Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
dunk wrote: > waveinput takes a physical analog input connection on a sound card as a > continuous feed into squeezebox server, and streams it to squeezeboxes > > you already have a digial stream in your server card, so would be > outputting it via a line output of your sound card then recapturing it > and redigitizing it in the same server via an analog sound card line-in > to be streamed digitally. > > it can be done on windows (multiple wavinputs dont work on linux > usually) but the whole digital-analog-analog-digital is a wasteful > route > you dont actually use multiple instances of wavinput, just a single > instance, but if your windows computer has multiple audio inputs each > with a line-in, they appear in squeezebox as wavin:0 wavin:1 wavin:2 etc Just for clairifcation as OP has come to a decision. Waveinput inputs do NOT have to be "physical" - they can be virtual or networked (e.g. useing pulseaudio) - non physical input are usually more complicated to use. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
waveinput takes a physical analog input connection on a sound card as a continuous feed into squeezebox server, and streams it to squeezeboxes you already have a digial stream in your server card, so would be outputting it via a line output of your sound card then recapturing it and redigitizing it in the same server via an analog sound card line-in to be streamed digitally. it can be done on windows (multiple wavinputs dont work on linux usually) but the whole digital-analog-analog-digital is a wasteful route you dont actually use multiple instances of wavinput, just a single instance, but if your windows computer has multiple audio inputs each with a line-in, they appear in squeezebox as wavin:0 wavin:1 wavin:2 etc dunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
There are all sorts of AV sender & receiver devices on the market that use RF Viz a cheapo pair https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bestland-PAT-650-Wireless-Transmitter-Receivers/dp/B074H9SM9H/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8=1516275337=8-4=av+sender OK you don't want video but a couple of these will still do exactly what you want won't they ? I understand the requirement to be to take an Audio source (switched from your existing Multi Room set up) and send it to a Remote location in this case via RF. There is no control element to worry about except On & Off. PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS) *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
You don't even need Airplay. Start by choosing the OS of the machine on the sending end (near that multizone amp), and look for ways to stream live audio from that platform. The available methods will restrict (more or less) your choice of hardware for the endpoints. The possibilities are endless indeed: - networked audio device managers: PulseAudio, Jack, ... - network transport tools + local sender/local receiver : ssh, socat plus something else, ... - (live) streaming applications: vlc, shoutcast, icecast ... Squeezeboxes don't do Airplay natively. There is an LMS plugin for that, too, but I think that is besides the point. 3 SB 3 Libratone Loop, Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
And even more typical, when it rains, it pours: https://lifehacker.com/5978594/turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-an-airplay-receiver-for-streaming-music-in-your-living-room Man... That is so dumb finding stuff like that the day after a buy! Mastiff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
Typical... I think I just found a better solution, the day after byuing a used Sqeezebox! I was tipped about Airport Express as a receiver and TuneBlade as an AirPlay sender. I am familiar with TuneBlade, I just didn't know about the Airport Express (being a certified iHater...). Can the Squeezebox receive AirPlay streams? If it can I'd rather have that then Airport Express, then I can still say that no device from crApple is defacing my system! ;) Mastiff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
Because a home automation colleague here in Norway who's been using these boxes for years and years thought it would be the easiest and most cost effective way of doing it. ;) I asked in a home automation forum here, and I have asked in several other audio forums before, and nobody has ever been able to tell me a system that can do exactly what I need. All other things that can output analogue audio can only output their own system (Samsung, Philips, Yamaha, Sonos... none of them have a analogue audio input, good enough sound quality and a price that isn't in the pro range, like Bluesound, which costs around £500 for the input node alone and would be around £1700 for a system with two good speakers or 1100 for one with two merely OK speakers). Of course if you know something that can work, please let me know! Then I can use that instead, and just sell the Sqeezebox again, or find something else fun to use it for. Mastiff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
But why squeezeboxes ? If your not interested in LMS and it features ? Sure you can have some other endpiont running on an rpi3 , all Hat dacs out there are not expensive and you get new stuff not >10 year old hardware . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
Actually wifi has a range that's 10 times that of BT, at least regular consumer units, so there's no reason wifi shouldn't work (which I've already said it does - I never said that wifi was blocked!) in the room even if I can't get BT to work reliably. Long speaker cables is, as I said, my regular way of doing this, but there's nothing going through the walls or floor in those rooms, and the ceiling is not practical. As for getting the audio, that was my question, but I'll see when I get a couple of these things running. Mastiff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
You have two issues. Your original question was about multiple instances and I think waveinput will still work but it will depend on the sources allowing the command to get the audio (e.g. aplay). Windows source may be different. Your second problem was how to get a radio signal through 3 walls - if the walls block wifi they will also block Bluetooth. So asI seeit, your choice is 1. have player connecting to speaker using long audio leads. 2. Have player very close to speaker and using homeplug over power supply so that player can be networked on existing wiring. I also live in an old hgouse with brock walls. I use a meshed wifi (Orbi) in conjunction homeplug to deliver networking to awkward rooms. Placing wifi router/slave so that doors and windows are in the signal path or reflected paths - avoiding paths through multiple walls/chimney breasts.. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
I guess my question is to unusual to have any definitive answers. I have bought a used V3 which should arrive either Friday or after the weekend, so I'll go from there, with a test setup. Mastiff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
Does this system partially exisst now ? or is this part of a design exercise ? Do you understand how a Squeezebox actually works and its relationship to LMS? Do you have a LMS ? Are you trying to use Squeezbox player without an LMS ? What are your Squeezebox player e.g. Sb3, SB Classic, RPi3 ?? if power is available in the bathroom. The Squeezbox player (e.g. rpi3) could be located very close to the speakers in bathroom with network connection to LMS server over homeplug. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?
I don't really understand the "problem". WaveInput is a last resort and usually not a good solution. If you have 3 different soruces then I suspect you can run 3 different instances of Waveinput but problem may lie with the OS, audio subsystem etc of the source- not LMS or wavinput. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108580 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
