Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-21 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:32 PM Svetlana Tkachenko wrote: > However, ideally, I would recommend that a mirror of all GitHub content is > maintained elsewhere, in case this big company decides to ask for money, > disappear, change hosting policies, or something else happens to it. Use `git

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
> Making an exception only on some (like GitHub). This exception is only acceptable because the users will be served content that does not require proprietary software to run. However, ideally, I would recommend that a mirror of all GitHub content is maintained elsewhere, in case this big

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
> The idea is to get off of the existing server. What server would host the interactive software index, then?

R: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Alessandro Sangiuliano
r GNUstep Oggetto: Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org (Hi there, I am quite new here, I am sorry for interfering here, I wanted to.) Is that really necessary? I do not know how much GNUstep is “libre”. But usually, I would tend to stay out of big company platforms (f.e. Amazon) Making an exception on

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 19.01.2021 um 17:43 schrieb Umberto Cerrato : > >> Theoretically (but that is a very personal opinion), to me the best platform >> would be a self hosted one. Relying on other(s) services the least possible. Indeed. >> The issue with self-hosted solutions is reliability. I have tried

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 19.01.2021 um 17:49 schrieb Ivan Vučica : > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:18 AM H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: >> >> >>> Am 19.01.2021 um 00:36 schrieb Ivan Vučica : >>> >>> Some options: >>> >>> - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated from >>> MySQL data, which

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:18 AM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > > Am 19.01.2021 um 00:36 schrieb Ivan Vučica : > > > > Some options: > > > > - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated from > > MySQL data, which we then check in? > > - If we turn each entry into a single .md

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Umberto Cerrato
> Il giorno 19 gen 2021, alle ore 17:34, Gregory Casamento > ha scritto: > > > Umberto, > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:30 AM Umberto Cerrato > wrote: > (Hi there, I am quite new here, I am sorry for interfering here, I wanted to.) > > Is that really necessary? > > I do not know how much

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Gregory Casamento
Umberto, On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:30 AM Umberto Cerrato wrote: > (Hi there, I am quite new here, I am sorry for interfering here, I wanted > to.) > > Is that really necessary? > > I do not know how much GNUstep is “libre”. > Very. > But usually, I would tend to stay out of big company

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Umberto Cerrato
The only thing I would care is to make sure we can easily move the stuff from it again. So in case there will be a better/easier service, we could move to it. I am saying this because some services want you to adapt to their “rules”. Male sure we spend as much time as possible to the project

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Umberto Cerrato
Il giorno 19 gen 2021, alle ore 13:45, Gregory Casamento ha scritto:  David, On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:12 AM David Chisnall mailto:gnus...@theravensnest.org>> wrote: Gregory, On 19/01/2021 12:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: > Mhm AWS... > Not a fan of Amazon :P > > > Don't care You

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Gregory Casamento
I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the summary dismissal of AWS. Do you have a reason why you don't like them? I've worked with AWS many times and it is ideally suited to this kind of thing. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:48 AM Umberto Cerrato wrote: > Thank you David very much. > > No

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Umberto Cerrato
Thank you David very much. No problem though. I took it like “do not care about it” referring to me. (Not that Gregory would not care lol!) xD > Il giorno 19 gen 2021, alle ore 13:13, David Chisnall > ha scritto: > > Gregory, > >> On 19/01/2021 12:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: >>Mhm

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Gregory Casamento
Umberto, Please explain why you're not a fan. GC On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:01 AM Gregory Casamento wrote: > > Uberto... > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:50 AM Umberto Cerrato > wrote: > >> >> >> Il giorno 19 gen 2021, alle ore 00:51, Gregory Casamento < >> greg.casame...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Gregory Casamento
David, On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 7:12 AM David Chisnall wrote: > Gregory, > > On 19/01/2021 12:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > Mhm AWS... > > Not a fan of Amazon :P > > > > > > Don't care > > You floated the idea of a CoC over Christmas and this is the kind of > exchange that makes me

