Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-30 Thread Joe Polcari
I tried a few of them, including this one. None worked. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 9.3 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 30, 2016, at 12:34 AM, IngeGNUe wrote: > >> On 03/29/16 22:09, Joe Polcari wrote: >> That's great if you've already degraded your security by having Siri

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread IngeGNUe
On 03/29/16 22:09, Joe Polcari wrote: > That's great if you've already degraded your security by having Siri listen > all the time. > If you haven't already compromised your own security, this won't work. > > HA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOMKF2FL3N0 There are other ways than with Siri :)

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread Joe Polcari
, 2016 6:53 PM To: discuss@blu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That On 03/28/16 20:14, Rich Pieri wrote: > An important bit of news came down a few hours ago. It reminded me > that I've harped on a couple of security points on this list over the years. &g

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread IngeGNUe
On 03/29/16 19:24, Rich Pieri wrote: > On 3/29/2016 6:52 PM, IngeGNUe wrote: >> Agreed. LOL I remember watching a YouTube video explaining how to bypass >> the iPhone's passcode. They took Apple to court over the screen lock?! > > No. Apple goaded the FBI into taking them to court for refusing to

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread Rich Pieri
On 3/29/2016 6:52 PM, IngeGNUe wrote: > Agreed. LOL I remember watching a YouTube video explaining how to bypass > the iPhone's passcode. They took Apple to court over the screen lock?! No. Apple goaded the FBI into taking them to court for refusing to assist law enforcement officers. This is a

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread IngeGNUe
On 03/28/16 20:14, Rich Pieri wrote: > An important bit of news came down a few hours ago. It reminded me that > I've harped on a couple of security points on this list over the years. > > One: physical security is paramount. > > Two: encryption is not a substitute for physical security. > >

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread Rich Pieri
On 3/29/2016 10:54 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: > If the world were magically to switch to Open Source Everything, > assuming physical security, is there an argument that this is somehow > insecure -- that some code needs to be secret in order for it to be > secure? Chip fabs, hardware

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread Rich Pieri
On 3/29/2016 10:55 AM, Bill Horne wrote: > I suppose there's a wheel within this wheel: perhaps someone with a > finger in the FBI's budget pie wanted to strong-arm a hefty campaign > contribution from Apple. It's also possible that Apple's execs wanted > some free ink and to boost the iPhone's

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Small
Bill Horne writes: > contribution from Apple. It's also possible that Apple's execs wanted > some free ink and to boost the iPhone's reputation for security, and > that everyone inside the beltway knew how this would play out months ago. Well that blew up in their faces. Oh,

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread Bill Horne
On 3/29/2016 1:48 AM, Bill Ricker wrote: ​(And this wasn't even the SBS's operational phone, it was his work phone, so it's still just posturing. They'll be back when they have something else they think public opinion might back them on.)​ The FBI's choice of case and approach have caused

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-29 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
If the world were magically to switch to Open Source Everything, assuming physical security, is there an argument that this is somehow insecure -- that some code needs to be secret in order for it to be secure? Chip fabs, hardware designs, missiles, attack systems, radar, networks, nuclear and

Re: [Discuss] Encrypt Everything? Good Luck With That

2016-03-28 Thread Bill Ricker
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Rich Pieri wrote: > One: physical security is paramount. > > Two: encryption is not a substitute for physical security. > ​Absolutely.​ And INFOSEC researchers understood this 30 years ago (i was there), so the older *&/or* better ones