Re: IS EVERYONE HERE FAST ASLEEP? was: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OKF / OSGeo response to the consultation on opening Ordnance Survey data
+1 from me, However, I caution that we should not use this email list to call for votes. We have close to 1000 people on this list, and if we have 100 people respond to a proposal every week or two, we will make this list unusable as a communication medium. If voting is required, I suggest setting up a wiki or using one of the drupal voting options that we have on the osgeo site or similar. Schuyler Erle wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:26 +0100, Jo Walsh wrote: dear a...@osgeo, In sending this mail I'm following the protocol for letters of support coming from OSGeo: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Protocol_for_requesting_letter_of_support As you may have heard, there's a public consultation running in the UK on options for open licensing national mapping data maintained by Ordnance Survey. Is everyone on this mailing list dead? Or asleep? How is it that no one has responded to this inquiry yet? Have we not, at least some of us, been agitating for the proposed outcome for years? Does this issue not, at least in principle, affect us all? Have you all forgotten that your software is awesome, but it's useless -- without data? I want to go on record as being 100% in favor of OSGeo providing a letter of support for this response to the OSGB consultation. The principle of Open Public Data is completely in harmony with the ideals and objectives of the OSGeo Foundation. This is a chance for us to see a change for the better in Ordnance Survey policy, a change that will serve as a signal example to other NMAs around the world. *Please* simply respond to the previous email with at least a +1 or a single word of support, if you'd like to see the OSGeo Board respond to this request in the affirmative. *Please*, for the love of God, don't let us as a community deserve to be ashamed of ourselves for our own ungenerous apathy. According to the Board's protocol for such things, you only have a few hours, so pipe up now, while you have the chance. SDE ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: IS EVERYONE HERE FAST ASLEEP? was: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OKF / OSGeo response to the consultation on opening Ordnance Survey data
Schuyler Erle wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:26 +0100, Jo Walsh wrote: dear a...@osgeo, In sending this mail I'm following the protocol for letters of support coming from OSGeo: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Protocol_for_requesting_letter_of_support As you may have heard, there's a public consultation running in the UK on options for open licensing national mapping data maintained by Ordnance Survey. Is everyone on this mailing list dead? Or asleep? How is it that no one has responded to this inquiry yet? Have we not, at least some of us, been agitating for the proposed outcome for years? Does this issue not, at least in principle, affect us all? Have you all forgotten that your software is awesome, but it's useless -- without data? I want to go on record as being 100% in favor of OSGeo providing a letter of support for this response to the OSGB consultation. The principle of Open Public Data is completely in harmony with the ideals and objectives of the OSGeo Foundation. This is a chance for us to see a change for the better in Ordnance Survey policy, a change that will serve as a signal example to other NMAs around the world. *Please* simply respond to the previous email with at least a +1 or a single word of support, if you'd like to see the OSGeo Board respond to this request in the affirmative. *Please*, for the love of God, don't let us as a community deserve to be ashamed of ourselves for our own ungenerous apathy. According to the Board's protocol for such things, you only have a few hours, so pipe up now, while you have the chance. Schuyler, I've reviewed the protocol for a letter of support, and I don't see any requirement for actual comment or +1's on the discuss list. Showing support is most important if anyone has spoken against a proposal or if it is likely the board will be inclined to do nothing lacking community support. In this case I think Jo's position paper is not controversial and the consultation with the community via discuss is being taken as pro-forma. I will state, for the record, that I strongly support the proposed submission and will support it at the board level. I forsee no problems with the board as a whole. The response is completely in keeping with OSGeo's position on the importance of there being a body of quality free geodata. The most obvious and critical source of such data is national mapping agencies which are already mandated to prepare and maintain base mapping layers. All they need to do is fine tune their licensing and financing models to unleash lots of innovation. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: IS EVERYONE HERE FAST ASLEEP? was: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OKF / OSGeo response to the consultation on opening Ordnance Survey data
