Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
bobkoure wrote: Remember that SBS was written with the intention of being read only, so even if someone noxious breaks in they can listen to your music, or make you listen to some of your own music, make your music stop, stuff like that. Yeah, SBS is in Perl, which can be, well, idiosyncratic is the nicest way I can put it - but it's probably as gone-over for security issues as, say Apache (buffer overruns, etc.) so, as a platform, I'd expect it's fairly secure. If someone manage to get access to the username/password of SBS/LMS, I'm fairly sure there is no problem to hack it and cause a lot more trouble on the computer it's running. This is especially true if you are running third party plugins which in many cases is designed to be used on a protected local network. If SBS/LMS is running as a user with restricted access you are a bit more safe. If the music files are accessed on a read only drive or read only network drive, you are also a bit more safe. That said, the fact that it still might be acceptable for some people is that they are likely not that interesting to hackers and most hackers are likely focusing on other security holes than SBS/LMS. Personally, I would never expose SBS/LMS to the public without protecting it with VPN, SSH or at least some kind of basic IP address filtering in the router making sure it can only be accessed from certain IP address ranges, but that's just me. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
pippin wrote: username/password are sent as clear text so you don't have to be a hacking genius to get them is you can get in the middle of a request. And if you have those, you have access to LMS. Not the whole system if Perl's security works but still you can fudge around LMS quite a bit. A Simple question would ask how the block security settings are implemented. bfl banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
I have no problem with SSH (been doing networking for 30+ years) but I basically don't see the point in bothering with it for streaming music. Remember that SBS was written with the intention of being read only, so even if someone noxious breaks in they can listen to your music, or make you listen to some of your own music, make your music stop, stuff like that. Yeah, SBS is in Perl, which can be, well, idiosyncratic is the nicest way I can put it - but it's probably as gone-over for security issues as, say Apache (buffer overruns, etc.) so, as a platform, I'd expect it's fairly secure. No, it's not 'secure' secure (redbook or whatever they're using these days for a standard), but you're also not the government, or a corporation, so, at most, you're dealing with casual crackers, who, IMO are unlikely to be interested because there are much more profitable targets around (see above about how a break in lets you mess with what someone's listening to, or listen a bit yourself). SSH can be expensive, in terms of computing power required to encrypt a stream. Yeah, I run commercial firewalls with separate encryption processors, but the whole notion of encrypting a music stream just strikes me as wrong. Yes, you can setup an unencrypted SSH (or VPN) stream, and yes, this would be a more appropriate way, and does seem to offer some benefit (2 way cert verification) but it becomes a pain if you're trying to run the client end on a number of boxes. Anybody else got thoughts about this? Am I missing something basic? Won't be the first time... bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
username/password are sent as clear text so you don't have to be a hacking genius to get them is you can get in the middle of a request. And if you have those, you have access to LMS. Not the whole system if Perl's security works but still you can fudge around LMS quite a bit. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
pippin wrote: If you use SSH you'd have to set up a tunnel, don't know how to make SqueezePlay use that. I would use a VPN or plain port forwarding. Regarding port forwarding, here's another guide, I've written it for iPeng but it applies to SqueezePlay, too. The one thing why in SqueezePlay's case it's especially important to use a VPN is that SqueezePlay (like the SBs) can't use dyndns, it can only use IP addresses (Settings-Advanced-Networking-Remote Libraries). http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2011/02/11/coolios-guide-to-remote-playback/ Hi - I just added the streamng service to iPeng. I've read your guide, and I have several questions before I start setting up my music server for remote access (which I would prefer over Audiogalaxy). I will be using a VPN. I have a Linksys router (which supports VPN) and know how to access it's settings. First - my regular music server is on an Windows XP machine which offers PTPP. The iPhone settings have that as an option as well. Will that work with iPeng? Second - by default my Linksys router is set to DHCP. If I'm using VPN, do I need to change that to Static IP in the internet setup section ? If I do so, I then see an address beginning with something other than 192.168 as my Internet IP Address Third - do I also need a static IP address for my VPN Server? Do I achieve that by turning off DHCP in my network address server settings on my router or can I set it for a particular machine. (Couldn't find a way to do that.) Do I need to be concerned with port forwarding? Finally - Setting up VPN on the iPhone do I enter the external IP Address of the Router as the server? Sorry for all these questions, but I want to know what I'm getting into before I start. john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Setting up a tunnel in SSH is not that hard. This is the way I usually connect to LMS from outside my home network. For me it is easier than doing VPN but you need something running ssh server, which seems you already have. If you are using Putty ssh client there is an option under Connection - SSH - Tunnels. You add a tunnel such that a local port points to your LMS server at home. You need port 3483 for something like squeezeslave or squeezeplay to talk to the LMS server. If you want to use the web interface, set up a tunnel for port 9002 (or 9000, depending on your LMS setup) also. Then you tell squeezeslave to user your local host ip (127.0.0.1). If you using command line ssh, there should be command line options to set up the tunnels when you connect. try ssh -? desjarm1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6956 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
