RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity

2007-08-30 Thread Gavin Fleming
On Jo's last point re funding travel expenses, this would be a huge benefit for getting deserving delegates who don't have the means to Cape Town next year and other conferences in future. Perhaps a merit- and means- based application process could be applied. Gavin -Original Message-

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity

2007-08-30 Thread Jason Birch
I think that it's a mistake to be thinking about how to spend OSGeo's funds until we have a business model that ensures sufficient income to cover our expenses. We're still bootstrapping, but we're almost two years in and are still heavily reliant on Autodesk's continued involvement. I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity

2007-08-30 Thread Paul Ramsey
It depends a great deal on whether OSGeo wants to be self-sustaining at the $1000 level or the $10 level. At the $1000 level we shut everything down and put a paypal button on the front page, mission accomplished. At the $10 level, job one is to direct the money at places where

[OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity vs leech of resources

2007-08-30 Thread Jody Garnett
Thanks for the insight; Right now the pitch is: We are taking part in OSGeo in order to meet with the rest of the community I am not looking for much return out of OSGeo until the projects I am involved in finish incubation (am I alone in this?). So far I feel bad that we are taking up

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity

2007-08-30 Thread Landon Blake
I am involved in another organization that illustrates why I participate in the OSGeo. I thought sharing that might add something to the return on equity conversation. On a regular basis I meet with 20 to 30 other surveyors that are members of the local California Land Surveyors Association

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity

2007-08-30 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Landon Blake wrote: Promotion and support of open source software is an important part of what we do at the OSGeo. But if you really want to make OSGeo an organization that matters to the general public you have to see it as an organization that promotes the use of open source GIS to solve the

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity

2007-08-30 Thread Landon Blake
Frank wrote: I'm not worried so much about OSGeo as an organization that matters to the general public. I'd be pleased to see it matter to developers and users of open source geospatial software (and helping to grow that pool). Perhaps it is best to start with modest goals and the goal you