Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Pedro, 2012/1/22 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Hello Pedro, 2012/1/21 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com Hi Charles Charles-H. Schulz wrote - if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has the floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-23 Thread Pedro
Charles-H. Schulz wrote So the iconset was indeed changed at the Beta 3 (I had the beta 2 running) and no, it was not well communicated, but the discussion took place on ux-advise and the design list. I also remained (deliberately) on Beta2 in order to test the Update mechanism. I jumped

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
2012/1/23 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com Charles-H. Schulz wrote So the iconset was indeed changed at the Beta 3 (I had the beta 2 running) and no, it was not well communicated, but the discussion took place on ux-advise and the design list. I also remained (deliberately) on Beta2 in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Pedro, 2012/1/21 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com Hi Charles Charles-H. Schulz wrote - if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has the floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone provided a replacement icon. It certainly has under Windows. Hmm... it

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-22 Thread Pedro
Hi again Charles Charles-H. Schulz wrote Hmm... it does not make sense (not what you say, but what's going on), because we don't ship different icons -under the same iconset- on different platforms. I do believe you, but would you be so kind as taking a screenshot of your screen and post

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-22 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Pedro, *, Am 22.01.2012 13:43 schrieb Pedro: [..] I just think it that it doesn't make sense to change things that users rely on just because you can. +1 Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images -- Unsubscribe

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Apparently someone decided that it was a good idea to replace the Floppy icon. I'm sorry I didn't get a change to vote (if there was any voting) Personally I think that regardless if people know what a Floppy is, they recognized that symbol as the Save icon (basically a blue square with a white

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby
On 21/01/12 16:21, Pedro wrote: Apparently someone decided that it was a good idea to replace the Floppy icon. I'm sorry I didn't get a change to vote (if there was any voting) Personally I think that regardless if people know what a Floppy is, they recognized that symbol as the Save icon

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have to manually switch to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby
On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby
On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Terry Warby wrote Just did a quick check and it seams that of the icon sets I have installed only the tango icon sets don't use the floppy icon. This was probably covered earlier in the thread! At least I can't find any decision or voting... That is what I'm trying to understand. --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Tony Pursell
Terry On 21 January 2012 17:15, Terry Warby twcw.chenh...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, 2012/1/21 Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk Terry On 21 January 2012 17:15, Terry Warby twcw.chenh...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Hi Charles Charles-H. Schulz wrote - if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has the floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone provided a replacement icon. It certainly has under Windows. Charles-H. Schulz wrote Again I don't remember it was the case, but

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-13 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:01:26 - Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com wrote: The icon for opening a previously saved document is an open folder with a curved arrow pointing *out of* it. If a change to the Save icon is deemed necessary, perhaps it could become the same open folder

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-13 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I have seen a bunch of discussion related to get rid of Floppy Disk because it is antiquated, but I am unclear on the qualifications of the people making the decisions. Is this just a random opinion one way or another, or are the participants somehow qualified or familiar with human factors,

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-12 Thread Harold Fuchs
v...@ukr.net wrote in message news:20120112001553.6c327f8b.v...@ukr.net... I like the floppy icon. HDD icon is being broadly used nowadays, but as somebody pointed in this thread, not every user is familiar with computer inside, so changing from one thing that they haven't seen to another

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2011-12-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Erich Christian wrote (30-12-11 11:45) I'd go for a change, neither elderly people nor 'youngsters' associate anything useful with the symbol. Having asked my teenagers (13, 16, 19) who are familiar with computers ever since, they cannot remember floppy although I've been using some until a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2011-12-30 Thread M Robinson
On 12/29/2011 5:23 AM, Tony Pursell wrote: On 29 December 2011 00:29, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 12/28/2011 03:59 PM, NoOp wrote: On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: ... Until I checked it out just now, I didn't realise that the Save icon used in the Ubuntu version of LO

[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2011-12-30 Thread NoOp
On 12/30/2011 08:12 AM, M Robinson wrote: ... I haven't heard of Delete/Eraser that works as well on SSDs as traditional hard drives. That said USB will be the most common storage media soon enough. Who saves to CDs at work? I don't think the icon is a big deal, the whole interface is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2011-12-30 Thread Robert Derman
M Robinson wrote: SNIP I haven't heard of Delete/Eraser that works as well on SSDs as traditional hard drives. That said USB will be the most common storage media soon enough. Who saves to CDs at work? I don't think the icon is a big deal, the whole interface is dated, I pitched a Firefox

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2011-12-30 Thread M Henri Day
2011/12/30 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net On 12/30/2011 08:12 AM, M Robinson wrote: ... I haven't heard of Delete/Eraser that works as well on SSDs as traditional hard drives. That said USB will be the most common storage media soon enough. Who saves to CDs at work? I don't think the icon

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2011-12-29 Thread Tony Pursell
On 29 December 2011 00:29, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 12/28/2011 03:59 PM, NoOp wrote: On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: ... Until I checked it out just now, I didn't realise that the Save icon used in the Ubuntu version of LO is actually a broad green downward arrow

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2011-12-29 Thread Danishka Navin
next generation won't find a floppy disk in real life. we better use some thing else On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.ukwrote: On 29 December 2011 00:29, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 12/28/2011 03:59 PM, NoOp wrote: On 12/28/2011 02:46 PM,