[tdf-discuss] Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
hwhile goal for LibreOffice to pursue some of these lingering issues with tons of votes? Should they try to create the features that the community obviously wants that OOo is not providing? -- T. J. Brumfield "I'm questioning my education Rewind and what does it show? Could be, the truth

[tdf-discuss] Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
breOffice and reimplement them without the need to fire up a JVM? Is there a technical advantage of running the wizards and such in Java that I'm not aware of? Thanks! -- T. J. Brumfield "I'm questioning my education Rewind and what does it show? Could be, the truth it becomes you I'

[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice UI should be tweaked, not reinvented

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
we do our best to ease that transition? It would also be considerably less work than completely redesigning the UI from scratch. That is more time that could be dedicated to improving the project in other ways. -- T. J. Brumfield "I'm questioning my education Rewind and what does it sh

[tdf-discuss] Accessibility (was Java dependency)

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
I'm moving this into another thread. Jonathon suggested that LibO fails at accesibility requirements. Doing a few quick Google searches, it seems that OOo and thusly LibO uses the Java Accessibility API to enable the use of screen readers and braille devices. This is primarily used for Windows. On

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
The discussion of why companies should or can't migrate away from MS Office or proprietary document formats is a bit off-topic. I'm also assuming most of us have had this discussion at length before as well. I'm assuming if you're on this list that you are in favor of open software and open standar

Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
True. However, the good news is that the 2007 and 2010 formats are largely similar and are XML based. The old formats were binary and kept changing. Since the format isn't changing as much, and the new format is easier to reverse-engineer, now is a good opportunity for OOo/LibO to "catch up" and im

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice UI should be tweaked, not reinvented

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
ing > > an option for Word users to use Wordperfect key-mappings, and provided > > specific help for Wordperfect Users trying to migrate to Word. Since we > know > > most users coming to Lo/OOo are coming from Microsoft Office, shouldn't > we > > do our best to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
Can we get a list of all the components that require Java that would need to be reimplemented? With a list it would be easier to determine if it is feasible to replace those components. -- T. J. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Mirek M. wrote: > 2010/11/2 Marc Paré > > > Le 2010-11-02 15:14, F

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice UI should be tweaked, not reinvented

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
eventually you need something other than the basic icons on the Ribbon and you simply can't find those options. The trade-off is terrible. -- T. J. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Christoph Noack < christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi T.J.! > > Am Dienstag, den

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
I think there is a difference between removing Java as a dependency needed for out-of-the-box features, and blocking people from extending the application with Java extensions. I think keeping the Java UNO bridge does make sense, but users shouldn't need to fire up a JVM for basic/common functional

Re: [tdf-discuss] java / phone strategy ..

2010-11-03 Thread T. J. Brumfield
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Benjamin Horst wrote: > I expect the iPad and upcoming Android tablets to become the dominant > computing platform in developing countries--they are cheaper and make a > simple upgrade path from the mobile phones that are the primary means of > internet access in

[tdf-discuss] x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread T. J. Brumfield
it Windows build, shouldn't this be reevaluated? And from a pure perception standpoint, it looks like OOo/LibO is behind MS Office in this regard, given that MS Office offers a 64-bit version. Thanks! -- T. J. Brumfield "I'm questioning my education Rewind and what does it sho

Re: [tdf-discuss] x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread T. J. Brumfield
I do understand it isn't simply just a matter of compiling a 64-bit build. Knowing that it is on the TODO list is good enough for me! Thanks! On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Andras Timar wrote: > 2010/11/4 Frank Esposito : > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:36 AM, T. J. Bru

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread T. J. Brumfield
In all fairness, Android tablets could become a large emerging market, but Windows is still by far the predominant market. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > Quoting e-letter: > > In terms of priorities, making LO the default for mobile (e.g. >> android) is more important tha

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread T. J. Brumfield
on the primary platforms: Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Next should be platforms of the future. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > Quoting T. J. Brumfield: > > In all fairness, Android tablets could become a large emerging market, but >> Windows is still by far the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread T. J. Brumfield
developers to reexamine things that might have been passed over in the OOo community for whatever reason. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:38 PM, NoOp wrote: > On 11/02/2010 08:28 AM, T. J. Brumfield wrote: > > There were several old, often commented on, and often requested bug fixes > > an

Re: [tdf-discuss] Google now integrates with MSO, what about Libre/OO?

2010-11-22 Thread T. J. Brumfield
There are already OOo plugins that integrate OOo with Google Docs. They've been around for years. -- T. J. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Frank Esposito wrote: > Will this ever happen with Libre Office? > > Google Launches Plugin That Fuses Microsoft Office With Google > Docs< > http://techcr

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Google now integrates with MSO, what about Libre/OO?

2010-11-22 Thread T. J. Brumfield
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-11-22 14:02, Graham Lauder a écrit : > > On Tuesday 23 November 2010 06:29:01 Frank Esposito wrote: >> >>> Will this ever happen with Libre Office? >>> >>> Google Launches Plugin That Fuses Microsoft Office With Google >>> Docs< >>> http

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread T. J. Brumfield
There are open software stacks with various CMS tools where you can combine wiki, blog, forum, and FAQ functionality together. A community site could have articles on the front end to help demonstate features, provide tutorials, expose new templates and extensions, etc. Users can provide comments