Re: Native widgets (was: Re: So, honestly, is GNUStep a viable development option?)

2007-11-16 Thread Renaud Molla
I think everybody on this mailing list knows that there are GNUstep users that do not really care about that. However there are people who care on the list, and the outside world cares about it too. Our architecture makes it difficult to implement this. Each widget in GNUstep draws

Re: Native widgets (was: Re: So, honestly, is GNUStep a viable development option?)

2007-11-15 Thread Renaud Molla
I think that anyone thinking that GNUstep can be successful without a look that appears traditional to users within their environment and a behavior that somewhat closely mimic it too is deluding himself. To anyone doubtful about this I'll give the following examples: - Apple after buying

Re: Native widgets (was: Re: So, honestly, is GNUStep a viable development option?)

2007-11-15 Thread Renaud Molla
(...) I personally have no problem with non-native look of an application in an environment as long as the application itself is cool and powerful. I think everybody on this mailing list knows that there are GNUstep users that do not really care about that. However there are people who care

Re: GNUstep slogan - discussion and voting

2007-11-14 Thread Renaud Molla
Frankly, of all the slogan that have been proposed, all were sounding like creepy engineer seminars captions, as some stated it sounds microsoft-like, that is, words that are supposed to please a majority of people, but don't mean anything. Microsoft reaches the mass and wanna be seen as cool

Re: GNUstep slogan - discussion and voting

2007-11-12 Thread Renaud Molla
Hi everyone, A GNUstep for a man, a giant leap in Userland. That doesn't mean much but the reference to Neil Armstrong is obvious (at least to me). Regards. On Nov 12, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 12 Nov 2007, at 11:28, Daniel Santos wrote: Now I get it. The

Re: GNUstep theming (was Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard)

2007-11-12 Thread Renaud Molla
Dear All, To begin with, I'd like to say that this mail contains what some might consider being criticism. This is true. Criticism is not welcome but is necessary. This is the base of science, this is the base of marketing. But all I want is GNUstep (and actually OpenStep) to come back

Re: burtyoung's official website

2007-04-04 Thread Renaud Molla
Is this spam? I just can't see where's the relation with GNUstep. Is the website running on gnustep? Regards. On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:33 AM, santa v wrote: The awaited launch of Burt Young's official website is now available on the Internet for the public. The website has become a literal

Re: TIFFRpresentation problem

2007-03-08 Thread Renaud Molla
You're right. It's got to be synchronized each time one tries to grab the tiffrepresentation... how to detect if an image has been altered? Regards. On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Fred Kiefer wrote: Renaud Molla wrote: I experimented a few ways to make the same work with Cocoa and GNUstep

Re: TIFFRpresentation problem

2007-03-07 Thread Renaud Molla
I experimented a few ways to make the same work with Cocoa and GNUstep. So here is the result. At the beginning I was doing this: [ anImage lockFocus ]; // Draw... [ anImage unlockFocus ]; data = [ anImage TIFFRepresentation ]; - Works with Cocoa, should be working with GNUstep but current

Re: Really learning ObjC

2007-02-19 Thread Renaud Molla
Hi Stefan, I learned Objective-C a short time ago, something around 2-3 years ago, because I applied for an internship in a Obj-C developing company during my last year of MSc. I was then mainly a C and Java developper, doing caml and prolog when needed at the university.

Re: The importance of civil communication on the list (was Re: Fucked up gnustep-make)

2007-02-15 Thread Renaud Molla
Thats true, anywhere, anytime, everybody just hates being insulted, that's human, it has nothing to do with professionalism. On Feb 15, 2007, at 8:35 PM, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: I think the issue here is not professionalism, but politeness. Really, how much more help/attention will you get,

Re: Fucked up gnustep-make

2007-02-14 Thread Renaud Molla
On Feb 14, 2007, at 12:59 AM, Chris Vetter wrote: ... The best way to report a bug is politely, and with helpful detail about where it actually occurred and on what system it was running etc.. Hell, if the core developers do not even try to write portable code, even though it's

Re: FOSDEM: We Need Hardware

2007-01-25 Thread Renaud Molla
Why specifically french speaking people? I can't go, I french speaking, but why such a discrimination? On Jan 25, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Benoit Astruc wrote: Hi, I am a lurker on this list, not really using GNUstep as a whole but currently using part of it in my code. I might come to FOSDEM,

Re: Editing NSCell Text In NSView With Mouse Down Event

2007-01-17 Thread Renaud Molla
Hello, Maybe I didn't really get the point about what you'd like to do, but, you could do this: - Handle mouse down in your custom view, - If the click/double click /whatever you want triggers the edition of the text - Create an

Re: Embedded GNUstep - new rumours about embedded MacOS X and call for support

2007-01-11 Thread Renaud Molla
I remember only Core Animation but I might have missed something. in the iPhone presentation (not the whole keynote video), at exactly 9 minutes, you can see Steve Jobs presenting what's in the iPhone's OS X, and on the slide there's Cocoa and he also says Cocoa. On Jan 11, 2007, at

Re: Embedded GNUstep - new rumours about embedded MacOS X and call for support

2007-01-10 Thread Renaud Molla
Having watched the keynote, and supposing Steve Jobs was not lying, the iPhone OS includes Cocoa, but not carbon, he said it runs OS X but not Mac OS X, the technical details page on apple.com also say so. What are they calling OS X? It can't be and it clearly doesn't seem to be the full Mac

Re: Cocotron

2006-12-26 Thread Renaud Molla
cross platforms products. On Dec 26, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 26 Dec 2006, at 10:22, Renaud Molla wrote: First of all, I join the cocotron thread after several posts and may say things already said in previous messages. I tried the cocotron textedit example

Re: Cocotron

2006-12-26 Thread Renaud Molla
That's true, i didn't notice you found other things missing apart from encoding. Renaud. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: Scrollbars.

2006-11-15 Thread Renaud Molla
I think you'll find that the systems which have the scroll bar on the right are also more than 10 years old. There may have been advances made in GUI's in the last ten years, but the position of the scroll bar is not one of them. First of all, do you really think i'm so stupid i didn't

Re: Scrollbars.

2006-11-15 Thread Renaud Molla
On Nov 16, 2006, at 12:46 AM, barny rabbit wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 05:12 -0800, Gregory John Casamento wrote: Renaud, First of all, you're taking the discussion way to personally. Secondly, you don't seem too objective yourself, either, so I'm not sure you're one to talk about new

Re: Scrollbars.

2006-11-14 Thread Renaud Molla
I think creating a free implementation of OpenStep is a good thing, the most important one being the API, because the end user doesn't care if he's using an OpenStep application or a GTK one, what the user looks for is ease of useand this is linked to the knowledge he already has of other systems.

Re: NSCalendarView

2006-11-13 Thread Renaud Molla
I know blackholemedia (blackholemedia.com) has released a Calendar control I use in cocoa, this is released under the BSD license. Having read the code to modify some behaviors, i suppose it should be easily ported to gnustep since i does not seem to contain Apple specific code. However, it

NSOpenGLView

2006-11-08 Thread Renaud Molla
anything equally. The same code works 100% when compiled with cocoa. Any help would be appreciated !-) Renaud Molla ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss