT8[1] which is 8FSK, and was captured at 14.074MHz. I've captured some 20m, 30m, and 40m (at the same time, because 10Msps is enough for that) and the goal is not so much actually learning what the m

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Adrian Musceac
Thanks, hadn't seen it. I'm afraid it's a little over my head right now. Adrian On April 2, 2018 1:08:35 PM UTC, Anon Lister wrote: >I don't know if you saw his presentation but Andy Walls did a talk on >the >new clock recovery block he wrote to address issues he had with >existing >ones. I beli

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Anon Lister
I don't know if you saw his presentation but Andy Walls did a talk on the new clock recovery block he wrote to address issues he had with existing ones. I believe it's in tree now? https://www.gnuradio.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Andy-Walls-Samples-to-Digital-Symbols.pdf On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 0

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Adrian Musceac
I should add that the main problem I face is getting it synchronized fast enough for short bursts. Adrian On April 2, 2018 11:54:21 AM UTC, Thomas Habets wrote: >I just seem to recall that being said. > >I've used M&M successfully in the past, but it does require some >massaging >of the data to

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Adrian Musceac
Hi Thomas, I use it for 4FSK, it does work, not optimally it seems, but I attribute that to my lack of understandimg of the algorithm. Regarding the square wave issue, I use a low pass filter in front of it with bandwidth = samp-rate / samples-per-symbol. Regards, Adrian On April 2, 2018 11:54

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Thomas Habets
I just seem to recall that being said. I've used M&M successfully in the past, but it does require some massaging of the data to not be "square wave" before it'll work. Also does it work (well) for M-FSK? On 2 April 2018 at 11:16, Adrian Musceac wrote: > Hi, > > Why is the M&M algorithm discour

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Thomas Habets
It is indeed an amateur M-FSK. Like I said it's FT8[1] which is 8FSK, and was captured at 14.074MHz. I've captured some 20m, 30m, and 40m (at the same time, because 10Msps is enough for that) and the goal is not so much actually learning what the messages are as learning to decode them. I use fldig

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Thomas Habets
I don't think there's a preamble. Yeah it looks good except @4.75s into the screenshot where it's half one bit, half another. But that should be fine. There's supposed to be lots of redundancy in the protocol so I should be able to extract it. I think where it jumps around it's just noise. On 2 A

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Jeff Long
The gr-op25 code handles 4FSK. The demod and slicer code might be expanded to 8FSK. On 04/02/2018 06:22 AM, Jeff Long wrote: This looks like an amateur M-FSK signal. You might have luck with fldigi and save yourself some work. It uses FFTs and then analyzes frequency shifts. You could do some

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Jeff Long
This looks like an amateur M-FSK signal. You might have luck with fldigi and save yourself some work. It uses FFTs and then analyzes frequency shifts. You could do some of this in GR, but syncing to the signal would be hard because you would miss a few transitions trying to get synced. On 04/0

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Adrian Musceac
Hi, Why is the M&M algorithm discouraged? I use successfully both in FSK and PSK demodulators. It seems to perform fine. Regards, Adrian On April 2, 2018 8:48:00 AM UTC, Thomas Habets wrote: >Hi. > >As an experiment I'm trying to decode an FT8 signal I've captured. I've >gotten far enough that

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Marcus Müller
Hi Thomas, This is a very nice demodulation! Congratulations! Regarding frequency sync: I count roughly 80 bits in your packet. Is there some synchronization preamble perhaps in the beginning, where the quad demod jumps around? Best regards, Marcus On 2 April 2018 10:48:00 GMT+02:00, Thomas H

[Discuss-gnuradio] Best in-tree blocks for clock recovery of 8FSK

2018-04-02 Thread Thomas Habets
Hi. As an experiment I'm trying to decode an FT8 signal I've captured. I've gotten far enough that I can clearly see the packet ( https://blog.habets.se/tmp/ft8_packet.png), but now I want to actually turn that into bits. I know it's 8FSK (the above screenshot is quad demod of that), but I have a