Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapLibre

[Mateusz Loskot]

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 10:50, Luke Seelenbinder
 wrote:
>
> > Does the MapLibre initiative plan to fork the related projects from
> > the mapbox/mapbox-gl-* ecosystem?
>
> We do plan to fork Mapbox GL Native. It's not our initial focus, and we don't 
> have the resources to manage it just yet, but it's definitely in the works.
>
> MapTiler is already working on a fork they plan to release (towards the end 
> of this or early next year), so for the moment, that will be the "official" 
> fork, but if we get community interest, MapTiler has indicated they would be 
> willing to move it to the MapLibre project, if it makes sense. No guarantee 
> it moves to MapLibre yet, but definitely that there will be an active fork 
> going forward.

Luke, thanks for the update, it sounds very good!

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapLibre

[Luke Seelenbinder]

Hi Mateusz,

> Does the MapLibre initiative plan to fork the related projects from
> the mapbox/mapbox-gl-* ecosystem?

We do plan to fork Mapbox GL Native. It's not our initial focus, and we don't 
have the resources to manage it just yet, but it's definitely in the works.

MapTiler is already working on a fork they plan to release (towards the end of 
this or early next year), so for the moment, that will be the "official" fork, 
but if we get community interest, MapTiler has indicated they would be willing 
to move it to the MapLibre project, if it makes sense. No guarantee it moves to 
MapLibre yet, but definitely that there will be an active fork going forward.

Stadia is very interested in maintaining it, as are multiple other participants 
in MapLibre.

> Does the MapLibre initiative plan to fork the related projects from
> the mapbox/mapbox-gl-* ecosystem?

As to the other related projects, we aren't sure yet. We'll fork what 
mapbox-gl-js needs, but I think the plan is to do it on a case-by-case basis 
for now.

Best,
Luke

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> On 16 Dec 2020, at 09:01, Mateusz Loskot  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 22:41, Tom Chadwin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Does the MapLibre initiative plan to fork the related projects from
>>> the mapbox/mapbox-gl-* ecosystem?
>> 
>> As I understand it,  no, only Mapbox GL JS.
> 
> I see.
> 
>> Mapbox Native went proprietary a few months ago.
> 
> I'm late to the party and still making sense of what is the current
> status of the parts of the Mapbox GL ecosystem.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapLibre

[Mateusz Loskot]

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 22:41, Tom Chadwin  wrote:
>
> > Does the MapLibre initiative plan to fork the related projects from
> > the mapbox/mapbox-gl-* ecosystem?
>
> As I understand it,  no, only Mapbox GL JS.

I see.

> Mapbox Native went proprietary a few months ago.

I'm late to the party and still making sense of what is the current
status of the parts of the Mapbox GL ecosystem.

Thanks

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapLibre

[Tom Chadwin]

> Does the MapLibre initiative plan to fork the related projects from
the mapbox/mapbox-gl-* ecosystem?

As I understand it,  no, only Mapbox GL JS. Mapbox Native went proprietary a 
few months ago.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapLibre

[Mateusz Loskot]

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 21:38, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>
> Hello OSGeo,
>
> Some of you may have heard about yesterday's announcement regarding Mapbox GL 
> JS v2 having a license change[1] from BSD into a closed license. Since Mapbox 
> GL JS v1.13 is still Open Source (BSD), several people forked the main 
> repository to continue with the project.


Does the MapLibre initiative plan to fork the related projects from
the mapbox/mapbox-gl-* ecosystem?

It seems the core dependencies are also being re-licensed [1]
It also seems the Mapbox Maven repositories no longer offer all
dependencies required to build the existing open sources of the Mapbox
ecosystem for mobile platforms [2]

[1] 
https://forum.f-droid.org/t/updated-distribution-license-for-mapbox-mobile-maps-sdk/10201
[2] https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-native-android/issues/631

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapLibre

[Angelos Tzotsos]

Hi Jorge and Luke

Thanks for the activity and welcome MapLibre!
OSGeo is always open to new community projects, please see how you can 
apply here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects

Please reach out to the board or the incubation committee if you need 
more information.


Best,
Angelos

On 12/9/20 11:36 PM, Luke Seelenbinder wrote:

Hi List,

Thanks, Jorge.