@john I answered in the iPeng thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?51929-iPeng-support-threadp=713210viewfull=1#post713210 pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
I've been running AG for 2+ years with no problems - security or otherwise. It runs 24/7 on my mac mini and plays nice with with Mac firewall. The iphone app has also worked flawlessly. Both the web and mobile apps handle album art better than LMS. ismarketing's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Was just going through this about to suggest Audio Galaxy, when i saw someone else already has. Flawless, got a bunch of friends/family happily accessing my tunes as well. Just simple! :) fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Checked out the website - sounds great, but the idea of an external server accessing my computer makes me nervous. Or am I paranoid? john greenwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
SoftSqueeze should work for you if you can already remotely connect via SSH. All you need to do is tunnel two TCP ports 3483 and 9000, which SoftSqueeze handles. Make sure you have the latest version of SoftSqueeze. Under preferences, put your server hostname as localhost. Under networking, hostname should again be localhost. HTTP port 9000 and SlimiProto Port 3483. Under SSH, click on the use SSH tunnel checkbox, enter your SSH server IP address or dynds name if you have one, SSH port 22, your SSH login name and password from your remote machine. Nikhil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Try Audiogalaxy.com. It's free, sets up with one click, and gives you full access to your library from a mobile or desktop. If you already have a machine running 24/7 for LMS, this bit of software is a lot like magic for remote access. Good luck ismarketing's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
+1 for AudioGalaxy :-) TheBear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
lrossouw wrote: Yes it can. A good start is to go here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Enjoying_your_music_from_another_place Thanks for the refer. The most important data I have not updated is that cable modems are dumb as dirt. I have since changed to Charter cable. The only good part is that the speed is much better. I would love to change the wiki page but I'm not sure about the account name and pw. I've been banned for life banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Hi, its pretty easy. Open SSH in your firewall and make it accessable from the internet (Like PAT). Download softsqueeze (java app). You can configure to tunnel it via ssh to your LMS. With this solution I hear all my music at work.:-) Mr. Floppy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29772 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Yes it can. A good start is to go here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Enjoying_your_music_from_another_place lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Mr. Floppy wrote: Hi, its pretty easy. Open SSH in your firewall and make it accessable from the internet (Like PAT). Download softsqueeze (java app). You can configure to tunnel it via ssh to your LMS. With this solution I hear all my music at work.:-) So add the SSH port forwarding service on my Virgin Media superhub. Then add a dyndns type client and point softsqueeze at what address exactly? dweezil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11732 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
UPDATE: I've added the SSH port forwarding service on my Virgin Media superhub to point to my local LMS machine. Then I've added a dyndns host to so that my WAN address is visible and have a dyndns client running on the LMS machine. I have enabled SSH by enabling Remote Login on the LMS (by the way it's running Snow Leopard). I've managed to via SSH login via a remote client using putty but the SoftSqueeze refuses to connect. Any ideas? dweezil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11732 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
If you use SSH you'd have to set up a tunnel, don't know how to make SqueezePlay use that. I would use a VPN or plain port forwarding. Regarding port forwarding, here's another guide, I've written it for iPeng but it applies to SqueezePlay, too. The one thing why in SqueezePlay's case it's especially important to use a VPN is that SqueezePlay (like the SBs) can't use dyndns, it can only use IP addresses (Settings-Advanced-Networking-Remote Libraries). http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2011/02/11/coolios-guide-to-remote-playback/ pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
OH! So now I have to try and setup a VPN connection to my mac?! Yikes, I'm going round in circles. What's the easiest way to get this to work at all? Thanks a million! dweezil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11732 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
dweezil wrote: So now I have to try and setup a VPN connection to my mac?! Not necessarily. See the links in post #3 and post #6. Neither require a VPN at all, although the non-VPN approach is less secure. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
Well, you can also try to get the tunnel to work which would then expose the stream/server under localhost on a different port but that would require you to tunnel two ports (3483 and 9000) and 3483 needs to end up on 3483 again. The easiest way to set up a VPN usually is on the router itself. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
http://www.neorouter.com/downloads.html bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
bernt wrote: http://www.neorouter.com/downloads.html So run this on the LMS side and the client side to setup a VPN. Then I can use SoftSqueeze to connect via the VPN? dweezil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11732 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?
I think it's going to be a LOAD easier just to open 9000 and use the less secure method. I don't seem to be able to find a simple step by step guide explaining exactly how to do it it for mac. Ive looked at the links and I'm just more confused. I hoped someone would have done this with a mac and knew the steps to do it. But thanks dweezil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11732 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
