Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?

2013-02-20 Thread Pedro
Italo, you are a firm defender of LibreOffice but sometimes your hate for AOO
and Rob Weir blind you and then you loose any argument.


italovignoli wrote
> Do you really believe that a Mongolian who was used to use OOo in
> Mongolian is happy to use AOO in English? This is just an example, but
> the concept is exactly the same for another 80 languages, which might be
> minor for someone speaking only English but are not minor for the people
> speaking that language.

No one mentioned updates. The statistics are for downloads per country. And
yes, there are for sure many Mongolians that speak and read English and are
happy to use a software in English. I am Portuguese but I prefer to use the
software in English.

Assuming that people can only use a software if it is available in their
native language is both absurd and paternalist.

In any case I agree with a previous argument


> Instead of advertising the value of Free Software to the public (and
> LibreOffice is Free Software as AOO also is), you only think in a
> LibreOffice versus AOO pattern. 

As a Director of the Document Foundation it would be much more interesting
if you provided similar information ABOUT LibreOffice  instead of AGAINST
AOO...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?

2013-02-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 2/19/13 7:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> SourceForge reports downloads by country.  It appears that the number of
> languages supported does not limit the locations where the downloads happen
> (although destination country is necessarily an estimate, just as it is on
> the ClustrMap of visitors to my web sites).  

Do you really believe that a Mongolian who was used to use OOo in
Mongolian is happy to use AOO in English? This is just an example, but
the concept is exactly the same for another 80 languages, which might be
minor for someone speaking only English but are not minor for the people
speaking that language.

The update mechanism suggests the Mongolian to download the new version,
but I really wonder that the new version in English will be used at all.
Of course, the concept is difficult to explain to someone speaking only
English, and willing to spread false information.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?

2013-02-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
SourceForge reports downloads by country.  It appears that the number of
languages supported does not limit the locations where the downloads happen
(although destination country is necessarily an estimate, just as it is on
the ClustrMap of visitors to my web sites).  

I assume that as language versions increase (as just happened in a refresh
of AOO 3.4.1), the proportion of downloads will improve for countries where
those languages are used/preferred by someone.

 - Dennis  

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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] How did AOO figure it was
worth $21 Million dollars a day or $7 billion per year?

On 2/19/13 6:20 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

> I suspect they multiply the standard package price of MS Office and
> multiply that by their numbers of stated downloads, then divide it by
> 365. At least that's how I would do it.

Average number of downloads per day, multiplied by 150 dollars (which is
the inflated average price of MS Office Home, as the price is less than
80 dollars now).

By the way, they claim 236 countries and territories while their
language versions are around 10% than that. Huge FUD by the master of
IBM FUD, Mister Robert Weir.

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