Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
...forgot to add... >> Portable windows version is still maintained by John Haller from >> portableapps - he made 6.2.2 available to TDF last week and it has >> since been added to the download pages. > > Well - if to compare dates of portable and installable versions then > we see huge delay and some stable versions will not even be released > as portable. There is yet another issue - the https://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/ website update is also delayed and there should be checked directly the download folder instead of website in order to get information of latest version - most people do not know that and for them there is still no new version. Would also bring out that portable MS Windows version is an easy and quick way to introduce/use LibreOffice without installing it and we even do not have enough permissions for that. --- Thank you, Edmund -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hi Edmund, *, On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:36 AM Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > Sounds like MS Windows version of LibreOffice Portable is not maintained > (or very slowly...)? […] Portable windows version is still maintained by John Haller from portableapps - he made 6.2.2 available to TDF last week and it has since been added to the download pages. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello Andreas, Andreas Mantke @ 2019-04-06 12:36 CEST: > Hello, > > Am 25.03.19 um 16:28 schrieb Andreas Mantke: >> Hello, >> >> Am 25.03.19 um 14:48 schrieb Italo Vignoli: >>> When in the past it was suggested by several people to get in touch with >>> them to explore a closer collaboration, this was always refused because >>> it would have "offended" John Haller (and they were linked only by the >>> Italian community). >>> >>> So, I do not see why they should link to our infrastructure when they >>> have been ignored (if not considered as second class citizens because of >>> their geographical origins). In fact, they are doing a better job than >> to sum up and make it short and clear: >> >> a) the accusation goes into the direction of TDF's board of directors in >> this case; >> >> b) it incorporates the accusation of a discrimination because of >> someones geological origin (national origin). >> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination) >> >> It's surprising to read such text and belief from the main contact >> person of TDF and staff member for marketing and PR. > > seemed the current board has no issue with this statement and > accusation, because there is no reply from any of its members yet. > > If the board accepts the statement, that could have some impact on the > status of the foundation. I had not followed this thread actively since its beginning, as I don't have the use for a portable version of LibreOffice and never really had one in the past. I will say however that you seem to be asking the questions and making the answers yourself. Your a) does not make sense. Italo is alluding to issues I myself heard many years ago concerning the different portable LibreOffice projects, one of them who seemed to have a problem with TDF. I'm not sure what this meant or what this means today. But it does not go into the direction of TDF's board, it's a thread on @discuss. As to your point b): are you even serious? So there's no accusation coming from anyone but you in this case. I note your last statement however, and I'm a bit concerned about what you meant: how does this discussion have an impact on the status of the foundation? Why do you want to involve the board on such matter? What's your turf? -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello, Am 25.03.19 um 16:28 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > Hello, > > Am 25.03.19 um 14:48 schrieb Italo Vignoli: >> When in the past it was suggested by several people to get in touch with >> them to explore a closer collaboration, this was always refused because >> it would have "offended" John Haller (and they were linked only by the >> Italian community). >> >> So, I do not see why they should link to our infrastructure when they >> have been ignored (if not considered as second class citizens because of >> their geographical origins). In fact, they are doing a better job than > to sum up and make it short and clear: > > a) the accusation goes into the direction of TDF's board of directors in > this case; > > b) it incorporates the accusation of a discrimination because of > someones geological origin (national origin). > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination) > > It's surprising to read such text and belief from the main contact > person of TDF and staff member for marketing and PR. seemed the current board has no issue with this statement and accusation, because there is no reply from any of its members yet. If the board accepts the statement, that could have some impact on the status of the foundation. Kind regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello, Am 25.03.19 um 14:48 schrieb Italo Vignoli: > When in the past it was suggested by several people to get in touch with > them to explore a closer collaboration, this was always refused because > it would have "offended" John Haller (and they were linked only by the > Italian community). > > So, I do not see why they should link to our infrastructure when they > have been ignored (if not considered as second class citizens because of > their geographical origins). In fact, they are doing a better job than to sum up and make it short and clear: a) the accusation goes into the direction of TDF's board of directors in this case; b) it incorporates the accusation of a discrimination because of someones geological origin (national origin). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination) It's surprising to read such text and belief from the main contact person of TDF and staff member for marketing and PR. Regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
