Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-26 Thread lists
From: Marcus MüllerSent: Monday, June 26, 2017 9:18 AMTo: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.orgSubject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm Hi! I f

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-26 Thread Marcus Müller
id, dk5ras > *Sent: *Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:44 PM > *To: *'Murat Aksu'; Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > *Subject: *Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm > > > Well, dBm is an absolute power, based on 0dBm = 1mW. The dB figures of > your receiver are only relative values, they

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-26 Thread lists
: Ralph A. Schmid, dk5rasSent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:44 PMTo: 'Murat Aksu'; Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.orgSubject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBmWell, dBm is an absolute power, based on 0dBm = 1mW. The dB figures of your receiver are only relative values, they have no meaning

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-26 Thread Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras
[mailto:muratc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:58 PM To: Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm Dear Ralph, Thank you so much for your support. I really do not understand these dB values. When I inject 802.11g signal with -20 dBm power level and 20 dB

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-22 Thread Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras
017 10:48 PM > To: Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm > > I am already aware of what the maximum allowable receiver power which is -5 > dBm. That is why I am starting from 0 dBm with 20 dB attenuator before > injecting it to the HackRF One. > > &g

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread GNUBeginner
I am already aware of what the maximum allowable receiver power which is -5 dBm. That is why I am starting from 0 dBm with 20 dB attenuator before injecting it to the HackRF One. -- View this message in context: http://gnuradio.4.n7.nabble.com/dB-or-dBm-tp64323p64335.html Sent from the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread lists
Message   From: GNUBeginner Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:57 AM To: Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm How could I generate this simple sinusoidal signal with fixed frequency and amplitude using Anritsu MG3710A? -- View this message in context: http://gnuradio

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread GNUBeginner
How could I generate this simple sinusoidal signal with fixed frequency and amplitude using Anritsu MG3710A? -- View this message in context: http://gnuradio.4.n7.nabble.com/dB-or-dBm-tp64323p64333.html Sent from the GnuRadio mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread Gilad Beeri (ApolloShield)
Yes - he meant a constant tone, a simple sinusoidal signal with fixed frequency and amplitude (Acos(wt)). And you can't measure the power directly. What you can measure is the graph (function) between the injected power (as determined in your signal source) to those strange dB values. After you

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread Ron Economos
-20 dBm is a pretty strong signal. You're probably over driving your SDR into compression. I would use a larger value attenuator or reduce the levels from the signal generator. Ron On 06/21/2017 08:55 AM, GNUBeginner wrote: Thank you for your detailed message. Please correct me if I am on

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread GNUBeginner
Also, how could I measure power? The program is giving some strange dB values... -- View this message in context: http://gnuradio.4.n7.nabble.com/dB-or-dBm-tp64323p64330.html Sent from the GnuRadio mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread GNUBeginner
When you say constant tone, you mean some sinusoidal signal with fixed frequency using Anritsu vector signal generator? Any suggestions generating this signal with VSG? -- View this message in context: http://gnuradio.4.n7.nabble.com/dB-or-dBm-tp64323p64329.html Sent from the GnuRadio mailing

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread Julian Arnold
Hey, as has been said previously, it depends on the type of signal you are observing how you would need to characterize and measure its power. For example, your signal will change over time depending on your payload data which you need to consider. You would also need to consider the bandwidth of

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread GNUBeginner
Thank you for your detailed message. Please correct me if I am on the wrong path. I am injecting 802.11g signal using Vector Signal Generator at different power levels (0 dBm, -5 dBm, -10 dBm, -15 dBm and -20 dBm) using 20 dB attenuator. After running gr-scan with RF gain 0 dB option at the first

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread Gilad Beeri (ApolloShield)
Marcus explained it better than me in your previous email, but in general, those SDR devices aren't calibrated devices, as in you (the user) can't infer from the sample value the signal power, so the apps (e.g., QSpectrumAnalyzer) can't tell you anything about dBm (power) values, only dB values

[Discuss-gnuradio] dB or dBm

2017-06-21 Thread GNUBeginner
Hello Everybody, Could anyone please try to explain to me why I am seeing dB values instead of dBm in the spectrum analyzer GUIs such as QSpectrumAnalyzer or spectrum scan programs such as gr-scan or hackrf_sweep. Because when I inject a signal with -15 dBm power using 20 dB attenuator (no loss