Re: Steven P. Jobs 1955-2011: Here's to the crazy one who inspired us all...

2011-10-11 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 01:37, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: I'm indifferent, but I find that many of my users are strongly opposed to the GPLv3. Why are they opposed to it? Is it because of the part that bans tivoization? It may also be the patent

Re: Steven P. Jobs 1955-2011: Here's to the crazy one who inspired us all...

2011-10-11 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I pondered a reply to this for some days. I originally read Richard Stallman's blog post and just kept my mouth shut. But after the discussion here on the mailing list, I'll state my opinion with some context. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm

Re: Steven P. Jobs 1955-2011: Here's to the crazy one who inspired us all...

2011-10-11 Thread Richard Stallman
LLVM has been great for the GCC community. It forced them to get competitive. The whole open source community benefits from faster compilers and choice. Please keep in mind that this project is not about open source. GNU is part of the free software movement, whose goal is that

Re: Steven P. Jobs 1955-2011: Here's to the crazy one who inspired us all...

2011-10-11 Thread Richard Stallman
It may also be the patent clause. I personally am opposed to software patents (especially the farce they are today), but I suspect the patent clause is as much of a reason as is the anti-tivoization clause. It could be so. Either way, I think it means that they are operating as part

releases for gorm or projectcenter??

2011-10-11 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
Hi, usually the openbsd ports build with gcc-4.2.1 and the libobjc that comes with it. I plan to switch the ports to use clang/libobjc2 instead. I tried to compile the latest releases of gorm and projectcenter with clang/libobjc2. However, they fail to compile. I know they compile fine when

Re: releases for gorm or projectcenter??

2011-10-11 Thread Gregory Casamento
I am going to make a release tonight or tomorrow of Gorm. I was holding up the release because I wanted to correct some longstanding issues, but I will need to get those done in an intermediate release. GC On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Sebastian Reitenbach sebas...@l00-bugdead-prods.de

Re: releases for gorm or projectcenter??

2011-10-11 Thread Fred Kiefer
On 11.10.2011 18:16, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: usually the openbsd ports build with gcc-4.2.1 and the libobjc that comes with it. I plan to switch the ports to use clang/libobjc2 instead. I tried to compile the latest releases of gorm and projectcenter with clang/libobjc2. However, they fail

Re: releases for gorm or projectcenter??

2011-10-11 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: Hi, usually the openbsd ports build with gcc-4.2.1 and the libobjc that comes with it. I plan to switch the ports to use clang/libobjc2 instead. I tried to compile the latest releases of gorm and projectcenter with clang/libobjc2. However, they fail to

Re: releases for gorm or projectcenter??

2011-10-11 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 19:37 CEST, Fred Kiefer fredkie...@gmx.de wrote: On 11.10.2011 18:16, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: usually the openbsd ports build with gcc-4.2.1 and the libobjc that comes with it. I plan to switch the ports to use clang/libobjc2 instead. I tried to

FOSDEM 2012 (Call for Devrooms)

2011-10-11 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Hi GNUsteppers, the annual call for Devrooms for the next FOSDEM is out: Von: Pascal Bleser pble...@fosdem.org Datum: 27. September 2011 21:48:47 MESZ An: fos...@lists.fosdem.org Betreff: [FOSDEM] FOSDEM 2012 Call for Devrooms Antwort an: FOSDEM announcements and visitor questions

Re: Steven P. Jobs 1955-2011: Here's to the crazy one who inspired us all...

2011-10-11 Thread Lucas Holt
On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: It may also be the patent clause. I personally am opposed to software patents (especially the farce they are today), but I suspect the patent clause is as much of a reason as is the anti-tivoization clause. It could be so. The