Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
+1

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Lucian Oprea  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The idea to start with fewer boards is very good. In the future, if needed
> you can create new categories and forums and move there specific messages.
> Waiting for opinions and then modify the proposal.
>
> Best regards,
> Lucian
>
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> Pe 27.09.2012 16:24, Jonathan Aquilina a scris:
>
>> As Christian suggested I think the main sections of the forum to start out
>> with are sections for writer, calc, etc. What do you guys think would
>> those
>> be good things to initially start with?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <
>> and...@pitonyak.org> wrote:
>>
>>  I do not totally agree Christian details inline...
>>>
>>> That said, your summary was easier for me to read than the list...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/27/2012 08:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>>
>>>  Where's the difference between "General Discussion" & "Lounge" (or
 whatever name will be chosen) - it is not clear to me.

  I assume that it is an off "topic forum" where you can ask anything
>>> about
>>> anything (well, mostly anyway). Just guessing.
>>>
>>>
>>>   ###
>>>
 I don't think there is a need for an installation & configuration
 category, let alone individual forums for each OS.

 Installation is best covered using "Tutorials"/The existing
 installation documentation.
 so I'd remove the Installation category & forums and instead cover it
 in Tutorials and in a catchall/general questions section in
 libreoffice apps category. After all installing is not black magic...

  I partially disagree. One might argue for a specialty forum in general
>>> related to a specific operating system, but I don't think it need be
>>> specific to installation. I also don't think that installation questions
>>> should be handled in tutorials, it is certainly not the first place I
>>> would
>>> jump to if I could not install some software.
>>>
>>> One nice thing about a separate installation section, is that it will
>>> probably primarily attract the new users that have difficulty in this
>>> area.
>>> It will likely not see heavy use, which is probably good because it means
>>> that a new problem will be close to the top where a new person is most
>>> likely to see it and maybe have their question answered immediately.
>>>
>>>
>>>   ###
>>>
 In LibreOffice Applications, I wouldn't split them out as much, but
 rather shrink them to:
 * Writer & Math
 * Calc
 * Impress & Draw
 * Base
 * Catch-all/General (also the place to ask installation/configuration
 problems if not covered by the tutorials) - might even consider to put
 Base into this forum as well.

  I disagree with this as well, but I will admit that Draw and Impress
>>> share
>>> much in common. Math people may be working in Write, and I expect much
>>> more
>>> traffic in Write than in Math, but again, categorizing in this way is
>>> generally useful, even if there are only a few posts a month in this
>>> category. The real purpose is that the Math questions are generally very
>>> specific, and it makes it much easier later to browse what has been
>>> discussed in that area. If you can have math be a sub-category of Write,
>>> however, that might be a good thing.
>>>
>>> I certainly would not put Base into General, because the questions are so
>>> specific.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
 prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)

  New people in general are not likely to do this. If they are asked as
>>> part
>>> of the registration process, however, that might help in this regard.
>>>
>>>
>>>   ###
>>>
 The SiteFeedback & Website contributor forums seem to overlap

  I assume that site feedback is for a general user that wants to say
>>> something like "this forum is horrible because" (or similar). I assume
>>> that
>>> the later is for people actively developing the LO web site (ie, not the
>>> forum).
>>>
>>>
>>>   ###
>>>
 And I assume that the Admin-Category will be hidden for Anonymous &
 regular Users, right?

  :-)
>>>
>>> One can hope!
>>>
>>>
>>>   So I'd rather start with fewer forums, and if real-life usage proves
>>>
 me wrong, create the additional, specialized forums.

  It is certainly easier to add new categories than it is to remove them.
>>>
>>>
>>>   But especially
>>>
 Math and Draw don't get so many questions that are specifc. Base might
 deserve its own section because the nature of the questions is
 redically different, and most of the time require database knowledge,
 but probably not from a volume perspective. Then again, I don't
 read/monitor the english user's list, so it might be different from
 e.g. the german project.

 So in short:
 * re

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Cor Nouws 

Hi all,

Thanks for working on this!

Lucian Oprea wrote (27-09-12 15:29)


The idea to start with fewer boards is very good. In the future, if
needed you can create new categories and forums and move there specific
messages.


One could also think that a special category makes it more attractive to 
post /  search on that topic. E.g. configuration and api/macro's might 
be interesting ones. So that would be more likely to gather advanced 
users too.

