In my opinion, I think Cocoa compatibility is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to
GNUStep.
It is on the basis of Cocoa compatibility that I managed to convince
my department
that Cocoa / GNUStep should be the way to go for our development
needs. We need
application framework that is compatible with
GNUstep discuss-gnustep@gnu.org
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Subject: Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)
In my opinion, I think Cocoa compatibility is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to
GNUStep.
It is on the basis of Cocoa compatibility that I managed to convince
my
From: Nicolas Roard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- what do we really gain from compatibility?
But there's also apps like Vienna or Sketch we ported
straight from OSX to GNUstep/etoile, apps that fabien
ported too (MPlayer, etc), and I forget others.
And there's as usual all the apps that
Am 07.08.2007 um 03:22 schrieb Vaisburd, Haim:
For this, of course, we should not abandon X windows like Apple
did.
FYI: Neither NeXT nor Apple did ever use X as their windowing system.
You'd better get informed before you starting to rant.
regards,
Lars
On 8/7/07, Vaisburd, Haim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From many discussions on this list I got an impression that every
attempt
of porting any serious Mac OSX application failed - either because of
Carbon
or because of some toolkits on the top of AppKit that we do not have.
If this is a wrong
Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 07.08.2007 um 03:22 schrieb Vaisburd, Haim:
For this, of course, we should not abandon X windows like Apple
did.
FYI: Neither NeXT nor Apple did ever use X as their windowing system.
You'd better get informed before you starting
Hi,
Sorry for the delay in response - I was travelling this weekend.
From: Richard Frith-Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In my mind, people who focus on Mac OSX compatibility [...]
do not expect independent development.
I think this just shows that your mind is a long way
out of touch
Yen-Ju Chen wrote:
Currently [NSWorkspace -openURL:] does nothing if the url is not a file.
I propose to have a 'GSWebBrowserApplication' in user default
(application and NSGlobalDomain) as 'GSWorkspaceApplication'.
Then NSWorkspace can check whether users specify a web browser and
open the
Am 03.08.2007 um 08:03 schrieb Fabien VALLON:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 1:30 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an offer for you: there is mySTEP/QuantumSTEP which is sort of
a playground version of GNUstep to run on embedded devices - and -
has
the aim to be compatible to 10.4 (and 10.5 as
hi
On Fri, August 3, 2007 2:33 pm, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Do you have WebKit,
CoreAudio, CoreImage, CoreFoundation,
No. These are not really part of Cocoa. But there are substitutes.
Where ?
WebKit,
NSToolbar,
Yes.
I downloaded http://www.quantum-step.com/download/sources/
On 3 Aug., 06:01, Fabien VALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GNUstep runs after Cocoa since 8 years.
What does it gain for Open Source users ?
Runs on your favourite Open Source machine, i.e. Linux, *BSD.
Runs on Windows.
Runs on embedded devices.
Nothing !
When the Leopard will be there ,
On 8/3/07, Fabien VALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 12:32 pm, Andreas Höschler wrote:
Hi Fabien,
GNUstep runs after Cocoa since 8 years.
What does it gain for Open Source users?
Nothing !
Come on... what do you mean it gains nothing ? GNUstep made a lot of
On 8/3/07, Fred Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yen-Ju Chen wrote:
Currently [NSWorkspace -openURL:] does nothing if the url is not a file.
I propose to have a 'GSWebBrowserApplication' in user default
(application and NSGlobalDomain) as 'GSWorkspaceApplication'.
Then NSWorkspace can
On Fri, August 3, 2007 2:17 pm, Nicolas Roard wrote:
Salut fabien,
On 8/3/07, Fabien VALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 1:00 pm, Nicolas Roard wrote:
I don't really think such an enormous amount of time is passed on
running after cocoa instead of fixing existing bugs.
On Freitag, Aug 3, 2007, at 12:27 Europe/Berlin, Pete French wrote:
EOF and Yellow Box from the market, porting WebObjects to Java and
then
back to Objective-C,... Oh my ... ! I can really sleep well now
knowing
woah! I missed soemthign somewhere - is there an Obj-C version
of
On Fri, August 3, 2007 11:21 am, Andreas Höschler wrote:
Hi,
As currently I am almost alone working on GNUstep gui
(and back for that matter), it will take some time for these things to
happen.
And GNustep is still running after Cocoa.
Featurewise, yes!