Today, a few community members met to coordinate those initiatives and agreed to use the 
"MapLibre" name as the Github and NPM namespaces to host the library's future 
development.

I'm one of the people that's been working especially to coordinate a unified 
community response, and as such, I have had cursory discussions regarding this 
with Tom Chadwin, Tom Kralidis, and Angelos Tzotsos; I'm also aware of other 
people who have discussed this with OSGeo via other channels.

I'm happy to answer any additional questions anyone on the list might have, as 
I'm sure any of the other community members would, as well.

 From initial discussions, we would like to see how we can proceed to a 
possible incubation and eventual community project status, but for now we're 
excited to have a clear path forward and are looking to support open source for 
web mapping in the future.

Also, glad to be a member of the list, now!

Best,
Luke

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On 9 Dec 2020, at 21:38, Jorge Sanz  wrote:

Hello OSGeo,

Some of you may have heard about yesterday's announcement regarding Mapbox GL 
JS v2 having a license change[1] from BSD into a closed license. Since Mapbox 
GL JS v1.13 is still Open Source (BSD), several people forked the main 
repository to continue with the project.

Today, a few community members met to coordinate those initiatives and agreed to use the 
"MapLibre" name as the Github and NPM namespaces to host the library's future 
development.

One of the objectives pointed out during the meeting was to contact and start 
establishing a relationship with the OSGeo Foundation so hence this email :-)

I think I can speak in the name of everyone that met today, to thank and 
acknowledge Mapbox for the amazing job done in the library and the Open Source 
world, respecting their decision, and hoping they maintain their commitment to 
the vast number of many other Open Source libraries and components they have 
developed over the years.

You can find more details about MapLibre in this initial coordinating 
document[2]. If you are interested in this effort, please keep an eye on the 
document, feel free to join the communication channels that suit you, and stay 
tuned for a first release of the library under the MapLibre name.

Thanks!

[1] https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/issues/10162 

[2] 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UB8VJ6_vMD9Zxfem7cunwa_G-hXo_ZRY1IeF5iGlh4w/view 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapLibre

[Luke Seelenbinder]

Hi List,

Thanks, Jorge.

> Today, a few community members met to coordinate those initiatives and agreed 
> to use the "MapLibre" name as the Github and NPM namespaces to host the 
> library's future development.

I'm one of the people that's been working especially to coordinate a unified 
community response, and as such, I have had cursory discussions regarding this 
with Tom Chadwin, Tom Kralidis, and Angelos Tzotsos; I'm also aware of other 
people who have discussed this with OSGeo via other channels.

I'm happy to answer any additional questions anyone on the list might have, as 
I'm sure any of the other community members would, as well.

From initial discussions, we would like to see how we can proceed to a possible 
incubation and eventual community project status, but for now we're excited to 
have a clear path forward and are looking to support open source for web 
mapping in the future.

Also, glad to be a member of the list, now!

Best,
Luke

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Stadia Maps | Founder
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> On 9 Dec 2020, at 21:38, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
> 
> Hello OSGeo,
> 
> Some of you may have heard about yesterday's announcement regarding Mapbox GL 
> JS v2 having a license change[1] from BSD into a closed license. Since Mapbox 
> GL JS v1.13 is still Open Source (BSD), several people forked the main 
> repository to continue with the project. 
> 
> Today, a few community members met to coordinate those initiatives and agreed 
> to use the "MapLibre" name as the Github and NPM namespaces to host the 
> library's future development.
> 
> One of the objectives pointed out during the meeting was to contact and start 
> establishing a relationship with the OSGeo Foundation so hence this email :-)
> 
> I think I can speak in the name of everyone that met today, to thank and 
> acknowledge Mapbox for the amazing job done in the library and the Open 
> Source world, respecting their decision, and hoping they maintain their 
> commitment to the vast number of many other Open Source libraries and 
> components they have developed over the years.
> 
> You can find more details about MapLibre in this initial coordinating 
> document[2]. If you are interested in this effort, please keep an eye on the 
> document, feel free to join the communication channels that suit you, and 
> stay tuned for a first release of the library under the MapLibre name.
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> [1] https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-js/issues/10162 
> 
> [2] 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UB8VJ6_vMD9Zxfem7cunwa_G-hXo_ZRY1IeF5iGlh4w/view
>  
> --
>  
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