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code is on GNA.
I agree -- we should decide on something distributed and use it. I
have a CL that has now balooned to 1600 lines that I cannot submit
since a week -- highly frustrating. It really highlight the fact that
we relay way too much on GNA.
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Hi,
I haven't yet booked my hotel, so I'm wondering which one will contain
the most gnustep-minded people :) Louise, Argus, somewhere else?
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a hackathon
some time in August or later in the year. Who would be interested in coming,
and when would be a good time?
I'm actually going to be in france early august -- I could maybe swing
by the first weekend of august (I'm landing in london the saturday...)
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that it's clearly not the
current focus on the project, that other projects' goals would align
much better (GAP or even Étoilé), and accessorily we went through that
discussion so many times in the past that it feels old.
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projects aiming for this -- not trying to turn gnustep itself
as being a desktop. Your enthusiasm and energy is appreciated, but
it'd be better to use it in a more constructive way than starting
flamewars.
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car in
the years ago).
probably not necessary - there are printer shops near the university
for flyers, if we need too.
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upload them on vimeo (that's what I did for the etoile hackathon
--http://vimeo.com/user1762980/videos).
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: Étoilé: Where it is, where
it's going, why it isn't there yet.
13:00 - 13:45 Nicolas Roard: CodeMonkey: an Étoilé IDE
14:00 - 14:45 Mathé Quentin: EtoileUI: Fast UI Development
with EtoileUI and Smalltalk.
15:00 - 15:30 David Chisnall: Objective
that if it is available in Cairo, why not use it?
Riccardo
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. Is it mainly for Linux and Windows?
Linux, BSD and Windows, yes. Mainly.
4. Is it necessary to use GNUStep and its libraries or may I just write ObjC
apps using GCC?
You can write ObjC apps using GCC and no GNUstep, but that's imho kind of
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. If you
use the NeXT plist format (NSPropertyListOpenStepFormat) you get quite a
dense representation; Nicolas Roard wrote a distributed visualisation
application using this technique for control messages for his PhD.
David
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I am pretty new
if they do and fix it
if they don't...
Now would be fun is DO through protocol buffers ;-) [reusing etoile's
serialisation code?]
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Hello,
in FTP (available in GAP, http://gap.nongnu.org) I do inter-thread messaging
with the precise goal to have threads perform
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to introduce themselves, and B) it
would give the show an a lot more professional touch with nearly no
additional overhead (:
good idea. Maybe less talks next year as well (to keep the developer's
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Am 05.02.2009 um 17:43 schrieb Nicolas Roard:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
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Hi Nicolas,
did you get in contact
can change the FOSDEM web site too.
Well, sadly it looks I won't even be able to come saturday either...
Maybe somebody else is willing to do the presentation anyway ?
(also, possibly david could give a remote talk ?...)
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worth printing them, considering we only
have a developer room this time, and no booths.
Maybe print some of the one-page brochure just to have some...
(and maybe update the one-page brochure)
Printing those would be easy and could even be done in Brussels.
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).
Checkout their website http://pondylifestyle.com/
Although I won't be at FOSDEM this year, I'd be willing to create designs
for the shirts, if you decide to get some printed up.
hm, the fosdem is in 12 days -- might be a slightly too tight deadline!
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Hi,
As it looks we'll have some pretty interesting talks, it would be
great if we could record them and put them online for all the people
not coming...
Is there someone willing to come to the fosdem with a video cam /
microphones / lots of hard disk available ?
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I love
applications will
already have a main window...
Also, as david pointed, this work on NSWindows95InterfaceStyle should
be helpful as well for GNUstep apps running under KDE and GNOME.
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it? If I didn't, does it still exist?
This was a quick hack from Matt Rice iirc, and likely wouldn't work
now (I'm not even sure matt sent me the source code). But the basic
concept was to leverage the toolbar system to attach menus.
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On 14 Jan 2009, at 21:08, Fred Kiefer wrote:
Getting a menu inside
.
Did the same, (they first quoted me 75 euros/night until I told them I
was in the gnustep/fosdem group, so mention it :)).
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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Chisnall thera...@sucs.org wrote:
On 9 Jan 2009, at 14:04, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
What is missing (IMO) from our presentation lineup is someone talking
about
by Nicola last year was quite good:
http://www.hotel-argus.be/
Lars, can you organize that?
Any news on the hotel ?
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themes to give mild results because of this. OTOH, OSX themes should
be reusable nearly transparently.
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would be great to have better integration with the host OS in gnustep
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/softwareindex/plist.php) to show updates and allow for
automatic download install.
Excellent idea!
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- we could have faster remote display as well (see NX) by being able to
use local widgets and thus save on many round-trips
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but I overlooked that no mail was sent to any of the GNUstep mailing lists.
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Nicola Pero wrote:
Anyway, I agree that for an Xcode programmer the idea of just having a
button
. Gorm is the only
application to exhibit this problem - all other GNUstep apps work fine for
me.
Did you run make_services ?
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I still have the new and open menu items grey'd out with the latest Gorm
on
FreeBSD 7 / x86
?
Isn't it possible to rename those panels and windows ?..
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wrote a bundle for it about 4 years ago, not sure
if it still works...
http://ftp.gnustep.org/pub/gnustep/contrib/NiftyTitleBar-0.0.2.tar.gz
Note that this will only work if gnustep is set as being its own window manager.
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XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
openapp TextEdit.app
and see if that solves the issue?
Depends on the backend used -- if it's the art backend for instance,
this could be a SHM issue (there's a default to tell the backend to
not use shm that you could try).
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the Cocoa behaviour :P
If you want to participate in the SoC, you have to send ore or more
than one application (possibly quite detailed) on the soc website, not
just here, and before the deadline (tomorrow!).
