[slim] Re: Problem with Browser plugin interface

their folders. How did you install the 6.1 nightly? rpm, tar, zip? -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss

[slim] Re: Slim Web Going Back

What about your browser's back button? -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list

[slim] Re: UDP port number - 3483 or 3484?

it manually. And SliMP3 I have not even tested, yet... -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing

Re: [slim] Can we please have a sort by Album Artist option

MrSinatra - please calm down or we'll have to close this thread. Thanks. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] SQueezecenter won't open on port 9000

/attachment.php?attachmentid=4838| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

Nonreality;300376 Wrote: Tell me why you are using the software when you don't have a squeezebox. Also tell me you haven't misrepresented old data to influence people away from the Squeezebox. No, please don't. -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] How do you use your Squeezebox Controller?

on my stereo. It then lies around the living room until battery empty or end of the day. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Squeeze Center Starting....Unable To Write To:

of reg query HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Common AppData run in a DOS Window (Darn... don't know why this forum insists in having a space in the above Explorer - there's none! Please remove it...) Thanks a lot! -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] Squeeze Center Starting....Unable To Write To:

). Thanks! -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Squeeze Center Starting....Unable To Write To:

message. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com

[slim] Re: Why is the SB case so underwhwelming designwise?

that small and quiet media PC in the living room. Or the long asked for case mod containing an SB together with a small computer, the front only exposing the display and a large knop... -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using

[slim] Re: is the urlwitzer project still alive?

Eric Lyons Wrote: Anything specific I can answer? There are some new releases, though I haven't put them up for downloading. Just the same question: is it still alive? The subject auf an automatically ripping linux distro came up again in the plugins forum... Regards, -- mherger

[slim] Re: Music Info Screensaver

load setting in Server Settings/Plugins? -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss

[slim] Re: SV: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2

support is for SB2 only. SB1 will play perfectly well with slimserver 6.2, but will not support WMA native. BTW: is the mailing list gateway broken? I don't get any mails from the list :-( -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer

[slim] Re: A Silly Poll

70 - I'm born in 1970 :-) -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) mherger's

[slim] Re: Is there an easy way to run SlimServer on a Networked Hard Drive (with pc off) ?

Don't forget Synology (at least over here in Europe). I've even heard rumors about them working on slimserver integration... -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http

[slim] Re: Softsqueeze 2.5

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[slim] Re: 6.3.0: Many Duplicate Albums Listed (as well as duped New Music, Album Art, etc)

of a set) tags and still see discs of a single separated. The second album displays the track numbers as 2-1, 2-2 (album - track number) while the first won't display the album number. -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer

Re: [slim] Players Missing From Synchronize Menu

to have access to the other players? (just drag the bottom right corner down a big) -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Album Review plugin?

| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6148| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim

Re: [slim] Use Duet Controller as remote for your amp.

| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http

[slim] Re: SlimServer shuts of on rescanning

:-)). Open a command window and run slim.exe -d_scan. This should output a lot of information to the screen. What are the last lines, before it crashes? -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation

[slim] Re: SlimServer shuts of on rescanning

it is crashing. -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) mherger's Profile: http

[slim] Re: Write down your slim box NOT NAS

: IMGP3547.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1577| +---+ -- mherger Michael --- Help translate

[slim] Re: My SB 2 won't fast forward or rewind.

As Radish said... radish Wrote: As kdf said... kdf Wrote: What version of the server are you using? Seriously: answering a few questions and doing some tests as adviced would get us further than statements about why things are so bad nowadays. -- mherger Michael

[slim] Re: Scroll Custom Text?

JamesAnderson;134048 Wrote: I'm trying to do exactly the same thing as the OP, but the attachment posted by MHerger doesn't seem to exist anymore. Is it http://www.herger.net/_data/FileViewer.pm you're looking for? No instructions or information other than in this thread (and the other thread

[slim] Re: Biography as screensaver?

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[slim] Re: Biography as screensaver?

| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1652| +---+ -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http

[slim] Re: [Announce] MusicInfoSCR 2.99

://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=141136#post141136 -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] 7.0.1 does not scan library at all

case of SC failing to scan a file/folder, please file a bug with as much detail as you can get: Version numbers, operating system, music path configuration, scanner.log with all scan.* debugging enabled etc. Thanks! Michael -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] New hardware without the Logitech logo ?

I'm closing this thread due to continued personal attacks. I'm sorry for this, but enough is enough. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Slimserver is woeful on Windows

. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's

Re: [slim] Multiple servers - changing player to new server FROM the server?

| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Debugging

://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2629| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview

Re: [slim] Time/Date Format in 6.5.2

for services as well. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Why aren't there more skins?

://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2936| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim

Re: [slim] How do you use your Squeezebox/Transporter?

