Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

2009-10-04 Thread Micha Silver
Charlie Schweik wrote: . This connects back to my earlier education post that Frank Warmerdam responded to. He asked: I would have thought it would be more productive to take existing curriculum guidelines and get project support in rebuilding them around foss projects/products.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

2009-10-04 Thread Charlie Schweik
Ian Turton wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Charlie Schweik cschw...@pubpol.umass.edu wrote: I'm also wondering if we could get some funding somewhere to hold an invited workshop (that pays for people to attend) to really dig into this. http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/gpg/nsf04_23/2.jsp#IID7

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

2009-10-04 Thread Eric Wolf
As Ian said, the Universities are stuck in a vicious circle. Believe it or not, faculty do try to teach a GIScience that is independent of any particular software package. But the perspective ends up being that ESRI provides both the tools and teaching materials in a consistent manner. If the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

2009-10-04 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Eric Wolf wrote: I surely don't need another project right now, but I've been trolling to find a co-author to create a cookbook-style Python geoprocessing book that uses GDAL/OGR and other FOSS libraries. This would be considered a text for a fairly advanced GIS course. Eric, You may want to

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

2009-10-04 Thread Rafal Wawer
Hi Eric, Maybe we should focus on a GIS on a stick product rather than a LiveDVD? We (CASCADOSS project) have been using our own distro for the training. You will find it here: http://cascadoss.competterra.com/cascadoss.php?livedvd_en I am not entirely sure, but I think Compet-Terra developed a

Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

2009-10-04 Thread Bruce Bannerman
Peter, You make a very good point as to the value of marketing. Thinking back to the early '90s when I was a MicroStation / Intergraph / GDS user, the factor that attracted me across to using ESRI software at the time was their marketing approach. Where Bentley and Intergraph were focusing on

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

2009-10-04 Thread Chris Puttick
- Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com wrote: snip Maybe we should focus on a GIS on a stick product rather than a LiveDVD? Jo Cook wrote you a Windows one of those already :) - so you could even give to the students for ongoing use of the tools and data. And of course that is about as