But many of the advances of
On Fri, August 3, 2007 10:00 am, Fred Kiefer wrote:
[skip]
As currently I am almost alone working on GNUstep gui
(and back for that matter), it will take some time for these things to
happen.
And GNustep is still running after Cocoa.
With no short term objectives.
It is a no way.
Congrats
Hi Fabien,
As currently I am almost alone working on GNUstep gui
(and back for that matter), it will take some time for these things
to
happen.
And GNustep is still running after Cocoa.
Featurewise, yes!
But many of the advances of Cocoa/Aqua over GNUstep/Etoile fit into
the
nice to
Salut fabien,
On 8/3/07, Fabien VALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 1:00 pm, Nicolas Roard wrote:
And as a free software users, we are better off with GNUstep existing
than without, no ?
So what exactly is your point ?
From a user point of view, nothing.
From a user
Hi Fabien,
I think we should stop this discussion here. We have been here many
times before and I don't see anything new point arising. There are
people who think that GNUstep should try to follow Cocoa and others who
think that we should restrict ourselves to OpenStep, with proper
additions from
Hi,
On 2007-08-03 12:45:53 +0200 Fabien VALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
GNUstep runs after Cocoa since 8 years.
What does it gain for Open Source users?
Nothing !
My copy of MacOS-X 10.0 is copyrighted 2001...
Unusable from a desktop point of view.
I wonder what kind of desktop
Hi,
GNUstep is still running after Cocoa and still introduce new bugs etc
...
This is pure waste of times / effort.
so if we will have a webkit it will have been a waste of effort?
OpenStep is a reference, but for example on the URL and internet side
a lot has evolved in OS reuirements,
Fred Kiefer wrote:
But why should we open up URLs with a web browser?
An URL just specifies how to get to a specific set of data,
the data itself should then be treated just like any other
file of that type.
Yes, agreed here.
If it is HTML then it should be passed on to a web browser,
but
Him
On 2007-08-03 11:01:12 +0200 Fabien VALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 10:00 am, Fred Kiefer wrote:
[skip]
As currently I am almost alone working on GNUstep gui
(and back for that matter), it will take some time for these things
to
happen.
And GNustep is still
: Re: Open URL in NSWorkspace
Him
On 2007-08-03 11:01:12 +0200 Fabien VALLON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 10:00 am, Fred Kiefer wrote:
[skip]
As currently I am almost alone working on GNUstep gui
(and back for that matter), it will take some time for these things
Am 03.08.2007 um 14:45 schrieb Gregory John Casamento:
As far as GNUstep having no direction, I'm wondering why people
have consistently ignored these:
Maybe, because it started as http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php?
title=Roadmapoldid=25 ...
And, maybe because there is rarely visible
Am 03.08.2007 um 09:28 schrieb Fabien VALLON:
hi
On Fri, August 3, 2007 2:33 pm, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Do you have WebKit,
CoreAudio, CoreImage, CoreFoundation,
No. These are not really part of Cocoa. But there are substitutes.
Where ?
I don't know exactly but there
Casamento [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; discuss-gnustep@gnu.org
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Am 03.08.2007 um 14:45 schrieb Gregory John Casamento:
As far as GNUstep having no direction, I'm wondering why people
have consistently ignored
Riccardo wrote:
Fabien:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 10:00 am, Fred Kiefer wrote:
As currently I am almost alone working on GNUstep gui (and back for
that matter), it will take some time for these things to happen.
And GNustep is still running after Cocoa.
With no short term objectives.
:23 PM
Subject: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)
Riccardo wrote:
Fabien:
On Fri, August 3, 2007 10:00 am, Fred Kiefer wrote:
As currently I am almost alone working on GNUstep gui (and back for
that matter), it will take some time for these things to happen
Am 03.08.2007 um 21:05 schrieb Vaisburd, Haim:
I, on the contrary, believe that we can do better, even much better.
GNUstep already does better in some areas. There is no Carbon burden,
instead there is cross platform compatibility, to point out two
examples.
Obviously, there are
On 8/3/07, Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obviously, there are visionaires in the Etoilé group: http://
www.etoile-project.org/etoile/blog/2007/07/road-to-coreobject-
part-1.html My comment: great idea, but when would you expect this
to be widespread technology if you cant afford to
Currently [NSWorkspace -openURL:] does nothing if the url is not a file.
I propose to have a 'GSWebBrowserApplication' in user default
(application and NSGlobalDomain) as 'GSWorkspaceApplication'.
Then NSWorkspace can check whether users specify a web browser and
open the url with that web
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