Or do I underestimate the tools available & skills needed for searching ;-)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Joel Madero 
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Christian Lohmaier <
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joel, *,
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Joel Madero 
> wrote:
> > On 09/27/2012 05:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Marc Paré  wrote:
> > [...]
> Not sure wether I like the creation of an off-topic area right from the
> start...
>

I'm willing to discuss but ultimately my stance is I am in favor of
off-topic immediately. It helps give a sense of "just a place to come and
meet other FOSS people", also no reason to be strictly business right from
the start.

>
> > [...]
> >> For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
> >> prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)
> >
> > The reality is that most users don't read sticked stuff so asking for
> them
> > to do certain things in those notes might just be ignored.
>
> Well - it is a forum, there will be moderators, so topics can be
> adjusted if people don't follow the rules by themselves.
>

More work for limited moderators seems like a bad idea to me if it can be
easily solved by separating them. I'm not opposed to having one
installation section in theory, but I think the idea of having users put
brackets in is just not realistic and having moderators constantly having
to change subjects of point out this problem to users is also not
realistic.

>
> In another post Leif suggested a "bugs and errors" section.
> I'm strongly opposed to this. Bugzilla is the one and only way to file
> bug/error reports.
> Everything else is just creating a wrong impression, while in fact
> those reports will not be looked at.
>

Agreed. We had briefly discussed a bugs and errors section and ultimately
we decided this wasn't a good idea. If we notice someone posting a thread
that is a bug, we'll point them to the bug reporting section of our webpage
and let them file a bug.

Regards,
Joel
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Christian Lohmaier 
Hi Joel, *,

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Joel Madero  wrote:
> On 09/27/2012 05:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Marc Paré  wrote:
> [...]
Not sure wether I like the creation of an off-topic area right from the start...

> [...]
>> For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
>> prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)
>
> The reality is that most users don't read sticked stuff so asking for them
> to do certain things in those notes might just be ignored.

Well - it is a forum, there will be moderators, so topics can be
adjusted if people don't follow the rules by themselves.

In another post Leif suggested a "bugs and errors" section.
I'm strongly opposed to this. Bugzilla is the one and only way to file
bug/error reports.
Everything else is just creating a wrong impression, while in fact
those reports will not be looked at.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Joel Madero 

On 09/27/2012 05:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Marc Paré  wrote:

Please note that
the categories and forums shown on the page[2], at this point, are only
suggestions and may be modified (some may be removed or added) after we have
discussed this as a group.

OK, my 0,02€ :-)

Where's the difference between "General Discussion" & "Lounge" (or
whatever name will be chosen) - it is not clear to me.
General Discussion is to still be on topic, about LibO. A lounge is 
typically off topic just for users to get more familiar with each other. 
If you want an example check out linuxforums.org/forum and see their 
general vs coffee lounge. It's a good way for users to have a chance to 
communicate with each other, share random thoughts, etc... Going into 
the future we'll decide what's appropriate and what's not appropriate to 
talk about (to avoid certain issues). But that's the idea from my 
understanding, most forums have a place for users just to talk off topic.



###
I don't think there is a need for an installation & configuration
category, let alone individual forums for each OS.




Installation is best covered using "Tutorials"/The existing
installation documentation.
so I'd remove the Installation category & forums and instead cover it
in Tutorials and in a catchall/general questions section in
libreoffice apps category. After all installing is not black magic...
###
In LibreOffice Applications, I wouldn't split them out as much, but
rather shrink them to:
* Writer & Math
* Calc
* Impress & Draw
* Base
* Catch-all/General (also the place to ask installation/configuration
problems if not covered by the tutorials) - might even consider to put
Base into this forum as well.

For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)
The reality is that most users don't read sticked stuff so asking for 
them to do certain things in those notes might just be ignored. As for 
combining applications, I personally don't like the idea. I think that 
we all have our "specialties", I personally know nothing about Math but 
know quite a bit about Writer, me having to moderate a combined forum 
would be an issue. Furthermore, I think users might get angry if there 
are 100 posts a day about writer and 1 about math, that math one goes to 
page 3, while the trivial writer ones are on top on the forum.


Installation, I'm open to discussing combining into one though.


###
The SiteFeedback & Website contributor forums seem to overlap
###
And I assume that the Admin-Category will be hidden for Anonymous &
regular Users, right?

Yes


So I'd rather start with fewer forums, and if real-life usage proves
me wrong, create the additional, specialized forums. But especially
Math and Draw don't get so many questions that are specifc. Base might
deserve its own section because the nature of the questions is
redically different, and most of the time require database knowledge,
but probably not from a volume perspective. Then again, I don't
read/monitor the english user's list, so it might be different from
e.g. the german project.
I think people in general are comfortable with the components part of 
LibO. I personally don't see a need to ditch those.


