Re: GNUstep on Hackernews

2021-12-23 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 00:07, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > Excellent article, but I have to say that saying GNUstep as an > implementation of NeXTSTEP is half our issue. It would be better to say it > is an implementation of Cocoa. Thank you! It was only a brief mention and the piece was

Re: People think we are for nostalgics or dead.

2021-12-23 Thread Daniel Boyd
It’s funny. I originally got into GNUStep because I’m a history buff and the NeXT era of Steve Job’s career fascinates me. I was and still am fascinated by how modern it is, despite most of the concepts dating back to like 1990. I expected GNUStep to be a window into the early days of

Re: People think we are for nostalgics or dead.

2021-12-23 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 23.12.2021 um 14:44 schrieb Gustavo Tavares : > > What do I love most about Cocoa? [note: here I read "Cocoa" more precisely as "Objective-C + Base/GUI-Frameworks". There was a JAVA binding for Apple Cocoa long time ago which I did not love equally well.] > You can actually read your

Re: People think we are for nostalgics or dead.

2021-12-23 Thread Gustavo Tavares
So GNUstep makes it pretty clear "The framework closely follows Apple's Cocoa APIs and is portable to a variety of platforms and architectures." But what I would love—more than trying to play "catch-up" is to also sell people on the idea of Cocoa. "Switch from Apple" is a feature—not the reason

Re: linking with mold

2021-12-23 Thread Andreas Fink
H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote on 23.12.21 09:33: > >> Am 22.12.2021 um 12:57 schrieb Andreas Fink : >> >> I'm happy in terms of functionality with gold linker but linking my >> projects is quite slow. My projects has around five thousands source >> files. All very small but still lots of them. So

Re: GNUstep on Hackernews

2021-12-23 Thread Gregory Casamento
Hugo, Yes, I know this. The point is that between Foundation and AppKit, almost all of the classes and methods which were missing (up to 10.15) have been written by myself and others over the last few years. We have a CoreData, and CoreGraphics (Opal) implementation, granted the last two are

Re: GNUstep on Hackernews

2021-12-23 Thread Xavier Brochard
Le 22.12.2021 23:00, Ivan Vučica a écrit : I mean here's a realistic wishlist: - A desktop session - ship a package that contains /usr/share/xsessions/gnustep-desktop.desktop e.g. 'gnustep-session' or 'gnustep-desktop-session' - have it start our chosen WM, gworkspace with dock, a global

Re: GNUstep on Hackernews

2021-12-23 Thread Hugo Melder
Cocoa is not only AppKit but also the CoreGraphics and CoreData Integration. We have no upstream Integration for the newer frameworks. On December 23, 2021 1:01:43 AM GMT+01:00, Gregory Casamento wrote: >On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 18:13 Ivan Vučica wrote: > >> Well, some parts of. > >

Re: linking with mold

2021-12-23 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 22.12.2021 um 12:57 schrieb Andreas Fink : > > I'm happy in terms of functionality with gold linker but linking my > projects is quite slow. My projects has around five thousands source > files. All very small but still lots of them. So linking is taking most > of the time when I modify