Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-11 Thread andy.somogyi
In my opinion, I think Cocoa compatibility is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to GNUStep. It is on the basis of Cocoa compatibility that I managed to convince my department that Cocoa / GNUStep should be the way to go for our development needs. We need application framework that is compatible with

Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-11 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Andy, Allow me to make it clear: * The GNUstep Project is committed to Cocoa compatibility. Period. You have nothing to fear on that front. Later, GJC -- Gregory CasamentoGNUstep Chief Maintainer/Gorm Maintainer - Original Message From: andy.somogyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discuss

RE: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-08 Thread Vaisburd, Haim
From: Nicolas Roard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - what do we really gain from compatibility? But there's also apps like Vienna or Sketch we ported straight from OSX to GNUstep/etoile, apps that fabien ported too (MPlayer, etc), and I forget others. And there's as usual all the apps that

Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-07 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 07.08.2007 um 03:22 schrieb Vaisburd, Haim: For this, of course, we should not abandon X windows like Apple did. FYI: Neither NeXT nor Apple did ever use X as their windowing system. You'd better get informed before you starting to rant. regards, Lars

Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-07 Thread Nicolas Roard
On 8/7/07, Vaisburd, Haim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From many discussions on this list I got an impression that every attempt of porting any serious Mac OSX application failed - either because of Carbon or because of some toolkits on the top of AppKit that we do not have. If this is a wrong

RE: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-07 Thread Vaisburd, Haim
Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 07.08.2007 um 03:22 schrieb Vaisburd, Haim: For this, of course, we should not abandon X windows like Apple did. FYI: Neither NeXT nor Apple did ever use X as their windowing system. You'd better get informed before you starting

RE: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-06 Thread Vaisburd, Haim
Hi, Sorry for the delay in response - I was travelling this weekend. From: Richard Frith-Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In my mind, people who focus on Mac OSX compatibility [...] do not expect independent development. I think this just shows that your mind is a long way out of touch

Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-03 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Haim, I disagree with Fabien 100%.Mac OS X compatibility is essential to GNUstep. Naturally, getting everything stable takes priority. However, as you can see from my previous responses, he was wrong about there being no Roadmap... there is one he was wrong about there being no

Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-03 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 03.08.2007 um 21:05 schrieb Vaisburd, Haim: I, on the contrary, believe that we can do better, even much better. GNUstep already does better in some areas. There is no Carbon burden, instead there is cross platform compatibility, to point out two examples. Obviously, there are

Re: The future of GNUstep (was: Open URL in NSWorkspace)

2007-08-03 Thread Nicolas Roard
On 8/3/07, Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, there are visionaires in the Etoilé group: http:// www.etoile-project.org/etoile/blog/2007/07/road-to-coreobject- part-1.html My comment: great idea, but when would you expect this to be widespread technology if you cant afford to