Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread Hans Gregers Hedegaard Petersen
Dear Arnulf, all, > if we want to compete then we have to play the game. Party is great but the > money is not in the party and fun part. The money sits in large corps and > governments. Folks coming from there are not expected to party or hang out > and have fun. They are expected to see the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

2017-10-17 Thread Jody Garnett
That is some bold thinking Dirk, I like it. I would want to be careful to establish the relationship appropriately; and be pretty much guided by the local chapters on this one. One advantage to being a local chapter can be as a separate legal entity. I guess for local chapters that want to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread Ravi Kumar
"I would like to see charter member renamed to "voting member" (since charter member means those who signed the original charter forming our organization)" That way things become Clear.. But I doubt if any charter member is not aware of it, that their responsibility is (simply) to Vote. And that

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017: roles and positions

2017-10-17 Thread Jody Garnett
> > One of the questions asked to our nominees to write down in their > Manifesto is "which role you wish to fulfil in the Board". > > Apparently a though question, since not answered by some candidates. > I think that if we named a position it would be premature, the board when formed would

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread Jody Garnett
Good question, I think we already realize empowering members by not reserving activities or responsibilities in our organization. From a pragmatic standpoint there are more members and with to be inclusive and grow our organization. Having a low barrier to taking part is a good thing. Aside:I

[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoTools 18.0 Released

2017-10-17 Thread Ian Turton
The GeoTools team is happy to announce the release of the new stable version of the GeoTools library. See the blog post for further details. This new release contains a new WMTS datastore and many fixes and improvements to the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
Hi Ravi, To use a popular Nobel prise winning word "nudging": I think that the main task of the board (aside to take as a team the legal responsability for the OSGeo foundation) is to *listen* to the (NNN) members and 'nudge' them carefully so they will the best of themselves for the community.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread Tom Chadwin
Hello all A significant group who have possibly not yet chimed in on this issue are the commercial organizations who sell GFOSS support and development. I presume that FOSS4G is one of their best opportunities to get new business. I know there have been recent discussions/disagreements on this

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Yin and Yang of OSGeo

2017-10-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
Cameron, Thank you for your questions, 1. How do you feel about empowering OSGeo committees, avoiding over-riding committee decisions in all but exceptional circumstances. (Board members can join committees)? I think I answered this question in another thread. I repeat (sorry for cross thread

[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.12.0 released

2017-10-17 Thread Ian Turton
The GeoServer team are happy to announce the release of GeoServer 2.12.0 as the new stable release based on GeoTools 18.0. This release sees the results of the 2017 Code Sprint upgrade of the REST API from Restlet to Spring MVC. It also now provides the ability to cascade WMST servers in the same

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Tom Chadwin wrote: > Hello all > > A significant group who have possibly not yet chimed in on this issue are the > commercial organizations who sell GFOSS support and development. I presume > that FOSS4G is one of their best

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
Hans, I fully agree, A great asset for a board member (but this is true for every OSGeo member) is the ability to think from the perspective of 'the other'. If you are a public servant, think as a small business owner or a scientific researcher. If you are employed by a university, think as if

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections Debate

2017-10-17 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Vicky, very fun, I'm happy to talk with the other great candidates on IRC! See you all soon. -jeff On 2017-10-16 8:01 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote: Hello all Announcing the 2017 Board Elections Debate on IRC. Time: 14:00 UTC Place: IRC channel #osgeo For those without IRC client you can

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

2017-10-17 Thread Andy Anderson
Hi, Dirk, I provided this reference that I think explains it very well: http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation#ranked_choice_voting_pr I didn’t want to sidetrack the more general discussion here, but I’ll give a schematic overview. 1) The basic idea is that voters rank some or

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

2017-10-17 Thread Andy Anderson
RCV = Ranked Choice Voting, sometimes called Instant-Runoff Voting (though that describes the vote-counting process rather than the voting itself). In the past it has also been known as Preferential Voting. PR = Proportional Representation, a process for multi-seat elections that helps

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

2017-10-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
OK, this makes it a bit more clear. So PR is preferential? RCV? Dirk :-) On 17-10-17 16:03, Jody Garnett wrote: > I would be willing to give it a shot. > > Dirk here is a comic > >  from >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

2017-10-17 Thread Jeff McKenna
Interesting Andy, I can see how that RCV/PR/ranking could help better representation from our local chapters. I think after the dust settles on this election, we should all then take a deep breath and sit back and analyze this 2017 election process, and together (as Charter members) make a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections Debate

2017-10-17 Thread Vicky Vergara
Hello all; Reminder about the "Debate" (is about to start ) Vicky On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote: > Hi Vicky, very fun, I'm happy to talk with the other great candidates on > IRC! See you all soon. -jeff > > > > On 2017-10-16 8:01 PM,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017: roles and positions

2017-10-17 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Gert-Jan, I had tried to answer this question in my original manifesto, the original words are still there in that section you referenced, where I volunteer to help with the leadership of OSGeo and also stress the importance of the 'executive Board' (President, Vice Presidents) to help

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

2017-10-17 Thread Andy Anderson
So I could make this a fourth question. What are the candidates perspectives on using RCV/PR to increase representation from The Rest of the World? — Andy On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:23 PM, Andy Anderson > wrote: We should consider using

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

2017-10-17 Thread Jody Garnett
I would be willing to give it a shot. Dirk here is a comic from australia so it is blunt. It allows voters a way out of choosing between their heart and their head. -- Jody Garnett On 17 October

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections Debate

2017-10-17 Thread Vicky Vergara
To all: If you want to read the debate You can read from here: https://view.matrix.org/room/!fJlCtKdpMHgXoEvxTO:matrix.org/?anchor=$15082535792289779ImXcE:matrix.org=300 Vicky On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Vicky Vergara wrote: > Hello all; > Reminder about the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections Debate

2017-10-17 Thread Jeff McKenna
Another link to the logs: http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2017-10-17.log Thank you Vicky for organizing, and our moderators Greg, Anne, and Norman. It was wonderful to talk directly with all of the candidates and community members. Finally, good luck to all candidates :) -jeff

[OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017: roles and positions

2017-10-17 Thread Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl
Hi all, One of the questions asked to our nominees to write down in their Manifesto is "which role you wish to fulfil in the Board". Apparently a though question, since not answered by some candidates. Only Vicky hinted towards wanting to be an officer (Chair of the Board, President,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections Debate

2017-10-17 Thread María Arias de Reyna
Indeed a last minute idea, we could at least had a quick doodle about the time. I will try to be there, but can't be sure. On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Vicky Vergara wrote: > Hello all > > Announcing the 2017 Board Elections Debate on IRC. > > Time: 14:00 UTC > Place:

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Elections 2017: roles and positions

2017-10-17 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl wrote: > Hi all, > > > > One of the questions asked to our nominees to write down in their Manifesto > is "which role you wish to fulfil in the Board". > > Apparently a though question, since not

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GeoAmbassador – Sven Schade

2017-10-17 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
If Maria is the queen of GIS then Sven is its princely king. He has quietly and with deep conviction, and consistent action, been a fantastic Atlas helping to keep the GIS world in balance. We are very lucky to have his vision and his tremendous enterprise so beautifully applied. As Maria says

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-17 Thread Ravi Kumar
GFOSS.. Commercial Support.. +1 for this. But.. now that this has come to a boil.. WHY NOT THE BOARD AND WOULD BE BOARD COME OUT CLEAR ON THIS.. SURE THIS WILL HELP THE CHARTER.. WHOM TO VOTE.. 'Free and Open Source'.. has brought to where we are.. This is a community effort. Is there a solution