Sorry Jo; Schuyler, personally I hadn't realised a response would be necessary. I'd assumed it would be a given that OSGeo would be supporting this... So +1 to what Jo said. And come to think of it, +1 to what Schuyler said too! Chris - Schuyler Erle schuy...@nocat.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:26 +0100, Jo Walsh wrote: dear a...@osgeo, In sending this mail I'm following the protocol for letters of support coming from OSGeo: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Protocol_for_requesting_letter_of_support As you may have heard, there's a public consultation running in the UK on options for open licensing national mapping data maintained by Ordnance Survey. Is everyone on this mailing list dead? Or asleep? How is it that no one has responded to this inquiry yet? Have we not, at least some of us, been agitating for the proposed outcome for years? Does this issue not, at least in principle, affect us all? Have you all forgotten that your software is awesome, but it's useless -- without data? I want to go on record as being 100% in favor of OSGeo providing a letter of support for this response to the OSGB consultation. The principle of Open Public Data is completely in harmony with the ideals and objectives of the OSGeo Foundation. This is a chance for us to see a change for the better in Ordnance Survey policy, a change that will serve as a signal example to other NMAs around the world. *Please* simply respond to the previous email with at least a +1 or a single word of support, if you'd like to see the OSGeo Board respond to this request in the affirmative. *Please*, for the love of God, don't let us as a community deserve to be ashamed of ourselves for our own ungenerous apathy. According to the Board's protocol for such things, you only have a few hours, so pipe up now, while you have the chance. SDE ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Files attached to this email may be in ISO 26300 format (OASIS Open Document Format). If you have difficulty opening them, please visit http://iso26300.info for more information. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: IS EVERYONE HERE FAST ASLEEP? was: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OKF / OSGeo response to the consultation on opening Ordnance Survey data
Ditto - it seemed sort of so obvious that I assumed Our Board would just Do the Right Thing. +2 .mpg On Feb 25, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Chris Puttick chris.putt...@thehumanjourney.net wrote: Sorry Jo; Schuyler, personally I hadn't realised a response would be necessary. I'd assumed it would be a given that OSGeo would be supporting this... So +1 to what Jo said. And come to think of it, +1 to what Schuyler said too! Chris - Schuyler Erle schuy...@nocat.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 16:26 +0100, Jo Walsh wrote: dear a...@osgeo, In sending this mail I'm following the protocol for letters of support coming from OSGeo: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Protocol_for_requesting_letter_of_support As you may have heard, there's a public consultation running in the UK on options for open licensing national mapping data maintained by Ordnance Survey. Is everyone on this mailing list dead? Or asleep? How is it that no one has responded to this inquiry yet? Have we not, at least some of us, been agitating for the proposed outcome for years? Does this issue not, at least in principle, affect us all? Have you all forgotten that your software is awesome, but it's useless -- without data? I want to go on record as being 100% in favor of OSGeo providing a letter of support for this response to the OSGB consultation. The principle of Open Public Data is completely in harmony with the ideals and objectives of the OSGeo Foundation. This is a chance for us to see a change for the better in Ordnance Survey policy, a change that will serve as a signal example to other NMAs around the world. *Please* simply respond to the previous email with at least a +1 or a single word of support, if you'd like to see the OSGeo Board respond to this request in the affirmative. *Please*, for the love of God, don't let us as a community deserve to be ashamed of ourselves for our own ungenerous apathy. According to the Board's protocol for such things, you only have a few hours, so pipe up now, while you have the chance. SDE ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Files attached to this email may be in ISO 26300 format (OASIS Open Document Format). If you have difficulty opening them, please visit http://iso26300.info for more information. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: IS EVERYONE HERE FAST ASLEEP? was: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OKF / OSGeo response to the consultation on opening Ordnance Survey data
+1 for positive response to Ordinance Survey as requested by Jo. Awake, Alive and kicking in Japan. Venka On 2010/02/25 15:40, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Ditto - it seemed sort of so obvious that I assumed Our Board would just Do the Right Thing. +2 .mpg On Feb 25, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Chris Puttickchris.putt...@thehumanjourney.net wrote: Sorry Jo; Schuyler, personally I hadn't realised a response would be necessary. I'd assumed it would be a given that OSGeo would be supporting this... So +1 to what Jo said. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: IS EVERYONE HERE FAST ASLEEP? was: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OKF / OSGeo response to the consultation on opening Ordnance Survey data
I completely support the OSGeo/OKFN response. Good job Jo. This is a chance for us to see a change for the better in Ordnance Survey policy, a change that will serve as a signal example to other NMAs around the world. Thanks Schuyler for your comments, I really like this one. Cheers -- Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jorge_Sanz ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
