[tdf-discuss] Re: New name

2010-10-04 Thread e-letter
I like Staroffice (remember that? :)) A logo could be built around a star and a series of adjacent logos indicative of an office document type (writer, calc, impress). Not a serious idea; just a personal opinion. -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to

[tdf-discuss] Re: New name

2010-10-05 Thread e-letter
I don't like LibO because I don't like medial capitals (!). For me LO to mean Liberty Office (Software). -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are

[tdf-discuss] mailing list digest mode functionality

2010-10-18 Thread e-letter
Below is an example of how the digest mode appears using the 'reply' e-mail function: On 18/10/2010, discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Topics (messages 1671 through 1700): [tdf-discuss] We're on slashdot 1671 - Per Eriksson

[tdf-discuss] unable to reply quickly to mailing list posts

2010-11-04 Thread e-letter
On 04/11/2010, discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Topics (messages 2591 through 2620): [tdf-discuss] java / phone strategy .. 2591 - Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency 2592 - Kohei Yoshida

[tdf-discuss] Re: unable to reply quickly to mailing list posts

2010-11-04 Thread e-letter
Not sure what you mean by attached; in web-mail the messages when received are inline (in the body of the message). The number before each message is irrelevant; as I stated, all messages do not appear in the 'reply' text box. For comparison in digest mode behaviour, see

[tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-04 Thread e-letter
In terms of priorities, making LO the default for mobile (e.g. android) is more important than windoze. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive:

[tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread e-letter
LO is never going to overcome m$ products on their own platform(s). The biggest market potential by far is mobile devices for ODF to become the default format. The majority of people in the world are being introduced to technology via mobile devices; banking, money transfer, product

[tdf-discuss] LO mobile phone version

2010-11-05 Thread e-letter
In consideration of the previous posts ('Re: x86_64 Windows build', http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02649.html), what is the mechanism that a project can be proposed to develop LO mobile edition, get funding from Android or similar as suggested? -- Unsubscribe

[tdf-discuss] Re: priorising feature-requests was: LO mobile phone version

2010-11-05 Thread e-letter
So what happens next? Should the suggestion for LO mobile version remain in the mailing list archive until the proposals structure is created? Is any member of the decision-making entity able to say now whether this proposal is to rejected or accepted? -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to

[tdf-discuss] Why LO mobile version should not be ignored

2010-11-16 Thread e-letter
Related to an earlier post (http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02677.html), the following news article hyperlink (http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2010/11/12/ghanaian-sms-start-up-tackles-fake-drug-scourge/) is an interesting application of mobile phone technology and

[tdf-discuss] Loss of formula in open document spreadsheet via excel

2011-01-11 Thread e-letter
Readers, Admittedly not using LO but the predecessor calc, recently realised that if a spreadsheet is created using calc and saved in native ods format, upon open using m$excel the formulas of a cell disappear to leave only the total value? Yet if calc is used to create the same spreadsheet and

[tdf-discuss] feature request, calc cell content copy behaviour

2011-01-28 Thread e-letter
Readers, m$ excel allows content in cells a1, a3, a5 to be selected and copied to a7, a9, a11. This is not possible in calc. A feature request please. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ ***

Live online testing of LibreOffice (WebLive) as: Re: [tdf-discuss] Request for Libre Office on Spoon

2011-04-21 Thread e-letter
Video in HTML5 would be even better... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be

[tdf-discuss] Re: Question about proposing the creation of a new format

2011-04-26 Thread e-letter
I think this is a very interesting issue. We are moving from the dominant technologies that were designed to put information on paper to the dominant need of presenting information on screens. With the revolution in digital readers this is only going to increase and then what relevance has

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-29 Thread e-letter
As I said, I'm sure Bill Gates said leave those toy phones to Nokia, RIM and Apple. Google seem to have been smarter. As mobile and web technologies take over I can see much harder times ahead for anyone dependent on local dependencies. Those reliant of distant web servers without no knowledge

