Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Michael Thaler
On Thursday 31 August 2006 23:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Even XFCE, a pretty common environment, let's say the 3rd big usually > found in linux, doesn't have stuff like a mailer or a browser, you use > third party stuff. A windowmanager, a set of preferences, a bunch of > utilities, a dock and

Re: objc scene graph

2006-08-31 Thread Jason Clouse
On 2006-08-31 13:14:17 -0400 Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: anybody knows if there is one that exists? Phillippe C.D. Robert wrote one a long time ago. The page I found for it is here: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnu3dkit/gnu3dkit.html The last news item was 2003 but Phillippe

Re: ANN: Encore version 0.3.0

2006-08-31 Thread Oliver Langer
good point. I'll take a look into it. Thanks, Oliver Am 01.09.2006 um 00:55 schrieb Helge Hess: On Aug 31, 2006, at 23:34, Oliver Langer wrote: The classes include - logging: A flexible logging mechanism similiar to log4j. Supports logging levels, logging contexts, different output

Re: ANN: Encore version 0.3.0

2006-08-31 Thread Helge Hess
On Aug 31, 2006, at 23:34, Oliver Langer wrote: The classes include - logging: A flexible logging mechanism similiar to log4j. Supports logging levels, logging contexts, different output channels per context, configuration per xml, ... Thats interesting. Marcus Mueller wrote a sim

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Jeremy Tregunna
On 06-08-31, at 17:34, Riccardo wrote: GNUstep is *not* at this time anywhere near complete as a desktop environment. To be there, you need working packages for all platforms, you need a GWorkspace that comes configured out of the box and is easy to use, you need mail packaged and incl

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Tima Vaisburd
On Thursday 31 August 2006 04:52, Nicolas Roard wrote: > > But I tried to demonstrate that simple tasks from Apple online tutorial > > [...] cannot be done with the current state of GNUstep at all. > hmmm which tutorial is it ? http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CocoaDraw

"Clues to Objective-C 2.0"

2006-08-31 Thread Corey
Seems would be interesting on this list. Andy Matuschak lists the new features of objc 2.0, which he learned of by reading the check-in comments contained in apple's latest gcc branch on the gnu.org code repository: http://andymatuschak.org/articles/2006/08/27/clues-to-objective-c-2-0 _

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Yves de Champlain
To make a long story short, what makes Gnome and KDE "Good-prime-time- ready desktop environments" ? The fact that they are presented as such by those who build distributions. If anyone had to build and set up gnome the way we have to do with gnustep, he would say that gnome is not ready !

ANN: BDB version 0.2.1

2006-08-31 Thread Oliver Langer
I am pleased to announce version 0.2.1 of the berkeley database wrapper for objective-c BDB. Announcement Version 0.2.1 of the Berkeley Database Wrapper for Objective-C is now available. About BDB = BDB is a set of classes implementing an interface to Berkeley DB for t

ANN: Encore version 0.3.0

2006-08-31 Thread Oliver Langer
I am pleased to announce version 0.3.0 of the utility framework Encore. Announcement Version 0.3 of Encore is now available. About Encore Encore is a set of utility classes written in Objective-C for GNUstep and Mac OS X. The motivation of writting these classes

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Riccardo
Hey, wow, the typical bla bla bla, but this time from another user. I think you got some good points though. On Thursday, August 31, 2006, at 04:39 PM, Jiva DeVoe wrote: IMO, the key misunderstanding here continues to be in that despite all it's claims to the contrary... GNUstep, as it i

ANN: FT 0.2.0

2006-08-31 Thread Oliver Langer
I am pleased to announce version 0.2.0 of the graph database management system FT for objective-c. Announcement Version 0.2.0 of the graph database management system FT is now available. About FT = FT is a graph database management system for the GNUstep and Mac

objc scene graph

2006-08-31 Thread Rogelio Serrano
anybody knows if there is one that exists? -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday 4. does not remember all the changes i have ever made 5.cannot figure out

Re: [OT] Copyright assignment

2006-08-31 Thread Adam Fedor
On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:32 AM, Chris Vetter wrote: I'm not going to comment, since everyone has his rights to his opinions, however, what Yavor wrote has some merit. It would be a good idea to add a comment to the Wiki what steps _exactly_ you would have to take to sign copyright over to FSF.

GNUstep compilation on Ubuntu 6.06 woes + Pre-Compiled Ubuntu 6.06 Binaries

2006-08-31 Thread Farrell, Daniel J
Title: GNUstep compilation on Ubuntu 6.06 woes + Pre-Compiled Ubuntu 6.06 Binaries Hi folks, Try this excellent walkthrough/guide: http://www.gnustep.net/Documentation/BuildGuide/develop.html Everything worked fine for me on Ubuntu 6.06 by following that. It would be good to have binaries

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Dennis Leeuw
amen Jiva DeVoe wrote: I think in terms of both. Both are important to get developers to come to GNUstep. One of the things GNUstep needs most is developers. We need to get them any way we can. IMO, the key misunderstanding here continues to be in that despite all it's claims to

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Jiva DeVoe
I think in terms of both. Both are important to get developers to come to GNUstep. One of the things GNUstep needs most is developers. We need to get them any way we can. IMO, the key misunderstanding here continues to be in that despite all it's claims to the contrary... GNUstep,

Re: GNUstep compilation on Ubuntu 6.06 woes

2006-08-31 Thread Michael Hanni
Yen-Ju: --- Yen-Ju Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder why you compile it under base/Tools/ ? > Usually, I just do 'make' under base/ directory and everything builds. Making under base builds the library fine, but I forgot to get the error message at that time... I simply went directl

Re: Wiki's main page

2006-08-31 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Yes, it does. It's got my vote. --Gregory John Casamento - Original Message From: Chris Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 6:35:13 AM Subject: Wiki's main page Hi, have you seen http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/User_talk:Mad

Re: Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Nicolas Roard
On 8/31/06, Tima Vaisburd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But I can't find an equivalent of gui/back combination. To my mind, it's the gui/back that's crucial. But I'm repeating myself... agree.. But I tried to demonstrate that simple tasks from Apple online tutorial, like read the bitmap image, t

Re: [OT] Copyright assignment

2006-08-31 Thread Yavor Doganov
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:32:43 +0200, Chris Vetter wrote: > For example, I do not know whether I have to write a letter or send a > mail, If it is a GNU project, write to the project leader. Adam Fedor knows how to handle this perfectly well (I don't know whether he has delegated such tasks to R

The future of ...

2006-08-31 Thread Markus Hitter
Written for NetBSD and picked up on the DragonFly list, GNUstep is not the only project currently evaluating it's position: Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ _

Wiki's main page

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, have you seen http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/User_talk:Madleser ? Looks MUCH better than the current main page. I'm all in favour for replacing... -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.or

Re: [OT] Copyright assignment

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 17:54:15 +0200 Yavor Doganov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] I'm not going to comment, since everyone has his rights to his opinions, however, what Yavor wrote has some merit. It would be a good idea to add a comment to the Wiki what steps _exactly_ you would have to take to sig

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 19:44:27 +0200 Michael Thaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, especially regarding Gecko. However, using libwww WOULD be an idea for writing a _very_ simple webbrowser. I was thinking about that, using libwww as a bundle,

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-31 Thread Tima Vaisburd
Thanks to everyone who took time to read my message and respond. On Wednesday 30 August 2006 05:40, Gregory John Casamento wrote: > > While many people here seem to think in terms of porting, I believe that > > new development bears greater potential. I believe there are enough > > people who hav