When in the past it was suggested by several people to get in touch with them to explore a closer collaboration, this was always refused because it would have "offended" John Haller (and they were linked only by the Italian community). So, I do not see why they should link to our infrastructure when they have been ignored (if not considered as second class citizens because of their geographical origins). In fact, they are doing a better job than John Haller, who is clearly not able of keeping up with our release schedule, and they do this without our help. I think that people can judge by themselves who is doing a better job of supporting LibreOffice with the regular availability of the last version of the software, and download what is more useful for their needs. On 25/03/2019 14:30, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Hello, > > I had a further and closer look onto the portableapps website and had to > amend: both download links go to the TDF infrastructure. > > And the webpage contains a prominent link to the TDF donation page. > > I don't see something similar on the winpenpack website. > > Regards, > Andreas > > Am 25.03.19 um 12:11 schrieb Andreas Mantke: >> Hello, >> >> instead of the winpenpack project the portableapps project has links to >> the TDF infrastructure. They have a download link to: >> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/ >> >> I think the downloads from that URL will be counted in the TDF stats. I >> don't know, if TDF got also the stats from the other download URL of >> portableapps. Maybe the TDF admin team could ask John T. Haller about >> such stats, if they are not already in TDF's hands. >> >> And for the question about current versions: it needs always voluteers >> that do the work and get some positive feedback and support in return. >> >> Kind regards, >> Andreas >> >> Am 25.03.19 um 11:21 schrieb Italo Vignoli: >>> On 25/03/2019 07:08, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >>> What can we do to improve this situation? >>> There is an alternative developed in Italy: >>> >>> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/index.php >>> >>> They provide both LibreOffice 6.2.1: >>> >>> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1384 >>> >>> And LibreOffice 6.1.5: >>> >>> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354 >>> >>> They usually release just a few days after TDF. >>> >>> They have many positive reviews. >>> >> > > -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email [email protected] mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber [email protected] The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello, I had a further and closer look onto the portableapps website and had to amend: both download links go to the TDF infrastructure. And the webpage contains a prominent link to the TDF donation page. I don't see something similar on the winpenpack website. Regards, Andreas Am 25.03.19 um 12:11 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > Hello, > > instead of the winpenpack project the portableapps project has links to > the TDF infrastructure. They have a download link to: > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/ > > I think the downloads from that URL will be counted in the TDF stats. I > don't know, if TDF got also the stats from the other download URL of > portableapps. Maybe the TDF admin team could ask John T. Haller about > such stats, if they are not already in TDF's hands. > > And for the question about current versions: it needs always voluteers > that do the work and get some positive feedback and support in return. > > Kind regards, > Andreas > > Am 25.03.19 um 11:21 schrieb Italo Vignoli: >> On 25/03/2019 07:08, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >> >>> What can we do to improve this situation? >> There is an alternative developed in Italy: >> >> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/index.php >> >> They provide both LibreOffice 6.2.1: >> >> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1384 >> >> And LibreOffice 6.1.5: >> >> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354 >> >> They usually release just a few days after TDF. >> >> They have many positive reviews. >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello, Am 25.03.19 um 13:44 schrieb Andreas Mantke: > Hello, > > and if you look for the source code of their portable LibreOffice > version (6.2.1), you are directed to > https://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/program_sources/. > And the latest source code published there is: 5.3.3. And nothing about > LibreOffice 5.4, 6.0, 6.1 and 6.2. > > And if you download the release file in an obscure zip-file-format, you > are not able with the usual tools to extract it and look into it. Seemed this is caused by an issue with the download. The 6.1.4 release could be opened with the usual tools. Kind regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello, and if you look for the source code of their portable LibreOffice version (6.2.1), you are directed to https://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/program_sources/. And the latest source code published there is: 5.3.3. And nothing about LibreOffice 5.4, 6.0, 6.1 and 6.2. And if you download the release file in an obscure zip-file-format, you are not able with the usual tools to extract it and look into it. Maybe there is an issue with the license regulations. Regards, Andreas Am 25.03.19 um 12:47 schrieb Italo Vignoli: > WinPenPack is open source, and - according to many users - is better > than Portable Apps. It is also maintained by volunteers, who seem to be > more active and more caring about LibreOffice than John Haller as they > have not missed a single release since we launched in 2011. I do not > think that it would be a problem to host it on LibreOffice servers to be > included in the stats. I would be happy to get in touch with them, and I > suppose they would be happy to be considered by TDF (something which has > not happened in the past). > > On 25/03/2019 12:11, Andreas Mantke wrote: >> Hello, >> >> instead of the winpenpack project the portableapps project has links to >> the TDF infrastructure. They have a download link to: >> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/ >> >> I think the downloads from that URL will be counted in the TDF stats. I >> don't know, if TDF got also the stats from the other download URL of >> portableapps. Maybe the TDF admin team could ask John T. Haller about >> such stats, if they are not already in TDF's hands. >> >> And for the question about current versions: it needs always voluteers >> that do the work and get some positive feedback and support in return. >> >> Kind regards, >> Andreas >> >> Am 25.03.19 um 11:21 schrieb Italo Vignoli: >>> On 25/03/2019 07:08, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >>> What can we do to improve this situation? >>> There is an alternative developed in Italy: >>> >>> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/index.php >>> >>> They provide both LibreOffice 6.2.1: >>> >>> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1384 >>> >>> And LibreOffice 6.1.5: >>> >>> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354 >>> >>> They usually release just a few days after TDF. >>> >>> They have many positive reviews. >>> >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
WinPenPack is open source, and - according to many users - is better than Portable Apps. It is also maintained by volunteers, who seem to be more active and more caring about LibreOffice than John Haller as they have not missed a single release since we launched in 2011. I do not think that it would be a problem to host it on LibreOffice servers to be included in the stats. I would be happy to get in touch with them, and I suppose they would be happy to be considered by TDF (something which has not happened in the past). On 25/03/2019 12:11, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Hello, > > instead of the winpenpack project the portableapps project has links to > the TDF infrastructure. They have a download link to: > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/ > > I think the downloads from that URL will be counted in the TDF stats. I > don't know, if TDF got also the stats from the other download URL of > portableapps. Maybe the TDF admin team could ask John T. Haller about > such stats, if they are not already in TDF's hands. > > And for the question about current versions: it needs always voluteers > that do the work and get some positive feedback and support in return. > > Kind regards, > Andreas > > Am 25.03.19 um 11:21 schrieb Italo Vignoli: >> On 25/03/2019 07:08, Edmund Laugasson wrote: >> >>> What can we do to improve this situation? >> There is an alternative developed in Italy: >> >> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/index.php >> >> They provide both LibreOffice 6.2.1: >> >> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1384 >> >> And LibreOffice 6.1.5: >> >> http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354 >> >> They usually release just a few days after TDF. >> >> They have many positive reviews. >> > > -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email [email protected] mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber [email protected] The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello, instead of the winpenpack project the portableapps project has links to the TDF infrastructure. They have a download link to: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/ I think the downloads from that URL will be counted in the TDF stats. I don't know, if TDF got also the stats from the other download URL of portableapps. Maybe the TDF admin team could ask John T. Haller about such stats, if they are not already in TDF's hands. And for the question about current versions: it needs always voluteers that do the work and get some positive feedback and support in return. Kind regards, Andreas Am 25.03.19 um 11:21 schrieb Italo Vignoli: > On 25/03/2019 07:08, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > >> What can we do to improve this situation? > There is an alternative developed in Italy: > > http://www.winpenpack.com/en/index.php > > They provide both LibreOffice 6.2.1: > > http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1384 > > And LibreOffice 6.1.5: > > http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354 > > They usually release just a few days after TDF. > > They have many positive reviews. > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
On 25/03/2019 07:08, Edmund Laugasson wrote: > What can we do to improve this situation? There is an alternative developed in Italy: http://www.winpenpack.com/en/index.php They provide both LibreOffice 6.2.1: http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1384 And LibreOffice 6.1.5: http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354 They usually release just a few days after TDF. They have many positive reviews. -- Italo Vignoli - Marketing & PR email [email protected] mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli hangout/jabber [email protected] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Dear all, Sounds like MS Windows version of LibreOffice Portable is not maintained (or very slowly...)? Currently seems to be 6.1.4 but 6.1.5 is almost 2 months out from 6.1 series and from 6.2 series already second 6.2.2 is out. In case of Linux AppImage at least during couple of days after original release comes out next version but not for MS Windows. It's sad as many of users do not have installation permission under MS Windows (e.g. computers in companies, lecturers in visiting organizations) and would like to use the portable version. As we know - the MS Windows is widely used - so spreading LibreOffice would mean especially spreading it under MS Windows and especially in the situation where there is no administrative rights to install software. What can we do to improve this situation? --- Kind Regards, Edmund 15.11.18 22:28 Edmund Laugasson: > Great, what about 6.1.3? Linux version of portable (AppImage) is > already out. > --- > Edmund > > 18.10.18 16:32 Christian Lohmaier: >> Hi *, >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:02 AM Florian Effenberger >> wrote: >>> Edmund Laugasson wrote on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 >>> 18:12:02 +0300: >>> […] >>> thanks for pointing out! John from PortableApps has created 6.1.2 and it >>> will be available on our mirrors soon. :-) >> And now is :-) >> Skipping 6.1.1 should have been a one-time thing, I think you can >> assume to have portable versions for all versions - not having one is >> exception. >> >> ciao >> Christian >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Great, what about 6.1.3? Linux version of portable (AppImage) is already out. --- Edmund 18.10.18 16:32 Christian Lohmaier: > Hi *, > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:02 AM Florian Effenberger > wrote: >> Edmund Laugasson wrote on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 >> 18:12:02 +0300: >> […] >> thanks for pointing out! John from PortableApps has created 6.1.2 and it >> will be available on our mirrors soon. :-) > And now is :-) > Skipping 6.1.1 should have been a one-time thing, I think you can > assume to have portable versions for all versions - not having one is > exception. > > ciao > Christian > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hi *, On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:02 AM Florian Effenberger wrote: > Edmund Laugasson wrote on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 > 18:12:02 +0300: > […] > thanks for pointing out! John from PortableApps has created 6.1.2 and it > will be available on our mirrors soon. :-) And now is :-) Skipping 6.1.1 should have been a one-time thing, I think you can assume to have portable versions for all versions - not having one is exception. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [tdf-discuss] outdated LibreOffice Portable (MS Windows)
Hello, Edmund Laugasson wrote on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:12:02 +0300: Would like to mention that by going to https://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/ there is still v6.1.0 but already second version 6.1.2 is out. Does anyone have an information - will be there newer versions for portable MS Windows version? At the same time I would like to say big thanks of allowing us to use up-to-date AppImage version in Linux. thanks for pointing out! John from PortableApps has created 6.1.2 and it will be available on our mirrors soon. :-) Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