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question

2011-05-03 Thread e-letter
Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question From: Pieter E. Zanstra pie...@zanstra.eu Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:35:39 +0200 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Om the basis of the discussions going on at this list, I do share your analysis as expressed in:

[tdf-discuss] mailing list content disappearance

2011-05-13 Thread e-letter
On 13/05/2011, discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Topics (messages 6130 through 6131): [tdf-discuss] Re: Paid Developers 6130 - Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com 6131 - ??? m...@marcpare.com When can someone improve mailing list

[tdf-discuss] Re: Paid developers

2011-05-13 Thread e-letter
On 12 May 2011 17:55, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2011-05-11 17:01, Samuel M a écrit : I believe, that The Document Foundation can employ Developers for LibreOffice. I believe the community is able to get the money for that on a monthly base. We saw that the community was able

[tdf-discuss] Re: Paid developers

2011-05-14 Thread e-letter
On 13 May 2011 21:50, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 May 2011 17:55, Marc Par=E9 m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2011-05-11 17:01, Samuel M a =E9crit : I believe, that The Document Foundation can employ Developers for LibreOffice. I believe the community is able to get the money

[tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread e-letter
Keeping OO separate from LO is a good thing overall; more actors in the open source office software sector gives healthy competition (like Opera and Firefox for web browsers), innovation and shows m$ users the benefits of using a non-proprietary document format. -- Unsubscribe instructions:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-27 Thread e-letter
This message sent previously failed to be accepted my the mail server; being resent in two parts. Part one of two On 26/05/2011, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: e-letter schrieb: A link would not show the behaviour; Thanks for your estimation. My intention was rather to have easy access

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-27 Thread e-letter
6273 - Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers) 6274 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com [tdf-discuss] Fwd: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community 6275 - Florian Effenberger flo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-28 Thread e-letter
A hyperlink to gnuplot was provided (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.gnuplot.user/5655) but as originally stated, how this would help is not understood. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation'sIncubator

2011-06-03 Thread e-letter
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org From: Harold Fuchs hwfa.libreoff...@gmail.com Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation'sIncubator Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:30:55 +0100 Lines: 44 Message-ID: isa9ko$p1i$1...@dough.gmane.org References:

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-05 Thread e-letter
DF programmers should join the Apache OO committee merely to be aware of activities in this product. LO should remain separate as a full GPL product. Presumably, if DF members become aware of feature X becoming imminent in apache OO, they can make a proposal for a similar feature to be

Re: [tdf-discuss] New LibreOffice Reader Eliminates Need for PDF Reader

2011-07-05 Thread e-letter
As far as the request for the ability to download individual components of LO, this should not be enabled. The whole concept of the predecessor staroffice product was to provide various functionalities in terms of word-processing, spreadsheets, drawing, etc. and this should be continued. Those

[tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-20 Thread e-letter
On the users mailing list, a significant proportion of a random view of questions seems to be with relation to using LO is some way with m$ document formats. What should be the priority of LO development: bug-free and excellent behaviour in native odt format, or minimising interoperability issues

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-21 Thread e-letter
On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: I might also conclude that there is NO reason to support any other file format either. I mean, really, why should I support a non-ODF format? PDF generation? Remove it! Any other office file format? Remove it! Why single out

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-22 Thread e-letter
On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 07/21/2011 08:47 AM, e-letter wrote: On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyakand...@pitonyak.org wrote I am more comfortable in OOo than I am in MSO, so, I have created many MSO deliverables in OOo and LO. The only time that I

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-22 Thread e-letter
On 21/07/2011, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Yes, don't confuse ODF compatibility with OpenOffice.org (or LibreOffice) compatibility. I was in the room on one occasion when Microsoft was asking for advice on their approach to ODF 1.1 Spreadsheet documents. Unfortunately,

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-24 Thread e-letter
On 22/07/2011, Christophe Strobbe christophe.stro...@esat.kuleuven.be wrote: At 02:33 21-7-2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 07/20/2011 05:02 PM, e-letter wrote: On the users mailing list, a significant proportion of a random view of questions seems to be with relation to using LO