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread David Chisnall
Gregory, On 19/01/2021 12:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: Mhm AWS... Not a fan of Amazon :P Don't care You floated the idea of a CoC over Christmas and this is the kind of exchange that makes me think that the project might need one. I understand that you don't want to derail the

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread David Chisnall
[ Disclaimer: I work for the company that owns GitHub, but these opinions are my own and not corporate policy ] On 18/01/2021 23:36, Ivan Vučica wrote: - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated from MySQL data, which we then check in? - If we turn each entry into a single

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Gregory Casamento
Uberto... On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:50 AM Umberto Cerrato wrote: > > > Il giorno 19 gen 2021, alle ore 00:51, Gregory Casamento < > greg.casame...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >  > > Hey guys, > > There is a version of the site at gnustep.github.io that I would like to > point gnustep.org to so

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Umberto Cerrato
(Hi there, I am quite new here, I am sorry for interfering here, I wanted to.) Is that really necessary? I do not know how much GNUstep is “libre”. But usually, I would tend to stay out of big company platforms (f.e. Amazon) Making an exception only on some (like GitHub). Theoretically (but

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Gregory, > Am 19.01.2021 um 11:35 schrieb Gregory Casamento : > > Nikolaus, > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:18 AM H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: > > > Am 19.01.2021 um 00:36 schrieb Ivan Vučica : > > > > Some options: > > > > - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Gregory Casamento
Nikolaus, On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:18 AM H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > Am 19.01.2021 um 00:36 schrieb Ivan Vučica : > > > > Some options: > > > > - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated from > > MySQL data, which we then check in? > > - If we turn each entry into a

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-19 Thread Umberto Cerrato
Il giorno 19 gen 2021, alle ore 00:51, Gregory Casamento ha scritto:  Hey guys, There is a version of the site at gnustep.github.io that I would like to point gnustep.org to so that we can make changes more easily and accept PRs. I have not

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-18 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 19.01.2021 um 00:36 schrieb Ivan Vučica : > > Some options: > > - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated from > MySQL data, which we then check in? > - If we turn each entry into a single .md file, we can perhaps > leverage https://github.com/allejo/jekyll-toc Hm.

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-18 Thread Gregory Casamento
Hey guys, There is a version of the site at gnustep.github.io that I would like to point gnustep.org to so that we can make changes more easily and accept PRs. I have not done this because it would break a number of things. I have also considered some custom hosting solutions, including on AWS

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-18 Thread Svetlana Tkachenko
Hi Ivan, hi all, With this migration, would be interested in localization being available for gnustep.org web site. Would be happy to assist with hosting Weblate to output translated files to a website generator, and/or translations to Russian. P.S. I will also check whether Weblate can

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-18 Thread Ivan Vučica
Some options: - Should we turn the index into a set of static pages generated from MySQL data, which we then check in? - If we turn each entry into a single .md file, we can perhaps leverage https://github.com/allejo/jekyll-toc - We could have a tiny nginx host which does nothing but route

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-18 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, I just recognized that making gnustep.org point somewhere else will break http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex/ unless this is moved as well. It is long ago that someone did set this up and it still works... The Software Index needs php, a httpd and a mysql database to be hosted somewhere.

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2021-01-18 Thread Patryk Laurent
Hi Greg, Could we make a plan to implement pointing the domain to the Gitub-hosted site and/or delegate someone to do it? Aside from the navigation menu improvements already committed on the GitHub version of the site, we could also incorporate or link to sites to increase visibility e.g.,

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2019-12-18 Thread Ivan Vučica
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:17 PM Manuel Guesdon wrote: > > - make a CNAME www.gnustep.org => gnustep.github.io (but server hosting >gnustep.github.io should accept requests for www.gnustep.org) This merely requires creating a file named 'CNAME' in the github repo for gnustep.github.io (i.e.

Re: [ML] Re: Hosting of gnustep.org

2019-12-18 Thread Manuel Guesdon
Hi ! On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:58:39 -0500 Gregory Casamento wrote: >| Difficult to explain. I don't understand DNS entries well enough to make >| them manually. I'm going to see what I can do to make this happen. More >| research on my part is needed. Nameservers for gnustep.org are still our