Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
Agreed but the problem is if lets say OOo have the rather buggy writer available and its free. which do you think people would prefer to go with? On 09/04/2011 00:35, Laurence Jeloudev wrote: Even if you had to pay for the apps it would help gain revenue for LO in the mobile market especially for iOS. Sent from my iPhone On 09/04/2011, at 5:17 AM, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garzagar...@gmail.com wrote: For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only Clac, Writer Impress are needed urgently! Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance. Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps. If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum. Cheers! On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rmetoddrme2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, tokitoki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a touch-based device. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
If LO didn't have any bugs and it worked very well compared to the free version of a bugged OO that had many problems then people would choose to buy LO because obviously they see the benefits of using a free version on there desktop of LO that doesn't have many bugs that are as bad as OO so they would buy the mobile version assuming it would be the same. It's as long as the product works and is easy to use. Sent from my iPhone On 09/04/2011, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed but the problem is if lets say OOo have the rather buggy writer available and its free. which do you think people would prefer to go with? On 09/04/2011 00:35, Laurence Jeloudev wrote: Even if you had to pay for the apps it would help gain revenue for LO in the mobile market especially for iOS. Sent from my iPhone On 09/04/2011, at 5:17 AM, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garzagar...@gmail.com wrote: For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only Clac, Writer Impress are needed urgently! Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance. Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps. If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum. Cheers! On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rmetoddrme2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, tokitoki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a touch-based device. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only Clac, Writer Impress are needed urgently! If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum. Cheers! On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a touch-based device. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2011 18:19, Jaime R. Garza wrote: http://tomtasche.at/p/OpenOffice%20Document%20Reader#article That program has not opened any of my ODT documents. Reading the marketplace comments, it looks like it can only open documents that are extremely small. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNn1cuAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVbYUH/2nHMs/r8NwoBcb4ZA0Nhu/O xE2cq2etTtHEQpFbjSD0GPyQs1I9H1BxS935iwExmlS3Y7Ew74FXqr30lJCCIOmw CG7xfLbCypiOnU8jQ3pK4db7KOxFrI3TC2Ygszn6KwD0gnEt79LuBAqoOEl3t7mQ xD+Z/7UXpPjStjRhFeMZgJVv6vPZgLGfjw7n0ExZEG0F4GXbz6O9t28PLrXOiPV3 HMrFSldCfcU8tcafJhvJgiakvrxXdveat3hkqIW+TBDTOGaXEyEnLqiBlJcCH+R4 Vgin2BqoMm6eyV9/i2sRbpW0ov3JNI7H25AfiN1SpqbQsTz8/C9HAuOgBOgVD1E= =UdSW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote: For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only Clac, Writer Impress are needed urgently! Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance. Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps. If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum. Cheers! On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a touch-based device. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
Even if you had to pay for the apps it would help gain revenue for LO in the mobile market especially for iOS. Sent from my iPhone On 09/04/2011, at 5:17 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote: For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only Clac, Writer Impress are needed urgently! Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance. Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps. If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum. Cheers! On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme toddrme2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a touch-based device. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnU1sAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVBmAIANg52ryguy7l09mNuIh3TnzJ mrQG6Mv7ZIwsEyuzojMMVuSDGfL83o3Hn5YY31ZOHxYjG+aniFaLrjpvwdMaLYUU KDLTwcrg2D6rQqpT1N+rATpGzcPZlj8mDEWpnn591fiE3pejzkCm/7WAHs4dZhRE A+PAtrUv628ZU79eNSEv7/uRBI72MSC04wp8ZxDmQARrloB/Mt4csK0aZgmCZ3W9 B99bdT+Q645EpPllDmqj6lYbE9vUb4lnRZ86O8P+AqY9TnKyphZ6ydorPTJY+3LA wrZCen+06zf53pmVda73NwfAEXT5EgaYmOmALgh2fZC9hi0R+x7J0Uh+2aPNuwk= =p+gI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a touch-based device. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2011 00:05, MiguelAngel wrote: to waste the efforts to get Libo or OOo runing in Android or similar, and use in a four-six inches windows, for to do what? My little android device has more RAM, more file storage space, a faster chip, and a larger screen than the original Kaypro has. I do have an app on my little Android device that can open ODF spreadsheets, but not ODF text documents. If I didn't have so many other projects, I'd be spending time porting most of the software I use on my *Nix box to Android. As it is, I have to make time porting at least two of those *Nix applications to Android. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnDvWAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVjwQIALN0NsQxmV8lr3j1rNQ6f/wv fRiwHkUyJaPa1NScNx8MypK+E/9zNWbaIHOQSl+CbTY7LGlhZGQTueUVjpAjpAxK Ek91DKnkKoTodxGZSU1QcvaZQXstQq9QhTV/aBkfrH+c7OwTd9Zcx+Ggakveq4dq 9FptokgBozvGycaWOkc+oV383eQha5hG7KWbPndFo7VcSB6n5X3jlGmHm/IxbeYQ tT7bxGJnHzvyqDu09a1tAH8UzjFiNjsmwjwIXBGViC6IINPosfK/yiV3Q5K1EmhA RfT4uRf9s1J96coBpqivo/PGiFNdROFH9FD+PXf0oT09IwGjuiZP0DU13j3nGRE= =j5Db -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/2011 22:11, Denny wrote: When pointing out competitors, there are a lot more I think. One I would add to the list is Softmaker Office (http://www.softmaker.com) Looking at the app marketplace for my Android device. * Documents To Go; * OfficeSuite Pro; * QuickOffice Pro; * ThinkFree Office Mobile; * OliveOffice Premium; * AndroOffice: Claims to edit ODF Spreadsheets: This is a spreadsheet only application; * 8x8 Virtual Office: Office Suite in their cloud; * CloudDesk: Office suite in their cloud; * E-Cell xls Pro: Spreadsheet only; * Picsel Smart Office; * Netfront Life Documents; * Spreadsheet: Spreadsheet only; * Simple Spreadsheet: Spreadsheet only; * K2 Document Viewer: Does not edit documents; * VPC: Office Chrome; Unless otherwise stated, those programs do not support ODF files. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnEHmAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVB9IIAMjCopExypjtuu3Vq5D9/KuJ sYPfVXA32CQt9baHY5M1cCQEJnmaBnXIfpX2SUqZEIwbcXWsxjMswo7V3aUlx84k C7F6IvGXlKhPODs+rxXHKsXBEnNVMOcgKxn2ViYNItfjq9Hqloc1tacY8ZYYc0eE rWVJbqB8IYHT7+BAF9uLlrPDUOLv/cANQIpkWi5hx8FhNvYriraaSELvhQX6V8If 2K2Ztxp7fRWbTFXlOJmtQXgUxFglvEy1ArX4DzHp8uDfAFSx89NQmsTRjEpQ1T/Y qfgubHSWkoEo4Uwc6JwqY73wWWOhc/JiRYolbbnQxf9a62PtX37bGtViXrMluu4= =OThP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
I have a statement from Thinkfree, that they will support ODF in the next version. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:35, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/2011 22:11, Denny wrote: When pointing out competitors, there are a lot more I think. One I would add to the list is Softmaker Office (http://www.softmaker.com) Looking at the app marketplace for my Android device. * Documents To Go; * OfficeSuite Pro; * QuickOffice Pro; * ThinkFree Office Mobile; * OliveOffice Premium; * AndroOffice: Claims to edit ODF Spreadsheets: This is a spreadsheet only application; * 8x8 Virtual Office: Office Suite in their cloud; * CloudDesk: Office suite in their cloud; * E-Cell xls Pro: Spreadsheet only; * Picsel Smart Office; * Netfront Life Documents; * Spreadsheet: Spreadsheet only; * Simple Spreadsheet: Spreadsheet only; * K2 Document Viewer: Does not edit documents; * VPC: Office Chrome; Unless otherwise stated, those programs do not support ODF files. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnEHmAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVB9IIAMjCopExypjtuu3Vq5D9/KuJ sYPfVXA32CQt9baHY5M1cCQEJnmaBnXIfpX2SUqZEIwbcXWsxjMswo7V3aUlx84k C7F6IvGXlKhPODs+rxXHKsXBEnNVMOcgKxn2ViYNItfjq9Hqloc1tacY8ZYYc0eE rWVJbqB8IYHT7+BAF9uLlrPDUOLv/cANQIpkWi5hx8FhNvYriraaSELvhQX6V8If 2K2Ztxp7fRWbTFXlOJmtQXgUxFglvEy1ArX4DzHp8uDfAFSx89NQmsTRjEpQ1T/Y qfgubHSWkoEo4Uwc6JwqY73wWWOhc/JiRYolbbnQxf9a62PtX37bGtViXrMluu4= =OThP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2011 10:59, Jaime R. Garza wrote: I have a statement from Thinkfree, that they will support ODF in the next version. I'll believe that _after_ the next version is released. With ThinkFree, their claims and the actuality are, in my experience, discongruent with each other. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnE2SAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVyxMIAMZJXxW2MLBEcKw4Pzw0X3Go 2f629Nxq5wawdW/VYEUhIm+Z5VLvOLTftO96wh8SvE934k6/Q1JTSNwJyn3YAbxJ /DcDh50F7EmzOasFB91lUuSZk0K7xA9i3jFso19Ggd4402MYVgayRdV2d6qIt35K S1pCkCCgCLd3IquWX2yPO/98ihH31SxPWU7VNvFgfs/85a5kILL2U+hPWC/tbPii Wz2EC8Q8noHGmWqhrbc3REjnbAREVb+aV5Jm9gQh5dDFOEzbm64YHbNxhYKi9zsJ B8yiR2yvh3Mf+7m3ObA0zK03vuAERBKlI4AiiyK0kldFBg2QN+hpHnNj8x+TZbg= =aOiH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:25 PM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2011 10:59, Jaime R. Garza wrote: I have a statement from Thinkfree, that they will support ODF in the next version. I'll believe that _after_ the next version is released. With ThinkFree, their claims and the actuality are, in my experience, discongruent with each other. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnE2SAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVyxMIAMZJXxW2MLBEcKw4Pzw0X3Go 2f629Nxq5wawdW/VYEUhIm+Z5VLvOLTftO96wh8SvE934k6/Q1JTSNwJyn3YAbxJ /DcDh50F7EmzOasFB91lUuSZk0K7xA9i3jFso19Ggd4402MYVgayRdV2d6qIt35K S1pCkCCgCLd3IquWX2yPO/98ihH31SxPWU7VNvFgfs/85a5kILL2U+hPWC/tbPii Wz2EC8Q8noHGmWqhrbc3REjnbAREVb+aV5Jm9gQh5dDFOEzbm64YHbNxhYKi9zsJ B8yiR2yvh3Mf+7m3ObA0zK03vuAERBKlI4AiiyK0kldFBg2QN+hpHnNj8x+TZbg= =aOiH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
For me, there is no sense in the discussion, in a couple of years or less, the new phones will have the power to run any OS, like Linux or Windows, surely they can now. It's the better way, to waste the efforts to get Libo or OOo runing in Android or similar, and use in a four-six inches windows, for to do what? I'm an intensive user of Libo (Calc-Write-Base) and I never use s my HTHD2 4.2' with Ms mobile office to work. M.A. Ríos -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
In data giovedì 31 marzo 2011 17:32:45, Jaime R. Garza ha scritto: Hello Stefan , disadvise? It's not about advise or not, is about platform-independence! Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the defacto-standards) and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS. The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android iOS. (1) They plan to support ODF on the next version. (2) Yes, exactly as MSOffice Please, don't top quote. This said, are any of you involved in business? If so, maybe you use a Blackberry phone. So let's start to think to create *also* a light version for Blackberry OS. Enterprises would also accept to pay a little fee for it, helping its development and the foundation, I suppose. Ciao -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:53, Valter Mura valterm...@gmail.com wrote: In data giovedì 31 marzo 2011 17:32:45, Jaime R. Garza ha scritto: Please, don't top quote. This said, are any of you involved in business? If so, maybe you use a Blackberry phone. So let's start to think to create *also* a light version for Blackberry OS. Enterprises would also accept to pay a little fee for it, helping its development and the foundation, I suppose. Ciao -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org About the top quote, it this how it's supposed to be? Isn't it better the other way? At least for me it is. About being involved in a business, yes I am, I work for a large company (around 400,000 employees). About the Blackberry, I really think is more important to see into the future, where Android iPhone will dominate, even in the Business. And please don't forget that even RIM (makers of Blackberry) has decided to produce compatibility to Android apps. We are are analyzing which Office Suite to use for non-Windows devices, and probably Thinkfree is going to win, since there is no other real contender. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
Hello Jaime, Le Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:16:48 +0200, Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com a écrit : On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:53, Valter Mura valterm...@gmail.com wrote: In data giovedì 31 marzo 2011 17:32:45, Jaime R. Garza ha scritto: Please, don't top quote. This said, are any of you involved in business? If so, maybe you use a Blackberry phone. So let's start to think to create *also* a light version for Blackberry OS. Enterprises would also accept to pay a little fee for it, helping its development and the foundation, I suppose. Ciao -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org About the top quote, it this how it's supposed to be? Isn't it better the other way? At least for me it is. About being involved in a business, yes I am, I work for a large company (around 400,000 employees). About the Blackberry, I really think is more important to see into the future, where Android iPhone will dominate, even in the Business. And please don't forget that even RIM (makers of Blackberry) has decided to produce compatibility to Android apps. We are are analyzing which Office Suite to use for non-Windows devices, and probably Thinkfree is going to win, since there is no other real contender. If you work for such a large corporation/entity, then perhaps your employer would be interested in funding the initiative of porting LibreOffice to mobile platform(s), or even send in some developers. Otherwise we will have to do this on our own timing and resources I'm afraid. Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 15:54, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello Jaime, Le Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:16:48 +0200, Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com a écrit : If you work for such a large corporation/entity, then perhaps your employer would be interested in funding the initiative of porting LibreOffice to mobile platform(s), or even send in some developers. Otherwise we will have to do this on our own timing and resources I'm afraid. Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. Saddly they are not willing to wait, they want something that's already there now and working. So that's why it seem that they will go with Thinkfree for now. Because it has a great intercompatibility with MSOffice 2003 formats and it runns on everything, even Android iPads. The license costs of Thinkfree are extremely low in comparison with MSOffice. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
When pointing out competitors, there are a lot more I think. One I would add to the list is Softmaker Office (http://www.softmaker.com) Denny Am Donnerstag, 31. März 2011, 15:39:17 schrieb Jaime R. Garza: Dear all, I have read that some of you believe there are no other true competitors to MSOffice, but LO OO. There is a simple Office Suite (simple because it only has spreadsheet, wordprocessor and presentations) but is becoming very popular, specially in the enterprise, since it runs everywhere, including iOS (iPhones iPads) and Android phones and tablets. The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree http://www.thinkfree.com/ It would be great if there was a simple version of LO with only these three apps and that would run under Android iOS. Cheers! Jaime R. Garza -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
Hi, Am 31.03.2011 15:39, schrieb Jaime R. Garza: The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree http://www.thinkfree.com/ (1) It does not support the ISO Standard for document file formats, does it? (2) It is proprietary software, isn't? For me, two heavy reasons to disadvise this software. ;-) Stefan :-) -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted*
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
Hello Stefan , disadvise? It's not about advise or not, is about platform-independence! Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the defacto-standards) and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS. The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android iOS. (1) They plan to support ODF on the next version. (2) Yes, exactly as MSOffice ;-) On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 16:21, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: Hi, Am 31.03.2011 15:39, schrieb Jaime R. Garza: The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree http://www.thinkfree.com/ (1) It does not support the ISO Standard for document file formats, does it? (2) It is proprietary software, isn't? For me, two heavy reasons to disadvise this software. ;-) Stefan :-) -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted* -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted*
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
Hi, interesting discussion. Am 31.03.2011 17:32, schrieb Jaime R. Garza: disadvise? Well, I consistently advise to use free software (not freeware!) and open standards. Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the defacto-standards) Hm. The fact, that most people are using it, doesn´t make a standard. and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS. A big advantage, no doubt. The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android iOS. This would mean to recode the whole Software from scratch, I fear. However, as far as I understand, LibreOffice developers are very well aware of the desire of running the suite on mobile devices. It somehow is wishful thinking. ;-) :-) Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted*
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
On 31/03/2011 17:51, Stefan Weigel wrote: Hi, interesting discussion. Am 31.03.2011 17:32, schrieb Jaime R. Garza: disadvise? Well, I consistently advise to use free software (not freeware!) and open standards. Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the defacto-standards) Hm. The fact, that most people are using it, doesn´t make a standard. and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS. A big advantage, no doubt. The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android iOS. This would mean to recode the whole Software from scratch, I fear. However, as far as I understand, LibreOffice developers are very well aware of the desire of running the suite on mobile devices. It somehow is wishful thinking. ;-) :-) Stefan It is not wishful thinking. Someone as part of the GSoC (google summer of code) is working on getting LO on android. Mac is a problem due to licensing, the big chunks of code which are licensed form oracle would have to go or be rewritten, and everything also licensed with the appropriate license for mac to get it accepted into the app store -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted*