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So far nobody replied to my message
Here is one:
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dynamic inlining,
Actually JIT is the worst thing really. I hate how people think JIT
is the future, it is the past and static compiling is going to be
around for many years. JIT is a fad.
I seriously doubt JIT is a fad, to the contrary.
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Hi *,
I have a last minute problem, and can't leave today :-/ so don't count
on me for tonight's meeting in bruxelles...
I may be able to catch a train tomorrow, probably arriving late in the
afternoon.
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. And putting an external screen isn't
great either as that immobilize the computer... So really, if somebody
can bring spare comps that'd be fantastic.
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tree than
it uses Carbon, not Cocoa.
I talked with the guy in charge with the port last fosdem, and while
they were using carbon, he said they wanted to switch to cocoa later
on. No idea when though, and that was last year...
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packages or that don't
have packages.
Anyway, just reminding that it really is not a huge undertaking to
make a livecd that way, and fixing whatever needs to be fixed on
quentin's scripts would make things even simpler.
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around feb/march/april ?
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Still, I find it hard that they can't get us a spare table and a few
chairs :-/ -- it might be worth asking only for that.
I did this, we'll see how Pascal responds. He was always very
with lots
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On Nov 13, 2007 2:16 PM, Mark Grice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But dialog boxes are a prime example of what would be better if it
were native. For example: Ubuntu has Samba, which allows me to get
to call it, and get a list of files. The only advanced feature (a
very cool one, mind you) is rarely used if ever (accessory views).
Therefore it should be easy to support native file dialogs, and I put
forward in my previous emails the advantages of doing so.
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the file chooser 3/ pasteboard integration ...
Note that this is _exactly_ what NeXT did with OpenStep for Windows.
It's not a perfect solution but it's a good compromise.
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trick. That or deinstalling GWorkspace.
Personally I really dislike this tendency of GW to launch itself like
that, but hey.
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slogans, rather than GNUstep - code
differently, I think code smartly or code intelligently would be
more on target.. (as someone say earlier in the thread, programmers do
not want to code differently)
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through what do you need to do to
INSTALL gnustep and LAUNCH at least one application.
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, and he's
also on FreeBSD... just to check, could you grab the backend from a
week ago with svn, and recompile ? Just to know if it's something I
introduced with my last commits or not...
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On 9/4/07, Isaiah Beerbower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm experiencing problems getting the cairo backend to work. I'm
installing on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE with the following
wrote a quick summary on my blog as well...
http://camaelon.blogspot.com/
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of a Sunday, i.e. 2 nights for
hacking sessions.
We had a friday evening hacking session :)
Hopefully we can get a few more developers (Richard ? Nicola ? Oliver?
...)
They have missed a lot!
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4/ There's still room to implement it better ;-)
5/ And at the end of day, it's a free software project: people are
free to work on whatever they want.
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.. and in
a corporate environment to boot. Personally I'd love have more
informations about his general setup.
And his general point is just that OpenSource software brings more
stability/long term view to IT management, that's all -- hardly a wild
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Salut fabien,
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And as a free software users, we are better off with GNUstep existing
than without, no ?
So what exactly is your point ?
From a user point of view, nothing.
From a user
to build a LiveCD
_before_ publishing on Slashdot: http://linux.slashdot.org/
article.pl?sid=07/07/29/2042254
good point ;-) but... maybe it was just a teaser so that people will
want to try the livecd :)
(beside we weren't expecting a /. mention)
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Who else?
Add myself too :-) Sorry to reply so late.
Cheers,
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instance, there's work to do on the Cairo backend, on the windows
port, etc.
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thing.. I'll arrive in brussels thursday evening; if somebody
wants to meet before the fosdem (quentin and jesse will be there too)
just send me a mail.
See you in Brussels !
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Well I'll try to play a bit with your setup -- building a working iso
from it would be a first step ;-) (so far it's grabing files...)
If that works I'll try to modify it.. probably get rid
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I think we can reuse the banner we printed last year -- quentin have
it I believe ? (at worse it wouldn't take much effort to print it
again)
I still have this banner. I will bring it unless we
; then document it,
ideally with sshots; then release the skelettons and the documentation
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Graham J Lee schrieb:
On 25 Jan 2007, at 16:43, Nicolas Roard wrote:
I updated the current list:
http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/FOSDEM_2007#Demos
Anyone interested if I bring the Rhapsody Programmers' Guide by Jesse
Feiler? ;-) Won't
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On 1/25/07, Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/25/07, Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- books
- don't get the point
well, I'm not sure I get the point either -- why not, just to show
what kind of books people can buy, but.. we aren't selling them
anyway..
So, thinking about
On 1/25/07, Sašo Kiselkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nicolas Roard wrote:
Hi everybody,
We need to know who can bring hardware for the fosdem's booth...
here's what we *need*:
- public computers for the booth -- ideally one running windows, one
running linux/bsd, one running OS X -- could
I updated the current list:
http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/FOSDEM_2007#Demos
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On 1/25/07, Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 25 Jan 2007, at 16:43, Nicolas Roard wrote:
I updated the current list:
http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/FOSDEM_2007#Demos
Anyone interested if I bring the Rhapsody Programmers' Guide by Jesse
Feiler? ;-) Won't bring it if not, because
it should use the control background
color at all -- it should be regarded as transparent widget, and/or
use the window background colo...
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On 1/25/07, Renaud Molla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why specifically french speaking people?
I can't go, I french speaking, but why such a discrimination?
chill out :)
everybody is welcomed, of course. That's why I answered in english :)
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for the color, -name for the
curve name...). That way the actual objects can be much more complex
(mines are doing simulations), yet simply by passing them to the graph
view I can visualize them.
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It's fairly simple but the code is ok. Another solution is the XY
framework: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/xy/
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