Re: [tdf-discuss] creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system

2013-02-18 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 02/18/2013 04:08 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-02-18 2:00 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 wrote:

I just found out that LibreOffice does not use the font color that the
FF Persona designs call for.  So if the menu color is white in Firefox,
LO will still use the black menu color.  That really messes up people
who want a dark color background that works well with FF.


So you reported the bug? Bug#?

;)



No I have not.  I am still dealing with a few things on my end that is 
more time-sensitive than trying to figure out what is neededfor a bug 
report.


If you want to know briefly. . .

Persona/Theme designs include font color specifications where the 
designer selects the right menu font color for the background.


ALSO, it appears that some of the toobars have icons that have 
transparencyissues, where the icon does not show "properly" if the 
background is not WHITE. So that is another issue.


Then there is the fact the the persona/theme includes a footer image, 
but it appears that LO either does not use thatfooter or does not do it 
properly.


There may be more there as well, but I just installed LO 4.0 onthe 
desktop I do the design work at and just got some various persona/themes 
submitted/approved that have different background colors and text colors.


Try this theme design. . .
http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/494461
It works well if you have the white menu text that will show up in 
Firefox.  But the text is black with Ubuntu's 64-bit or Win7 64-bit 
versions of LO4.0.0.3.


So I am still finding things that could be bugs or something. Maybe the 
developers had not even thought about changing the menu text color.


Then there is the in-ability for testing the theme in LO like FF allows 
you to do. That is either a good idea or bad one. You can choose either 
way and be right.




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Re: [tdf-discuss] creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system

2013-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-18 2:00 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 wrote:

I just found out that LibreOffice does not use the font color that the
FF Persona designs call for.  So if the menu color is white in Firefox,
LO will still use the black menu color.  That really messes up people
who want a dark color background that works well with FF.


So you reported the bug? Bug#?

;)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system

2013-02-18 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 02/18/2013 01:04 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

Hi Tim,

Le 2013-02-14 15:11, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :
>
>
> Since LO 4.0.x uses the Persona design specifications that were defined
> by Firefox's Persona extension/theme system, and currently users of LO
> 4.0.x goes to Firefox's gallery to choose Persona designs, I was
> wondering if LO should not have its own design gallery page?
>
> We have users creating LO themed Persona designs. They submit them to
> the FF gallery posting system. Why not have a gallery of Persona 
designs

> that were specifically designed as themes for LibreOffice? We have a
> Extension Center and a Template Center. These are for "displaying" the
> extensions and templates users have developed and submitted to LO to
> allow other users to have access to them. Why not have a place like 
that

> where users can submit Persona design themes that were created
> specifically for LibreOffice? Firefox Gallery was designed for Persona
> and theme designs that were created to their package. We use that
> Persona specification, but LibreOffice header menu is different from
> what is displayed for Firefox's header menu. What might look good for
> Firefox might not look good for LibreOffice, and vice-a-versa.
>
> So, would it be a good idea to have a design gallery of Persona designs
> specifically created to look well with LibreOffice's header/footer menu
> design?
>
> Could we make it like the submission process for adding a extension to
> its center? Of course there will have to be some overseer for that
> submission process.
>
> What I would do is develop the design and test it out on LO. Then 
take a

> screen shot of the design and what it looks like with with the menu
> options displayed with the design "in the background". Take that
> screen-shot for both the header and footer designs and make them one
> full window width image. Submit that image file [separate file] with 
the

> Persona design file[s] in an archive format of [say] .zip. There could
> be a "smaller" image submitted that would be displayed on the "gallery"
> showing what the design looks like with LibreOffice.
>
> It would be nice to have a gallery of designs specifically created for
> LibreOffice and not having to see if a Persona designed for Firefox
> works well with LibreOffice.
>
> What do you think?
> Yes? No?
>
>

Would this work on the extensions website? Maybe Andrea Mantke could 
add his comments?