Pandora trial. But that's no longer an option for us. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Problem after installing 6.5.3

Please try the latest nightly build (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.5/). We've checked in a fix for a potential crasher. Thanks! Michael -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer

Re: [slim] 6.5.3 with japanese windows 2003 server have trouble

This issue should now be fixed in last night's build (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.5/). Please give it a try and report back if you encounter any problem. Thanks! Michael -- mherger Michael - http

Re: [slim] Opinion: which is the best OS to run SlimServer?

to lacking support in the HTTP interface). -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

[slim] How are you running SlimServer/SqueezeCenter on Windows?

(as a service), or when you log on (in application mode)? When you answer, please tell us whether you're using iTunes and/or a NAS (for storage only). Thanks! -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer

Re: [slim] Mac Leopard Support

release. If you want to run it on OS X 10.5 you'll have to use the latest nightly. This is no problem as it only has very few changes compared to 6.5.4, all of them fixes only. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your

[slim] Re: New Poll: What MULTILPE Squeezebox combination are you running

) wireless, 1xSB2 wired, 1xSB2 wireless -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) mherger's

[slim] Re: Best NAS Network Attached Storage for SqueezeBox 3?

slimserver is available for download: http://infrant.com/gpl.htm -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim

[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?

been made an official option in the latest nightly. -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim

[slim] Re: Newbie problem with installing SlimServer on Linkstation

-- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com

[slim] Re: Is it possible to play Shoutcast/Internet Radio on SB1?

. +---+ |Filename: Plugin.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=962| +---+ -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] Windows Home Server

://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6938| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Windows Home Server

Anything in Windows eventlog? Did you previously configure SC to be run as some particular user? -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Random Question

Hmm... just answering to see the ugliness of this all :-) -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Random Question

I must be a happy user. Didn't see any issue. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's

Re: [slim] No messages on Mailing List

Yeah, I haven't got any mail for 24h. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile

Re: [slim] Windows Home Server

?attachmentid=7360| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] CodeBaby on new Logitech Squeezebox site

| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile

Re: [slim] Upgrade killed my SqueezeBox remote

FWIW: I fixed the underlying bug causing the blank screen, IR doesn't work and player settings don't load issues today. Please update to the next nightly build (7.4.1 rev. 28884 or later) -- mherger Michael - http

Re: [slim] Some odd issues SB3

Both these issues should be fixed in 7.4.1. Please give it a try -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Is third party plugins/applets important for your Squeezebox purchases ?

that other thread). Don't panic! Thanks Erland for bringing the topic up again. It's important to us too. We need your support. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] discuss Digest, Vol 75, Issue 30

Please file a bug on this. There are several open issues we'll have to fix related to the forums. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Is third party plugins/applets important for your Squeezebox purchases ?

://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74049 -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http

Re: [slim] Forum problems?

I changed a few things, removed stale links in the template header etc. Do you still see the slowness when loading the page? -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] ***Attention: lists.slimdevices.com planned downtime

one more test... -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http

Re: [slim] Problem with daylight saving and mailinglist gateway

Might actually have been my mail agent which didn't pick up the time change without a restart. another test was sent _after_ the restart, while the just testing was before. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins

Re: [slim] server / web interface confused between players

Please note that I've backported a fix for this issue from 7.6 to 7.5.1. Please test it. Thanks! (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12173) -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview

Re: [slim] How Do You Control Your Squeezebox(es)?

Bedroom: IR remote Bathroom: Radio buttons ...and iPeng sometimes wherever I am... -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Test - please don't ignore...

Hmm... would this be the very first mail to make it to the forums again?!? Can't believe it, but it's there. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?

el payo;545109 Wrote: On that note (using the web interface on iPad): I wish Logitech would add an apple-touch-icon.png to the server so the icon on the iPad looked a bit more Squeezboxish. What icon are you refering to? -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] SB3 display cycling through brightness settings

Check your remote control: it's not covered by some book continously pressing the brightness button, is it? -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Direct access with remote...

Am 04.06.2010 um 23:37 schrieb sSNICKERSs ssnickerss.4c1x5b1275687...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com : If I use a remote, a Harmony for example, why can't I use the numbers keys to access to the 1 to 6 memories ? Theses keys must be pressed and we can't use a remote to access directly to

Re: [slim] FAO forum admin: Any chance you could install the Tapatalk vBulletin plugin?

adamslim;562891 Wrote: I've lost track of who is a Logitech employee. Are there any left on here? Are there any who care? :) Yes and yes. I tried to get in touch with Matt. But hey, it's vacation time, isn't it? -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

pippin;562992 Wrote: For some reasons most Albums on Napster have no content. Some do. This is with SBS 7.5 Test or production mysb.com? -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography

[slim] New official Logitech Squeezebox support forums

for beginner questions or support oriented questions. -- mherger mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80919

Re: [slim] UPS recommendations for my Vortexbox Appliance

We have only few rules in this forum: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43454 This thread unfortunately must be closed because it's violating more than just one of those simple rules. -- mherger Michael - http

Re: [slim] Spotify is (soon) available for Sonos - What about Squeezebox?

