Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-30 Thread Marc Brünink
On Mittwoch, Nov 30, 2005, at 08:01 Europe/Berlin, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Quoting Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 26. Nov 2005, at 18:16 Uhr, Nicolas Roard wrote: - the feel -- more difficult; under windows you want menu-in- windows, etc Is it really such a big deal to resize the

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-30 Thread Pete French
It isn't, but there's lots of apps out there which exist as a menu-only when no windows are open, e.g. Project{Manager,Center}, Gorm, GNUMail, etc. Such a concept doesn't really fit into the Windows world. I came across this years ago deploying OpenStep apps under Windows. Essentially you

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-30 Thread Helge Hess
On 30. Nov 2005, at 13:35 Uhr, Pete French wrote: I came across this years ago deploying OpenStep apps under Windows. Essentially you have to do what NeXT did and make sure theres always one window on screen at launch time if you want the app to function. I think they had one which popped

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-30 Thread David Wetzel
Helge Hess wrote: I suppose the solution is to open a window on startup and to quite the app when all windows are closed. That is exactly what OPENSTEP on Windows did. Look at - (BOOL)applicationShouldTerminateAfterLastWindowClosed:(NSApplication *)theApplication in

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-26 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 26 Nov 2005, at 15:27, Nicolas Roard wrote: On 11/26/05, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-11-26 14:22:25 +0800 Thom Cherryhomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is worth noting that YES, a colour change would go part of

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-26 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-11-27 00:34:58 +0800 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Nov 2005, at 15:27, Nicolas Roard wrote: On 11/26/05, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-26 Thread Helge Hess
On 26. Nov 2005, at 18:16 Uhr, Nicolas Roard wrote: - the feel -- more difficult; under windows you want menu-in- windows, etc Is it really such a big deal to resize the content-view of an NSWindow and place the menu at the top? (really, I have no idea, but this point sounds rather easy,

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-26 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
First of all, a little criticism at the beginning: you are comparing two different things: GNUstep is a framework for developing applications, Gnome is a desktop environment. So next time compare either Gnome to, say, the Etoile project (www.etoile-project.org) or GNUstep to GTK 2.0. Quoting Thom

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-26 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 26 Nov 2005, at 17:16, Nicolas Roard wrote: This is why I'm concerned that we should - 1. keep the current interface as default 2. provide themes for the other interfaces 3. make switching VERY easy 4. try to make things interoperate as well as possible even when we are not using themes to

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-26 Thread Sheldon Gill
Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 26 Nov 2005, at 17:16, Nicolas Roard wrote: This is why I'm concerned that we should - 1. keep the current interface as default 2. provide themes for the other interfaces 3. make switching VERY easy 4. try to make things interoperate as well as possible even

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-25 Thread Jesse Ross
I have posted a screenshot of GNUstep apps running alongside GNOME applications I did this, because a picture is worth a thousand words as to the state of GNUstep's interoperability with other desktop environments Nicolas Roard and I developed the Nesedah theme

Re: Clash of the Titans, GNUstep alongside GNOME

2005-11-25 Thread Richard Fillion
Talk about sticking out like a sore thumb. It's not all bad though. The GNUstep default look looks a little more organized if you ask me. But that may be because I love the column view and despise icons like that. A few things that should seriously be looked at: - The attributes