Regards,
Joel

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Lucian Oprea 

Hi all,

The idea to start with fewer boards is very good. In the future, if 
needed you can create new categories and forums and move there specific 
messages.

Waiting for opinions and then modify the proposal.

Best regards,
Lucian

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Pe 27.09.2012 16:24, Jonathan Aquilina a scris:

As Christian suggested I think the main sections of the forum to start out
with are sections for writer, calc, etc. What do you guys think would those
be good things to initially start with?

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <
and...@pitonyak.org> wrote:


I do not totally agree Christian details inline...

That said, your summary was easier for me to read than the list...


On 09/27/2012 08:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:


Where's the difference between "General Discussion" & "Lounge" (or
whatever name will be chosen) - it is not clear to me.


I assume that it is an off "topic forum" where you can ask anything about
anything (well, mostly anyway). Just guessing.


  ###

I don't think there is a need for an installation & configuration
category, let alone individual forums for each OS.

Installation is best covered using "Tutorials"/The existing
installation documentation.
so I'd remove the Installation category & forums and instead cover it
in Tutorials and in a catchall/general questions section in
libreoffice apps category. After all installing is not black magic...


I partially disagree. One might argue for a specialty forum in general
related to a specific operating system, but I don't think it need be
specific to installation. I also don't think that installation questions
should be handled in tutorials, it is certainly not the first place I would
jump to if I could not install some software.

One nice thing about a separate installation section, is that it will
probably primarily attract the new users that have difficulty in this area.
It will likely not see heavy use, which is probably good because it means
that a new problem will be close to the top where a new person is most
likely to see it and maybe have their question answered immediately.


  ###

In LibreOffice Applications, I wouldn't split them out as much, but
rather shrink them to:
* Writer & Math
* Calc
* Impress & Draw
* Base
* Catch-all/General (also the place to ask installation/configuration
problems if not covered by the tutorials) - might even consider to put
Base into this forum as well.


I disagree with this as well, but I will admit that Draw and Impress share
much in common. Math people may be working in Write, and I expect much more
traffic in Write than in Math, but again, categorizing in this way is
generally useful, even if there are only a few posts a month in this
category. The real purpose is that the Math questions are generally very
specific, and it makes it much easier later to browse what has been
discussed in that area. If you can have math be a sub-category of Write,
however, that might be a good thing.

I certainly would not put Base into General, because the questions are so
specific.




For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)


New people in general are not likely to do this. If they are asked as part
of the registration process, however, that might help in this regard.


  ###

The SiteFeedback & Website contributor forums seem to overlap


I assume that site feedback is for a general user that wants to say
something like "this forum is horrible because" (or similar). I assume that
the later is for people actively developing the LO web site (ie, not the
forum).


  ###

And I assume that the Admin-Category will be hidden for Anonymous &
regular Users, right?


:-)

One can hope!


  So I'd rather start with fewer forums, and if real-life usage proves

me wrong, create the additional, specialized forums.


It is certainly easier to add new categories than it is to remove them.


  But especially

Math and Draw don't get so many questions that are specifc. Base might
deserve its own section because the nature of the questions is
redically different, and most of the time require database knowledge,
but probably not from a volume perspective. Then again, I don't
read/monitor the english user's list, so it might be different from
e.g. the german project.

So in short:
* remove Installation Category (cover it in tutorial and app-questions)
* combine Apps forums (and create a general forum for non-app specific
question like for installation)
* explain difference between "General Discussion" and "Lounge"
* check overlap betwen "Site Feedback" and "Website"

ciao
Christian



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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Jonathan Aquilina 
As Christian suggested I think the main sections of the forum to start out
with are sections for writer, calc, etc. What do you guys think would those
be good things to initially start with?

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <
and...@pitonyak.org> wrote:

>
> I do not totally agree Christian details inline...
>
> That said, your summary was easier for me to read than the list...
>
>
> On 09/27/2012 08:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
>> Where's the difference between "General Discussion" & "Lounge" (or
>> whatever name will be chosen) - it is not clear to me.
>>
>
> I assume that it is an off "topic forum" where you can ask anything about
> anything (well, mostly anyway). Just guessing.
>
>
>  ###
>> I don't think there is a need for an installation & configuration
>> category, let alone individual forums for each OS.
>>
>> Installation is best covered using "Tutorials"/The existing
>> installation documentation.
>> so I'd remove the Installation category & forums and instead cover it
>> in Tutorials and in a catchall/general questions section in
>> libreoffice apps category. After all installing is not black magic...
>>
>
> I partially disagree. One might argue for a specialty forum in general
> related to a specific operating system, but I don't think it need be
> specific to installation. I also don't think that installation questions
> should be handled in tutorials, it is certainly not the first place I would
> jump to if I could not install some software.
>
> One nice thing about a separate installation section, is that it will
> probably primarily attract the new users that have difficulty in this area.
> It will likely not see heavy use, which is probably good because it means
> that a new problem will be close to the top where a new person is most
> likely to see it and maybe have their question answered immediately.
>
>
>  ###
>> In LibreOffice Applications, I wouldn't split them out as much, but
>> rather shrink them to:
>> * Writer & Math
>> * Calc
>> * Impress & Draw
>> * Base
>> * Catch-all/General (also the place to ask installation/configuration
>> problems if not covered by the tutorials) - might even consider to put
>> Base into this forum as well.
>>
>
> I disagree with this as well, but I will admit that Draw and Impress share
> much in common. Math people may be working in Write, and I expect much more
> traffic in Write than in Math, but again, categorizing in this way is
> generally useful, even if there are only a few posts a month in this
> category. The real purpose is that the Math questions are generally very
> specific, and it makes it much easier later to browse what has been
> discussed in that area. If you can have math be a sub-category of Write,
> however, that might be a good thing.
>
> I certainly would not put Base into General, because the questions are so
> specific.
>
>
>
>> For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
>> prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)
>>
>
> New people in general are not likely to do this. If they are asked as part
> of the registration process, however, that might help in this regard.
>
>
>  ###
>> The SiteFeedback & Website contributor forums seem to overlap
>>
>
> I assume that site feedback is for a general user that wants to say
> something like "this forum is horrible because" (or similar). I assume that
> the later is for people actively developing the LO web site (ie, not the
> forum).
>
>
>  ###
>> And I assume that the Admin-Category will be hidden for Anonymous &
>> regular Users, right?
>>
>
> :-)
>
> One can hope!
>
>
>  So I'd rather start with fewer forums, and if real-life usage proves
>> me wrong, create the additional, specialized forums.
>>
>
> It is certainly easier to add new categories than it is to remove them.
>
>
>  But especially
>> Math and Draw don't get so many questions that are specifc. Base might
>> deserve its own section because the nature of the questions is
>> redically different, and most of the time require database knowledge,
>> but probably not from a volume perspective. Then again, I don't
>> read/monitor the english user's list, so it might be different from
>> e.g. the german project.
>>
>> So in short:
>> * remove Installation Category (cover it in tutorial and app-questions)
>> * combine Apps forums (and create a general forum for non-app specific
>> question like for installation)
>> * explain difference between "General Discussion" and "Lounge"
>> * check overlap betwen "Site Feedback" and "Website"
>>
>> ciao
>> Christian
>>
>>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak 


I do not totally agree Christian details inline...

That said, your summary was easier for me to read than the list...

On 09/27/2012 08:11 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Where's the difference between "General Discussion" & "Lounge" (or
whatever name will be chosen) - it is not clear to me.


I assume that it is an off "topic forum" where you can ask anything 
about anything (well, mostly anyway). Just guessing.



###
I don't think there is a need for an installation & configuration
category, let alone individual forums for each OS.

Installation is best covered using "Tutorials"/The existing
installation documentation.
so I'd remove the Installation category & forums and instead cover it
in Tutorials and in a catchall/general questions section in
libreoffice apps category. After all installing is not black magic...


I partially disagree. One might argue for a specialty forum in general 
related to a specific operating system, but I don't think it need be 
specific to installation. I also don't think that installation questions 
should be handled in tutorials, it is certainly not the first place I 
would jump to if I could not install some software.


One nice thing about a separate installation section, is that it will 
probably primarily attract the new users that have difficulty in this 
area. It will likely not see heavy use, which is probably good because 
it means that a new problem will be close to the top where a new person 
is most likely to see it and maybe have their question answered immediately.



###
In LibreOffice Applications, I wouldn't split them out as much, but
rather shrink them to:
* Writer & Math
* Calc
* Impress & Draw
* Base
* Catch-all/General (also the place to ask installation/configuration
problems if not covered by the tutorials) - might even consider to put
Base into this forum as well.


I disagree with this as well, but I will admit that Draw and Impress 
share much in common. Math people may be working in Write, and I expect 
much more traffic in Write than in Math, but again, categorizing in this 
way is generally useful, even if there are only a few posts a month in 
this category. The real purpose is that the Math questions are generally 
very specific, and it makes it much easier later to browse what has been 
discussed in that area. If you can have math be a sub-category of Write, 
however, that might be a good thing.


I certainly would not put Base into General, because the questions are 
so specific.