You should probably lobby at spotify's too. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's

Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

bluegaspode;577228 Wrote: I'm asking the Squeezebox-Server for the resized images in 65x65. They are the same as used on the Squeezebox-Touch. Touch uses 64x64... -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins

Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

before they are fully loaded. SP requests chunks of 200 items at a time, but doesn't cache results afaik. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Forum - email gateway working?

test, test, 1, 2 -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http

Re: [slim] Wimp and Local Squeezebox Server

If you are running the latest SBS version 7.5.3, then you should have the WiMP plugin in Settings/Plugins. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Android Controller App

;619747 Wrote: When I then hit the back button I get mixed up screens. Yep, that's something I've seen sometimes, but never been able to reproduce reliably. And yes, I'm using a HTC Desire too... I'm not sure this issue was reported for any other device so far :-(. -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] Android Controller App

pippin;619749 Wrote: Somewhat reminds my of Squash. Please help me with this one :-) pippin;619749 Wrote: Is this Flash or HTML? HTML/JS -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography

Re: [slim] Android Controller App

Bytec;619832 Wrote: I would like to change some UI aspects Namely? Bytec;619832 Wrote: and make it a bit faster Me too... -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Android Controller App

issue tell me what exact server they're using? -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

clickpathes on Android. Thanks for the heads up. I thought I had already done this. Will have to verify whether it's in trunk only and I forgot to merge back to the 1.1.x branch... -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim

Re: [slim] Logfile in 7.6

JJZolx;646358 Wrote: I have a feeling that stuff may have been added to logging by whoever ports SBS to the QNAP. He probably forgot to disable it. Not sure, rather looks like the SugarCube plugin causing endless errors and warnings due to undefined variables. -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] SB3 - no screensaver when off all of a sudden?

squeezeb - what platform are you running SBS on? -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's

Re: [slim] Android Logitech Squeezebox Controller broken!!!

installation information attached to this bug report: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17528 Please give it a try and report back in the bug report. Thanks! -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins

Re: [slim] Android Controller App

chrissy;638105 Wrote: when will 1.1.2 be out? It's quite silent in this thread. We're about to release 1.1.2 to fix the issues HTC users have seen. Please see the following posting for details: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656166#post656166 -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] Whats the point in high price HiFi amps and speakers ?

) -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid

Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released

://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12877| +---+ -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] How to Open up something similar to WinSCP on Android Phones(for my SBT)

TheOctavist;685699 Wrote: Herr Herger, it said connection refused. Is ssh enabled on the Touch? Can you access it using putty or winscp? Are you sure your mobile is on the same network as the Touch? -- mherger Michael - http

[slim] Mediafly End of Life

to onair.mediafly.com and log in to your OnAir account. 2.) In your browser address bar, paste the following link: onair.mediafly.com/opml.aspx 3.) You will be prompted to save or view the xml file, which you can then import into your preferred podcatcher. -- mherger

Re: [slim] Android Controller App

If you're encountering issues detecting your players AND are running Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich) then please give the build attached to the following bug report a try: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17792 -- mherger Michael

Re: [slim] Ran out of decoder data memory

Rhapsody/Napster require 7.5.5 or later due to a change in there encryption. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] New forum

Thanks for the quick feedback. Form follows function: I'll deal with those details once everything's working again :-). -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR

Re: [slim] Planned outage - Wed April 4th

Jim - are notifications still broken for you? Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile:

Re: [slim] Planned outage - Wed April 4th

avr300 wrote: Attachments is not working. Select a jpg or png file, it uploads but ends in saying not a valid image file Then I wonder, what -is- a valid image file ? Could you please try again? +---+ |Filename:

Re: [slim] Why Logitech SB is the best thing since sliced bread!

Mnyb wrote: Universal Ears (UE) was a well respected high end brand for this kind of stuff before Logitech bought them It's Ultimate Ears ;-). They do custom in-ear monitors for pro musicians. Only a few days ago I noticed this picture posted by bassist 'Tony Levin '

Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?

kh6idf wrote: This is a problem for me also. I use the SB3 exclusively to access Pandora, Rhapsody and Internet radio. None of these would be available if mysqueezebox.com went away. Because you are not alone there are no plans to shut down mysb.com.

Re: [slim] mysqueezebox.com service outage - Sept. 24/25

mysqueezebox.com is back up and running. mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96515

Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

Looking good here: [img=http://gyazo.com/04b76ac79320dc11815eb1a6f3793336.png] mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553

Re: [slim] Level of support on the official forum

IMHO the reply in above case is absolutely valid: the user is running 7.5.x, while scanning and artwork handling have changed a lot since. It's not worth investigating an issue based on such a system if it probably has been resolved since.

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