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-24 Thread e-letter
On 22/07/2011, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/07/2011 15:24, e-letter wrote: Fine. People are/should be free to choose whichever program they prefer. If someone likes the interface of m$o, good for them. The point of the original post, is that priority should be for LO

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-24 Thread e-letter
On 23/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 07/22/2011 10:24 AM, e-letter wrote: On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyakand...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 07/21/2011 08:47 AM, e-letter wrote: On 21/07/2011, Andrew Douglas Pitonyakand...@pitonyak.org wrote I am more

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-30 Thread e-letter
On 23/07/2011, Mark Preston m...@mpreston.demon.co.uk wrote: Look, lets be honest about this - Microsoft has by far the largest proportion of legacy documents out there and there is no way that people can manage without access to those documents. Apart from anything else, the law will require

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-30 Thread e-letter
On 27/07/2011, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote: Andrew , Others I agree with the point of view of Andrew. Please make LO OPEN as maximum as possible different formats. I say open not SAVE as... We are a Editing House where our 30 fulltime journalists using OO (forced by us), the

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-30 Thread e-letter
This topic has revealed the following personal observations. People seem to want LO to be an exact clone of m$ where they can perform the same m$ tasks, produce the same m$ output, without paying m$. They happen to have a convenient choice in another product (LO) that perhaps is more

Re: [tdf-discuss] More statistics

2011-08-06 Thread e-letter
On 05/08/2011, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for top posting, writing from the smartphone. We will be improving the statistics, but do not expect anything before the conference in Paris (where we will make a specific presentation). Off-topic but I think you could try k9

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Calc] Feature Request - charts : error bars + broken axes

2011-08-10 Thread e-letter
You can achieve these tasks using gnuplot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:

[tdf-discuss] feature expansion or bug minimisation?

2011-08-11 Thread e-letter
Readers, A recent feature request prompted the strategic question: what is more important, minimising bugs or adding new features? Of course, the ideal answer is to do both (;)), but remember, the question is to choose only one answer... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Microsoft Word 2007 XML(*.docx) format does not correctly save numbering edits.

2011-09-04 Thread e-letter
On 02/09/2011, M Robinson mr.m.robin...@gmail.com wrote: LibreOffice 3.4.0 OOO340m1 (Build:12) I've tried this repeatedly, when I generate lines of text, number them (F12), delete every other line number, save in Microsoft Word 2007 XML (*.docx) format the results are always the same

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Microsoft Word 2007 XML(*.docx) format does not correctly save numbering edits.

2011-09-04 Thread e-letter
On 04/09/2011, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi e-letter, e-letter wrote (04-09-11 10:31) These typical m$ queries are irrelevant to LO. If you want to create m$ documents, get money out of your pocket and pay for m$o. If the expected and desired behaviour occurs with the native odt

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Microsoft Word 2007 XML(*.docx) format does not correctly save numbering edits.

2011-09-04 Thread e-letter
On 04/09/2011, Mike Hall mike.h...@onepoyle.net wrote: ... Unfortunately they aren't irrelevant. If only life were that simple. Whether or not you have a copy of MSO, to communicate with other people and companies it is frequently necessary to write .doc or .docx files. Then you should buy m$o

[tdf-discuss] feature request help, styles management

2011-09-20 Thread e-letter
Readers, This question concerns how to improve management of styles between writer and impress modules. Please read the following previous thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg10780.html Would appreciate some guidance to make progress, in terms of how to make a

Re: [tdf-discuss] ODF and HTML 5

2011-10-04 Thread e-letter
Having become a fan of the flat xml format, this option in LO seems most interesting and viable. An often ignored feature of OO was the ability to create xforms (still evident in LO? No idea). The initial question to understand is when flat xml LO documents are most appropriate instead of the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Status of .docX etc.

2011-12-14 Thread e-letter
On 13/12/2011, Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone please either explain or point me at a detailed explanation of the current status of LO vis à vis the new MS office document formats docx, xlsx etc. Here we go again: please explain why you can't afford to buy m$???

Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness

2013-02-13 Thread e-letter
On 07/02/2013, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid