Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role

2012-05-11 Thread Markus Neteler
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote:
...
 The board is elected by the charter members to make policy. When the system 
 was set up, it was not the intent that charter members had any role other 
 than to preserve the nature and mission of the foundation by electing 
 appropriate board members.

Things may evolve: A a founding member of OSGeo I was always very interested
to keep the community strongly involved. This implies that with the
years charter members
may obtain a stronger role than just electing the board members.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction

What others do:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#asf-members

... but Jody has just send around some links...

Markus
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RE: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role

2012-05-05 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Venka:

 

Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently 
been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. 

 

(Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself 
included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.)

 

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From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On 
Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing
Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role

 

There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html

and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member)
but not much input after that.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction

I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by 
anyone
on the OSGeo board.
See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html

Venka


On 2012/05/05 21:01, Margherita Di Leo wrote: 

Hi all,
 
I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what
concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the
boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have
more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been
voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow
an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my
presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and
colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc..
Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email
address (or alias).
 
Regards,
madi
 
 
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter
 mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote:
 

Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular
picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal:
 
I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also
have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can
still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone
exclusive.
 
The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be:
 
1. OSGeo Board Member
2. Ex OSGeo Board Member
These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board
members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their
outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community.
 
3. Charter member
Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective
process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo
projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in
many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source.
 
4. Voted position in an OSGeo community
These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo
sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a
member of a project's Project Steering Committee.
 
5. OSGeo community member
These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities,
acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software.
 
Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as
an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile
for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes:
 
* Name
* City and Country of residence
* Phone, Email
* Photo
* OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words)
 
I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for
overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into
place.
 
I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote
on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action.
 
 
On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote:
 

Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto:
 

 
I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public
nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in
the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo.
 

 
I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only
official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a
weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's
consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas:
 
- personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe)
- @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their
primary address
- interviews on the main blog
- a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software
development, management, documentation and what else
 
In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the
wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives.
 
Ciao
steko
 
BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they
become inactive, move

Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role

2012-05-05 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan

Michael,

On 2012/05/05 23:58, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:

Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently 
been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles.

enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board?




(Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself 
included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.)

About (2), why is it not desirable?

Venka




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From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On 
Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing
Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role



There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html

and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member)
but not much input after that.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction

I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by 
anyone
on the OSGeo board.
See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html

Venka





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Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role

2012-05-05 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
I second Michael's sentiments. Use of terms such as distinguished and elite 
in the context of OSGeo community makes me extremely uncomfortable.


On May 5, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:

 Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't 
 apparently been enough 
 interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles.
 enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board?
 
 Both.
 
 (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself 
 included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.)
 About (2), why is it not desirable?
 
 The board is elected by the charter members to make policy. When the system 
 was set up, it was not the intent that charter members had any role other 
 than to preserve the nature and mission of the foundation by electing 
 appropriate board members.
 
 Other than that, many of us did not want to create any sort of special 
 status for members of the community: we wanted to be as open and inclusive as 
 possible. To  that end, we have a public board mailing list where issues can 
 be raised and discussed by all, and the monthly board meetings are also held 
 openly on #irc.
 
 -mpg
 
 
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 From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
 On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan
 Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:58 AM
 To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; 'OSGeo-Board'; 'marketing'
 Subject: Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
 
 Michael,
 
 On 2012/05/05 23:58, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
 Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't 
 apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of
 stronger charter member roles.
 enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board?
 
 
 
 (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself 
 included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.)
 About (2), why is it not desirable?
 
 Venka
 
 
 
 -mpg
 
 
 
 From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
 On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan
 Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM
 Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing
 Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
 
 
 
 There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members
 http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html
 
 and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member)
 but not much input after that.
 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction
 
 I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by 
 anyone
 on the OSGeo board.
 See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html
 
 Venka
 
 
 
 
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