Perhaps as part of the process, you could write up a "how-to create a 
persona "theme" specifically for LibreOffice" on our wiki pages? This 
would really help. You could write it up on the marketing wiki section 
and we could link to it on the marketing section. We could also 
temporarily host the new LibreOffice personas on the wiki temporarily 
until a solution for a repository could be found. I don't think we are 
talking about thousands of specific LibreOffice personas, but this 
could be a temporary fix?


IMO, most users would expect to see these on the extensions site and 
it would be a great draw (attraction) to get people into the 
extensions site.


As you and I have found, the LibreOffice personas are a little 
different than those of FF, in that LibreOffice allows more space on 
the right hand side of the persona. The menu bars are also much more 
busier than FF. So this is both a bonus for writing in the 
"LibreOffice" label on the right-hand side but a little harder to deal 
with the busy menus.


How does this sound to you?

Cheers,

Marc




I just found out that LibreOffice does not use the font color that the 
FF Persona designs call for.  So if the menu color is white in Firefox, 
LO will still use the black menu color.  That really messes up people 
who want a dark color background that works well with FF.


I will think about the wiki page information.

I just wish there was a method of editing the theme using LO instead of 
using FF.  Also, there is not "previously used theme/persona" list like 
there is for FF.






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Re: [tdf-discuss] creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system

2013-02-18 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Tim,

Le 2013-02-14 15:11, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :
>
>
> Since LO 4.0.x uses the Persona design specifications that were defined
> by Firefox's Persona extension/theme system, and currently users of LO
> 4.0.x goes to Firefox's gallery to choose Persona designs, I was
> wondering if LO should not have its own design gallery page?
>
> We have users creating LO themed Persona designs. They submit them to
> the FF gallery posting system. Why not have a gallery of Persona designs
> that were specifically designed as themes for LibreOffice? We have a
> Extension Center and a Template Center. These are for "displaying" the
> extensions and templates users have developed and submitted to LO to
> allow other users to have access to them. Why not have a place like that
> where users can submit Persona design themes that were created
> specifically for LibreOffice? Firefox Gallery was designed for Persona
> and theme designs that were created to their package. We use that
> Persona specification, but LibreOffice header menu is different from
> what is displayed for Firefox's header menu. What might look good for
> Firefox might not look good for LibreOffice, and vice-a-versa.
>
> So, would it be a good idea to have a design gallery of Persona designs
> specifically created to look well with LibreOffice's header/footer menu
> design?
>
> Could we make it like the submission process for adding a extension to
> its center? Of course there will have to be some overseer for that
> submission process.
>
> What I would do is develop the design and test it out on LO. Then take a
> screen shot of the design and what it looks like with with the menu
> options displayed with the design "in the background". Take that
> screen-shot for both the header and footer designs and make them one
> full window width image. Submit that image file [separate file] with the
> Persona design file[s] in an archive format of [say] .zip. There could
> be a "smaller" image submitted that would be displayed on the "gallery"
> showing what the design looks like with LibreOffice.
>
> It would be nice to have a gallery of designs specifically created for
> LibreOffice and not having to see if a Persona designed for Firefox
> works well with LibreOffice.
>
> What do you think?
> Yes? No?
>
>

Would this work on the extensions website? Maybe Andrea Mantke could add 
his comments?


Perhaps as part of the process, you could write up a "how-to create a 
persona "theme" specifically for LibreOffice" on our wiki pages? This 
would really help. You could write it up on the marketing wiki section 
and we could link to it on the marketing section. We could also 
temporarily host the new LibreOffice personas on the wiki temporarily 
until a solution for a repository could be found. I don't think we are 
talking about thousands of specific LibreOffice personas, but this could 
be a temporary fix?


IMO, most users would expect to see these on the extensions site and it 
would be a great draw (attraction) to get people into the extensions site.


As you and I have found, the LibreOffice personas are a little different 
than those of FF, in that LibreOffice allows more space on the right 
hand side of the persona. The menu bars are also much more busier than 
FF. So this is both a bonus for writing in the "LibreOffice" label on 
the right-hand side but a little harder to deal with the busy menus.


How does this sound to you?

Cheers,

Marc


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