For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)


New people in general are not likely to do this. If they are asked as 
part of the registration process, however, that might help in this regard.



###
The SiteFeedback & Website contributor forums seem to overlap


I assume that site feedback is for a general user that wants to say 
something like "this forum is horrible because" (or similar). I assume 
that the later is for people actively developing the LO web site (ie, 
not the forum).



###
And I assume that the Admin-Category will be hidden for Anonymous &
regular Users, right?


:-)

One can hope!


So I'd rather start with fewer forums, and if real-life usage proves
me wrong, create the additional, specialized forums.


It is certainly easier to add new categories than it is to remove them.


But especially
Math and Draw don't get so many questions that are specifc. Base might
deserve its own section because the nature of the questions is
redically different, and most of the time require database knowledge,
but probably not from a volume perspective. Then again, I don't
read/monitor the english user's list, so it might be different from
e.g. the german project.

So in short:
* remove Installation Category (cover it in tutorial and app-questions)
* combine Apps forums (and create a general forum for non-app specific
question like for installation)
* explain difference between "General Discussion" and "Lounge"
* check overlap betwen "Site Feedback" and "Website"

ciao
Christian



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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Leif Lodahl 
Hi,
Great work.

Little bit out of topic, but I think its important that we think
ask.libreoffice.org into it. I think automatic search (questions) and easy
linking (answers).

I would also suggest a visible category called "bugs and errors" where
moderators can move/copy treads to. When users submit questions it /might/
actually be a but. By moving or copying the thread to a separate category,
we can all help qualify the bug through the forum.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

2012/9/27 Marc Paré 

> The LibreOffice Forums co-cordinators[1] have been hard at work behind the
> scenes readying a forums solution for the LibreOffice project. We have
> gotten to the point where we need to decide on the categories/forums, and,
> have drawn up a proposal for you to examine and to discuss. Please note
> that the categories and forums shown on the page[2], at this point, are
> only suggestions and may be modified (some may be removed or added) after
> we have discussed this as a group.
>
> As LibreOffice Forums is a communications tool that affects all areas of
> the project, we would like to have the main discussion and decisions of the
> categories/forums done on the discussion list. If this proposal includes a
> list where you actively participate, please have a discussion there and
> report back to the discussion list of the outcome of your discussions. You
> may find more details on the Forum Planning wiki page[1].
>
> The plan for the LibreOffice Forums is that the global EN forums will make
> its appearance first (date is still undetermined), and, the native language
> forums will follow soon after. We will be making arrangements for
> moderators following the agreement on the proposal.
>
> The LibreOffice Forums co-cordinators: Jonathan Aquilina, Lucian Oprea,
> Joel Madero, Marc Paré, Jean Spiteri
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Forums Categories Proposal

2012-09-27 Thread Christian Lohmaier 
Hi *,

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Marc Paré  wrote:
> Please note that
> the categories and forums shown on the page[2], at this point, are only
> suggestions and may be modified (some may be removed or added) after we have
> discussed this as a group.

OK, my 0,02€ :-)

Where's the difference between "General Discussion" & "Lounge" (or
whatever name will be chosen) - it is not clear to me.
###
I don't think there is a need for an installation & configuration
category, let alone individual forums for each OS.

Installation is best covered using "Tutorials"/The existing
installation documentation.
so I'd remove the Installation category & forums and instead cover it
in Tutorials and in a catchall/general questions section in
libreoffice apps category. After all installing is not black magic...
###
In LibreOffice Applications, I wouldn't split them out as much, but
rather shrink them to:
* Writer & Math
* Calc
* Impress & Draw
* Base
* Catch-all/General (also the place to ask installation/configuration
problems if not covered by the tutorials) - might even consider to put
Base into this forum as well.

For installation related questions, people can be asked in a sticky to
prefix their topics with [win] [lin] [mac] (, [sol], [and] [ios],...)
###
The SiteFeedback & Website contributor forums seem to overlap
###
And I assume that the Admin-Category will be hidden for Anonymous &
regular Users, right?

So I'd rather start with fewer forums, and if real-life usage proves
me wrong, create the additional, specialized forums. But especially
Math and Draw don't get so many questions that are specifc. Base might
deserve its own section because the nature of the questions is
redically different, and most of the time require database knowledge,
but probably not from a volume perspective. Then again, I don't
read/monitor the english user's list, so it might be different from
e.g. the german project.

So in short:
* remove Installation Category (cover it in tutorial and app-questions)
* combine Apps forums (and create a general forum for non-app specific
question like for installation)
* explain difference between "General Discussion" and "Lounge"
* check overlap betwen "Site Feedback" and "Website"

ciao
Christian

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