Now I get it. The slogan is to attract developers. But developers
usually aren't attracted by short vague sentences, that make them invest
their precious time and effort on something they haven't investigated
properly. When you choose a technology to implement something, you check
first if it
On 12 Nov 2007, at 11:28, Daniel Santos wrote:
Now I get it. The slogan is to attract developers. But developers
usually aren't attracted by short vague sentences, that make them
invest their precious time and effort on something they haven't
investigated properly. When you choose a
Hi everyone,
A GNUstep for a man, a giant leap in Userland.
That doesn't mean much but the reference to Neil Armstrong is obvious
(at least to me).
Regards.
On Nov 12, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote:
On 12 Nov 2007, at 11:28, Daniel Santos wrote:
Now I get it. The
Hi all,
I've just released SimpleAgenda 0.30. SimpleAgenda is an easy to use
agenda and calendar application supporting events (appointments) and
tasks. For more informations, see
http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/SimpleAgenda.app
Download
The one that stands out for me is 'make your users smile today'
though I'd modify it slightly to 'make your users smile', because ...
1. the 'today' is reminiscent of a certain microsoft slogan
2. we want to make the users smile today and tomorrow and onwards
3. the shorter phrase just seems to
If there is going to be a slogan, it has to clearly mention GNUstep's
primary goal, which has always been software freedom.
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Hi,
Jesse Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The one that stands out for me is 'make your users smile today'
though I'd modify it slightly to 'make your users smile', because ...
1. the 'today' is reminiscent of a certain microsoft slogan
2. we want to make the users smile today and
Am 12.11.2007 um 12:44 schrieb Richard Frith-Macdonald:
On 12 Nov 2007, at 11:28, Daniel Santos wrote:
Now I get it. The slogan is to attract developers. But developers
usually aren't attracted by short vague sentences, that make them
invest their precious time and effort on something
Am 12.11.2007 um 12:28 schrieb Daniel Santos:
Now I get it. The slogan is to attract developers. But developers
usually aren't attracted by short vague sentences, that make them
invest their precious time and effort on something they haven't
investigated properly. When you choose a
2) A nice slogan is good, but that's not really what we lack or need
most, is it ? I mean if the recent effort put into that discussion was
spent on the website, it would have been a bit more effective ;-) [not
throwing rocks to anybody, I'm the first to not have time at the
moment to work on
I, personally, think a slogan is nice, but it is certainly not all we need.
We need everything that has been discussed on the ML over the past few days:
1) Newer theme
2) More apps
3) Improved website (a planet, perhaps, that will help us draw attention.)
4) Better exposure
5) Inclusion in
I commented on each one before, but figured it was kind of useless,
instead, here is a summary.
In order:
1. Code Less, Deploy Everywhere
2. Make Your Users Smile(without the Today part)
3. Boost Your Development Productivity(without the (open source GUI)
thing)
Addition... it needs
FYI, I moved this conversation and added a summer to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnustep-webmasters/2007-11/msg4.html (I
think, at the time I wrote this it still hadn't been updated, check
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnustep-webmasters/2007-11/threads.html if
What is the perceived need GnuStep wants to satisfy? What is
GnuStep's goal / target audience/market?
Other than saying as many users as possible I'm not sure what
else to say.
No system/API/environment should ever specifically target a group
of people. People should find us useful and
Hi,
On 2007-11-09 10:23:18 +0100 Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I am trying to play my part in there, I am currently porting an
OPENSTEP/Rhapsody sound editor (Resound) first to OS X and later to GNUstep.
Progress is slow, I am currently facing some obstacles which
Hey,
On 2007-11-10 19:39:33 +0100 Gregory John Casamento
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For starters a browser... and, perhaps a set of office apps.
Vespucci is
a browser and it's in the gap repo. It uses SimpleWebKit. I'm
considering
porting an application called Bean.app which is a word
David Chisnall wrote:
Note that this is already possible; a packager can always grab Camaelon
from Étoilé and add a Camaelon package to their GNUstep metapackage, but
there is no information on the GNUstep site about doing this and so most
people don't. There are no screenshots on the GNUstep
Hi,
top posting is bad, but may I ask, did I write this? Almost. It is written
stronger than I would have.
I may though add that themability is a good thing, it has many uses, last but
not least to be able to make a single applicaiton look better in the rest of
the environment if this is
I'd not change the design too much though, I got accustomed to the
current design, I don't rememebr who did it, but it is fine.
This is the new design, in case you missed the link:
http://jesseross.com/clients/gnustep/site/02.png
Response has been positive overall, so that is what I am
Jesse Ross wrote:
I guess I didn't explain that point too well. What I was trying to
say is that image size detracts from the other contents on the page.
I agree that we should have GNUstep images on the homepage, just not
that big. When reading the content you had on that mock-up (I'm just
Hi,
A few (tongue in cheek) suggestions I have for a slogan are:
* GNUstep - The greatest API you've never heard of! * GNUstep - We
ain't
WindowMaker, Jack!
* GNUstep - Not your father's Cocoa!
* GNUstep - Differently Thunk.
*smiles*
you made me smile.
What about
GNUstep - the real NeXT
Stefan Bidigaray wrote:
That reminds me of another point worth discussing... the defaults
system. What you're saying here is not simple to do exactly because the
user HAS to change the defaults themselves. Take for example GTK+
settings, all a distribution have to do to get a new look is add
What I am missing on these web pages are the links for developers. OK,
this is very egoistic, but this was one of the few reasons for me to
check out the GNUstep page from time to time, it was a hub for
different
development links. We surely can improve on that :-)
What type of developers
Tomaz,
I'm not taking it as a criticism at all. But, as project maintainer, I'm sure
you can appreciate my position. I can't say unilaterally that I want to appeal
to one group over the other.
GNUstep currently most appeals to former NeXT people who are into Mac OS X.
However, a lot of
Jesse Ross wrote:
What I am missing on these web pages are the links for developers.
OK, this is very egoistic, but this was one of the few reasons for
me to check out the GNUstep page from time to time, it was a hub
for different development links. We surely can improve on that :-)
What
I am not asking for much, I have been a GNUstep developer for too long
already. What I want o find there is about the same amount of
information already at.
http://www.gnustep.org/developers/
GNUstep currently is mostly for developers and we should pay attention
to that. As soon as we have more
Hi All... I don't mean to come on and be a flame thrower my first
post. Believe me, I am hoping to be convinced that GNUStep is a great
choice... but my three weeks of poking and playing makes me wonder...
Here's the thing: I am getting ready to start a pretty big project in
Linux and I am trying
Dear All,
To begin with, I'd like to say that this mail contains what some
might consider being criticism. This is true.
Criticism is not welcome but is necessary. This is the base of
science, this is the base of marketing.
But all I want is GNUstep (and actually OpenStep) to come back
Folks, how about this:
GNUstep - strong shoulders!
or more wordy ones :
GNUstep - gentle giant with strong shoulders!
GNUstep - gentle giant with strong shoulders to make your app stand tall
Cheers!
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On 12 Nov 2007, at 21:53, Fred Kiefer wrote:
Stefan Bidigaray wrote:
That reminds me of another point worth discussing... the defaults
system. What you're saying here is not simple to do exactly
because the
user HAS to change the defaults themselves. Take for example GTK+
settings, all a
Mark,
Hi All... I don't mean to come on and be a flame thrower my first
post. Believe me, I am hoping to be convinced that GNUStep is a great
choice... but my three weeks of poking and playing makes me wonder...
I'm not going to try to win you over, only give you the facts about where we
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